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  • Mantis
    Hall of Fame
    • Apr 2007
    • 15412

    Re: List Management 2015

    Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
    Fair enough, you can never have too many midfielders.

    However, with Bont, Macrae, Hunter, Stevens, MacLean, Grant, Stringer, Dahl, as well as the quality inside-mids and JJ, Wood and Bob coming off half back, I don't see our pace and class position as being one of desperate need.
    Being a (maybe) harsh devil's advocate:

    Bont - class
    Macrae- not quick, not a great kick
    Hunter - looks likely, but isn't quick
    Stevens - very much an inside player
    McLean - likely type, not sure he is quick
    Grant - quick, but doesn't get a lot of it, especially against quality opposition
    Dahl -inside player, not a great kick
    Stringer - gun, but as a forward

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      Re: List Management 2015

      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
      Bucks just said no on 360. Richmond then?
      I saw a report listing Hawthorn & St Kilda amongst those interested.

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      • Bulldog Joe
        Premiership Moderator
        • Jul 2009
        • 5536

        Re: List Management 2015

        Originally posted by chef
        Even after what hes done hes still worth a first round pick.
        I seriously doubt he is worth that. What of the risk?

        If Hawthorn with all the alleged family values couldn't save Dayle Garlett, why should us (or any club) pay a high price for damaged goods.

        I know it would be a huge coup for a club to get him on the right path, but it would appear you would also need to employ a full time caretaker for Bennell.
        Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34316

          Re: List Management 2015

          Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
          I saw a report listing Hawthorn & St Kilda amongst those interested.
          Thinking about it more, if a low 20's pick got him. High second round. We could trade down for a player we want, and then on trade that. For illustration purposes: Our first rounder to Carlton for pick 21 and Yarran. Then 21 for Bennell. .???.
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          • Mantis
            Hall of Fame
            • Apr 2007
            • 15412

            Re: List Management 2015

            Originally posted by chef
            Even after what hes done hes still worth a first round pick.
            I think he's worth a pick inside 10 and probably a set of steak knives too.

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            • Greystache
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Dec 2009
              • 9775

              Re: List Management 2015

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              Bucks just said no on 360. Richmond then?
              And perhaps Essendon
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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                Re: List Management 2015

                Originally posted by Mantis
                Being a (maybe) harsh devil's advocate:

                Bont - class
                Macrae- not quick, not a great kick
                Hunter - looks likely, but isn't quick
                Stevens - very much an inside player
                McLean - likely type, not sure he is quick
                Grant - quick, but doesn't get a lot of it, especially against quality opposition
                Dahl -inside player, not a great kick
                Stringer - gun, but as a forward
                Fair call overall. Just to elaborate, I wasn't listing all of the above as complete pace/class players, just saying that collectively our outside midfield group is solid enough.

                I would not be averse to getting a pacy/classy midfielder by any means. For mine, though, it is not as glaring a need as a high quality ruckman or KPD.

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                • comrade
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 18004

                  Re: List Management 2015

                  Have GC lost leverage by openly putting him on the market? Yeah, they may ignite a bidding war but more likely, teams will be wary of pursuing a player that a club will willingly sack - which is effectively what they have done.
                  Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    Re: List Management 2015

                    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                    Thinking about it more, if a low 20's pick got him. High second round. We could trade down for a player we want, and then on trade that. For illustration purposes: Our first rounder to Carlton for pick 21 and Yarran. Then 21 for Bennell. .???.
                    GCS have plenty of kids but struggle for leadership. Maybe 2 or 3 experienced players will be more attractive than a draft pick?

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                    • Mantis
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 15412

                      Re: List Management 2015

                      Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                      Fair call overall. Just to elaborate, I wasn't listing all of the above as complete pace/class players, just saying that collectively our outside midfield group is solid enough.
                      But it could be elite.. and it could be our point of difference.

                      Add Libba + a quick/ classy mid and it makes us dangerous.

                      Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                      I would not be averse to getting a pacy/classy midfielder by any means. For mine, though, it is not as glaring a need as a high quality ruckman or KPD.
                      It will be interesting to see how important these spots are to Bevo & co. when the silly season begins.

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44571

                        Re: List Management 2015

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        Rocket on afl 360 sounded really disappointed that Bennell was going, he was really flat about it. I guess you'd expect Rocket to say it but he did say this will be the thing that gets his head screwed on right, just not at the GCS. His value is down, so I wonder where his market value lies?
                        Call me a skeptic but Rockets comments that this will be the thing that finally gets Bennell focused is more likely to be about not devaluing his worth any further.
                        On face value, Bennell's last misdemeanor should not have warranted him being moved on so there could very well be a bit more that hasn't made it into the media.

                        Someone will roll the dice with Bennell and the Suns will get a swag of early picks again in the draft with he and Dixon departing and perhaps they will look to recruit some proven talent. Perhaps Clayton and his team will place a bit more emphasis on the proven 'good young man' approach.
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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          Re: List Management 2015

                          Its being reported that GWS' Phillips is going to Carlton. Given he's a Ruckman, that would add weight to Kruezer leaving.

                          I really hope the medical report on Kruezer is not right (doesn't really add up). As a RFA, he'd be a great get for free.

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                          • whythelongface
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 4455

                            Re: List Management 2015

                            Would love to have a player of Bennell's (football) calibre at the club, however would be reluctant to trade for Bennell himself, based on his previous misdemeanours. Being from WA he may wish to be traded back home - Freo could do with some outside pace.

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                            • comrade
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 18004

                              Re: List Management 2015

                              Worst thing Bennell could do is go back to WA.
                              Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                Re: List Management 2015

                                Whispers going around that Port are open to Hamish Hartlett being traded. Apparently they need to move 1 quality player for cap reasons.

                                The sort of big bodied, hard running mid that could fit very nicely into our team?

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