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  • The Doctor
    Coaching Staff
    • Jan 2007
    • 3702

    List Management 2015

    Listed here is our team in positional order and their respective ages as at the start of the 2016 season. In this thread we can discuss what we need to do to improve our list, trade and recruiting ideas & rumours, types of draftees we need etc. The positions are just a guide as some players could easily cross from one group to another.


    Key Forwards

    Boyd 20, Stringer 21, Redpath 25,


    Medium/Small Forwards

    Crameri 27, Dickson 28, McLean 20, Hamilton 20, Dale 19,


    Ruckmen

    Minson 31, Roughead 25, Campbell 24, Goetz,18


    Tall Midfielders

    Bontempelli 20, Macrae 21, Stevens 24, Jong 22, Dunkley, 18, Williams 18,


    Small Midfielders

    Liberatore 23, Wallis 23, Picken 29, Dahlhaus 23, Hunter 21, Hrovat 21, C.Smith 22, Honeychurch 21, Prudden 21, Daniel 19,


    Key Defenders

    Morris 33, Hamling 23, Roberts 22, Z.Cordy 19, Adams, 22, Collins 18


    Medium/Small Defenders

    Murphy 33, Boyd 33, Wood 26, Johannisen 23, Webb 20, Biggs 24, R.Smith 19*, Suckling 27, Lynch 18, Adcock 30
    Last edited by The Doctor; 07-12-2015, 04:08 PM. Reason: updated to include draftees
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  • The Doctor
    Coaching Staff
    • Jan 2007
    • 3702

    #2
    Re: List Management 2015

    2015 AFL Free Agents

    ADELAIDE
    Patrick Dangerfield
    Richard Douglas
    Andy Otten
    Brent Reilly
    Scott Thompson
    Brodie Martin

    BRISBANE LIONS
    Jed Adcock
    Matthew Leuenberger

    CARLTON
    Dennis Armfield
    Andrew Carrazzo
    David Ellard
    Matthew Kreuzer
    Chris Judd

    COLLINGWOOD
    Brent Macaffer

    ESSENDON
    Courtenay Dempsey
    Brent Stanton
    Tom Bellchambers
    Dustin Fletcher
    Tayte Pears
    Jason Winderlich

    FREMANTLE
    Ryan Crowley
    Paul Duffield
    Michael Johnson
    Luke McPharlin
    Matthew Pavlich
    Aaron Sandilands

    GEELONG
    Jimmy Bartel
    Corey Enright
    Tom Hawkins
    James Kelly
    Steve Johnson
    Andrew Mackie
    Dawson Simpson
    Mathew Stokes

    HAWTHORN
    Luke Hodge
    Sam Mitchell
    Matthew Suckling
    Brendan Whitecross

    MELBOURNE
    Colin Garland
    Mark Jamar

    NORTH MELBOURNE
    Michael Firrito
    Nathan Grima
    Brent Harvey
    Scott McMahon
    Drew Petrie
    Robbie Tarrant

    PORT ADELAIDE
    Kane Cornes
    Tom Logan (rookie)

    RICHMOND
    Nathan Foley
    Chris Newman
    Alex Rance

    ST KILDA
    Sean Dempster
    Sam Fisher
    Sam Gilbert
    Jack Steven
    Adam Schneider (rookie)

    SYDNEY SWANS
    Adam Goodes
    Heath Grundy
    Ted Richards

    WEST COAST
    Sam Butler
    Patrick McGinnity
    Scott Selwood
    Beau Waters

    WESTERN BULLDOGS
    Matthew Boyd
    Jarrad Grant
    Dale Morris
    Robert Murphy
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    • Sedat
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2007
      • 11139

      #3
      Re: List Management 2015

      Great thread Doc. Isn't Kelly a key defender?

      I would like some reinforcements in the ruck/key forward area. Kreuzer is an intriguing player - I really rate his work ethic around the ground, and his forward craft is very natural for a ruckman, but the injury history is hard to ignore. If he passes a medical, I'd be very keen to look at someone like him.
      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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      • Happy Days
        Hall of Fame
        • May 2008
        • 10087

        #4
        Re: List Management 2015

        Originally posted by Sedat
        Great thread Doc. Isn't Kelly a key defender?

        I would like some reinforcements in the ruck/key forward area. Kreuzer is an intriguing player - I really rate his work ethic around the ground, and his forward craft is very natural for a ruckman, but the injury history is hard to ignore. If he passes a medical, I'd be very keen to look at someone like him.
        In an ideal world he would be perfect for us wouldn't he?

        Unfortunately if he's fit, he'll cost too much, and if he's affordable he won't be fit.
        - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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        • soupman
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Nov 2007
          • 5091

          #5
          Re: List Management 2015

          Originally posted by Sedat
          Great thread Doc. Isn't Kelly a key defender?
          I think he is slightly undersized for that, plays more as a mid sized defender/mid. His height is deceptive because he's all neck.
          I should leave it alone but you're not right

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          • Mofra
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 14868

            #6
            Re: List Management 2015

            Originally posted by Happy Days
            Unfortunately if he's fit, he'll cost too much, and if he's affordable he won't be fit.
            Bingo.

            I actually think a good forward/ruck is a very hard thing to find, those who are even adequate at it are often maligned. Ty Vickery is out of favour at the moment, with Griffiths in front of him (and I really rate Griffiths). That sort of player would suit our forward structure and he's an adequate ruck.

            I really want a genuine second ruck/forward on our list and one more key defender. I think a tall back option of Roughy, genuine CHB, Talia (who is quick and can take the guys Morris does now) would be an ideal framework to work from.
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            • 1eyedog
              Hall of Fame
              • Mar 2008
              • 13188

              #7
              Re: List Management 2015

              Originally posted by Mofra
              Bingo.

              I actually think a good forward/ruck is a very hard thing to find, those who are even adequate at it are often maligned. Ty Vickery is out of favour at the moment, with Griffiths in front of him (and I really rate Griffiths). That sort of player would suit our forward structure and he's an adequate ruck.

              I really want a genuine second ruck/forward on our list and one more key defender. I think a tall back option of Roughy, genuine CHB, Talia (who is quick and can take the guys Morris does now) would be an ideal framework to work from.
              I hate Vickery but he's big, aggressive, can take a mark and is a wonderful long kick. He is a better realistic CHF option than anyone I can see and with our young stars demanding more and more money we need to consider the best option moving forward. Vickery is ok and would be well priced. He's certainly better than Redpath or Cordy forward and I think we really need to be looking at another key forward.
              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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              • Sedat
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2007
                • 11139

                #8
                Re: List Management 2015

                Originally posted by Happy Days
                Unfortunately if he's fit, he'll cost too much, and if he's affordable he won't be fit.
                Not necessarily. Carlton are stretched with their salary cap - they would be reluctant to offer too much coin to him after the Dale Thomas fiasco.
                "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                • Happy Days
                  Hall of Fame
                  • May 2008
                  • 10087

                  #9
                  Re: List Management 2015

                  Originally posted by Sedat
                  Not necessarily. Carlton are stretched with their salary cap - they would be reluctant to offer too much coin to him after the Dale Thomas fiasco.
                  The gift that keeps on giving; Eddie Betts got absolutely smashed on the weekend and still kicked 4 goals!
                  - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                  • Mofra
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 14868

                    #10
                    Re: List Management 2015

                    Originally posted by Happy Days
                    The gift that keeps on giving; Eddie Betts got absolutely smashed on the weekend and still kicked 4 goals!
                    And he's on $600k to $650k pa to kick largely junktime goals.
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                    • Greystache
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 9775

                      #11
                      Re: List Management 2015

                      Originally posted by Sedat
                      Great thread Doc. Isn't Kelly a key defender?

                      I would like some reinforcements in the ruck/key forward area. Kreuzer is an intriguing player - I really rate his work ethic around the ground, and his forward craft is very natural for a ruckman, but the injury history is hard to ignore. If he passes a medical, I'd be very keen to look at someone like him.
                      If he's 191cm I wouldn't mind selling real estate to the bloke who measured him. In the flesh he looks about the same size as Matthew Boyd.

                      Looking at the OP it's an incredibly young list we have at the moment. While we need to balance the salary cap, age wise we're in prime position to sign a 25 year old FA, not that too many are jumping off the page from that list mind you.
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                      • Mantis
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 15322

                        #12
                        Re: List Management 2015

                        Originally posted by Greystache

                        Looking at the OP it's an incredibly young list we have at the moment. While we need to balance the salary cap, age wise we're in prime position to sign a 25 year old FA, not that too many are jumping off the page from that list mind you.
                        Agree with that, it's a pretty shoddy list.. What about someone like Tarrant or Grima from North? They have quite a few talls and when they are at full strength there will be a couple who won't be in their best 22.

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                        • Greystache
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 9775

                          #13
                          Re: List Management 2015

                          Originally posted by Mantis
                          Agree with that, it's a pretty shoddy list.. What about someone like Tarrant or Grima from North? They have quite a few talls and when they are at full strength there will be a couple who won't be in their best 22.
                          It lacks quality in the 24-27 age bracket no question, but it's pretty well balanced in terms of positional options and of players who should make it vs players who might make it. Another decent cut at years end to players clogging up space and we'll be on pretty good track.

                          Don't fancy Grima, he's undersized and injury prone, but don't mind the idea of Tarrant. He's got big upside and shouldn't cost much given his injury history, unless Norf are just desperate to keep him.
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                          • Axe Man
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 11023

                            #14
                            Re: List Management 2015

                            Hopefully the sub rule will be axed for next season which will lessen the need for a forward/ruck. Don't get me wrong - it would still be invaluable to have a Ryder type on the list, but at least reverting to a standard 4 man interchange should make it easier to play 2 legitimate ruckmen if desired.

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                            • The Doctor
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 3702

                              #15
                              Re: List Management 2015

                              Uncontracted Players

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