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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44636

    Re: Tom Liberatore

    Originally posted by Axe Man
    Perfect for who? There is no "perfect age", everybody is different.
    There is a tendency in football to judge players by their age, height, speed or experience etc and in this instance about becoming a parent
    In most instances it's nearly always one of those classic 'time will tell' scenario's.

    I seem to recall that Stringer was seen by many as a mature type because he became a parent at something like 19 and now some might find Liberatore at 27 as being a bit young

    You're 100% spot on, there is no real perfect age and most people are different
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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66707

      Re: Tom Liberatore

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      There is a tendency in football to judge players by their age, height, speed or experience etc and in this instance about becoming a parent
      In most instances it's nearly always one of those classic 'time will tell' scenario's.

      I seem to recall that Stringer was seen by many as a mature type because he became a parent at something like 19 and now some might find Liberatore at 27 as being a bit young

      You're 100% spot on, there is no real perfect age and most people are different
      He is only young due to the average in society now, nothing wrong with having a child at his age in life, each to their own
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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44636

        Re: Tom Liberatore

        Originally posted by bornadog
        He is only young due to the average in society now, nothing wrong with having a child at his age in life, each to their own
        But his age was called out before you knew what the average was and only was done after GD queried the reference to his age.
        I think given his career including his attitude and approach to life, Liberatore has frequently proven to be anything but average.
        It's likely that time will tell if the average is relevant.
        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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        • AshMac
          WOOF Member
          • Aug 2018
          • 1712

          Re: Tom Liberatore

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          He's always seemed to be a player that has responded very well to challenges and hopefully this might be the spur to really get stuck into it this year. I remain very hopeful that despite his injury setbacks we will see a very good version of Tom Liberatore on the park this year
          If he can play 20 games this year, then to date we are getting excited about the wrong players. The potential impact Libba can bring to the team would be the greatest of our list IMO - spiritually and physically.

          I’ll remain optimistic and hopeful that we e see the Libba we’ve all been waiting 3 years for back again.
          The dam wall has busted!

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          • Mofra
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 14950

            Re: Tom Liberatore

            Originally posted by AshMac
            If he can play 20 games this year, then to date we are getting excited about the wrong players. The potential impact Libba can bring to the team would be the greatest of our list IMO - spiritually and physically.

            I’ll remain optimistic and hopeful that we e see the Libba we’ve all been waiting 3 years for back again.
            Where does that leave our midfield rotations?
            One track watcher said Bailey Smith has been playing wing - he can do that. How do we rotate Bont, Macrae and Dunkley through the middle? Bont and Macrae can play outside, Dunks less so. Libba is a beautiful left foot kick but his strength is winning the ball and tackling so he'd be the 'extracter' when he's in there.

            Will he be happy to start on the bench as an 'impact' player and have the odd stint forward as a defensive forward? We do tend to play a 6th mid as a forward but Libba isn't that great at it.
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            • The Pie Man
              Coaching Staff
              • May 2008
              • 3497

              Re: Tom Liberatore

              Originally posted by Mofra
              Where does that leave our midfield rotations?
              One track watcher said Bailey Smith has been playing wing - he can do that. How do we rotate Bont, Macrae and Dunkley through the middle? Bont and Macrae can play outside, Dunks less so. Libba is a beautiful left foot kick but his strength is winning the ball and tackling so he'd be the 'extracter' when he's in there.

              Will he be happy to start on the bench as an 'impact' player and have the odd stint forward as a defensive forward? We do tend to play a 6th mid as a forward but Libba isn't that great at it.
              Smith on a wing could be a beautiful thing. Any clues on his tank (other than looking ripping fit)?
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              • Sedat
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2007
                • 11248

                Re: Tom Liberatore

                We are 4-0 in finals with Libba in the team and 0-2 in finals without him. When fully fit, Libba only makes us stronger.
                "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                • mjp
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 7363

                  Re: Tom Liberatore

                  Originally posted by GVGjr
                  But his age was called out before you knew what the average was and only was done after GD queried the reference to his age.
                  I think given his career including his attitude and approach to life, Liberatore has frequently proven to be anything but average.
                  It's likely that time will tell if the average is relevant.
                  JJ had a child last year and (happy to be corrected) his age wasn’t mentioned.

                  He is the same age as Tom.
                  What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44636

                    Re: Tom Liberatore

                    Originally posted by mjp
                    JJ had a child last year and (happy to be corrected) his age wasn’t mentioned.

                    He is the same age as Tom.
                    Good point.
                    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66707

                      Re: Tom Liberatore

                      Originally posted by mjp
                      JJ had a child last year and (happy to be corrected) his age wasn’t mentioned.

                      He is the same age as Tom.
                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      Good point.
                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      But his age was called out before you knew what the average was and only was done after GD queried the reference to his age.
                      I am not sure why a big deal is being made. All I said was I was surprised at his age he is a father. Also, what you are saying GVGjr is incorrect. I was going on experience. My daughter is 26 and none of her friends are married or with kids.

                      It is a known fact people are leaving marriage and birth to their 30s now. I followed up with the average, to prove a point, but as I said who cares, it is up to individuals.

                      Why go on about it.
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                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44636

                        Re: Tom Liberatore

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        I am not sure why a big deal is being made. All I said was I was surprised at his age he is a father. Also, what you are saying GVGjr is incorrect. I was going on experience. My daughter is 26 and none of her friends are married or with kids.

                        It is a known fact people are leaving marriage and birth to their 30s now. I followed up with the average, to prove a point, but as I said who cares, it is up to individuals.

                        Why go on about it.
                        You've provided the clarity and thanks for that.
                        The point I'm making is from what I have seen with Liberatore over the years he strikes me as a unique type not one likely to be in the 'averages'.
                        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66707

                          Re: Tom Liberatore

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          You've provided the clarity and thanks for that.
                          The point I'm making is from what I have seen with Liberatore over the years he strikes me as a unique type not one likely to be in the 'averages'.
                          That I agree with for sure. I hope he has a good season, because he will be invaluable if fit and firing and best 22 as far as I am concerned.
                          FFC: Established 1883

                          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                          • AshMac
                            WOOF Member
                            • Aug 2018
                            • 1712

                            Re: Tom Liberatore

                            Originally posted by Mofra
                            Where does that leave our midfield rotations?
                            One track watcher said Bailey Smith has been playing wing - he can do that. How do we rotate Bont, Macrae and Dunkley through the middle? Bont and Macrae can play outside, Dunks less so. Libba is a beautiful left foot kick but his strength is winning the ball and tackling so he'd be the 'extracter' when he's in there.

                            Will he be happy to start on the bench as an 'impact' player and have the odd stint forward as a defensive forward? We do tend to play a 6th mid as a forward but Libba isn't that great at it.
                            I can see Libba resting in the forward line more than Dunkley - but yeh it’s force one out. Like the idea of bailey smith on a wing assumed given his age it’s be him
                            The dam wall has busted!

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                            • Twodogs
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 27655

                              Re: Tom Liberatore

                              There's a big difference between having a child as a result of a long term relationship (like Tom) and just knocking up the first girl you get to do it with( like a lot of kids did in my day).

                              Age has little to do with how good a parent you are. The mother of my kids is 15 years younger than me and she is a terrific parent.
                              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 66707

                                Re: Tom Liberatore

                                FFC: Established 1883

                                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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