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  • Sedat
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2007
    • 11248

    Re: Tom Liberatore

    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
    We will be screwed with no first rounder, then no Libba, Dunkley, Hunter, no Smith next year, Macrae & Daniel all but cooked. Life’s not going to be fun but there’s a lot more to focus on for Libba and those who love or idolise him.
    He's a father and a family man first and foremost. Nothing else frankly matters.

    If we don't see him out on the park again, he has already given us so many wonderful memories. He needs to be given the best possible advice to ensure the rest of his life is able to be lived to its fullest without cognitive impairment. He and his family deserve nothing less.
    "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      Re: Tom Liberatore

      Originally posted by Sedat
      He's a father and a family man first and foremost. Nothing else frankly matters.

      If we don't see him out on the park again, he has already given us so many wonderful memories. He needs to be given the best possible advice to ensure the rest of his life is able to be lived to its fullest without cognitive impairment. He and his family deserve nothing less.
      100%.
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • hujsh
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2007
        • 11841

        Re: Tom Liberatore

        Originally posted by Sedat
        He's a father and a family man first and foremost. Nothing else frankly matters.

        If we don't see him out on the park again, he has already given us so many wonderful memories. He needs to be given the best possible advice to ensure the rest of his life is able to be lived to its fullest without cognitive impairment. He and his family deserve nothing less.
        He has given us enough. Someone else needs to step up and carry his load
        [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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        • Sedat
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2007
          • 11248

          Re: Tom Liberatore

          Originally posted by angelopetraglia
          I?m sinking into a state of deep football depression.

          The clubs short term prospects looks clouded and just the thought of not seeing Tom Liberatore run out again in the red, white and blue is enough to send me into a deep hole.
          I take a different approach. We are being absolutely smashed from pillar to post by everyone in the footy community - we should batten down the hatches, eliminate all the irrelevant external white noise, look each other in the eye and dedicate the rest of this season to Libba. There would be no greater legacy for his playing career than to have success this year using him as the guide and inspiration.

          It would be too easy for the club to revert to victim mode, which would be deeply insulting to the way Libba has played throughout his career. We must be better than that and chase this season like there is no tomorrow, because for a number of players and the senior coach there may well literally be no tomorrow. They are privileged to be able to play/coach footy every week (something that might have been prematurely taken away from Libba), and they are duty-bound to make the absolute most of every moment and every game. Park 2025 and beyond to the side and focus on the now - great things can be achieved with laser focus, clarity, persistence and determination.
          "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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          • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 8962

            Re: Tom Liberatore

            Tom is such a heart and soul player we will miss him incredibly, but I just don't see how continuing on can be worth the risk for him.
            As much as his teammates need him (and they clearly do need him!) it pales into comparison as to how much his family need him.

            Thank you for your contribution Tom, for giving me and many thousands of others some amazing football memories.
            You deservedly sit right up there amongst the most important footballers of this club's history.

            Obviously I'm being very premature, but I just don't want to see this legend to endure anymore head knocks, and the type of player he is, he's not going to help himself with how he plays; its in his DNA.

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44645

              Re: Tom Liberatore

              Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
              Tom is such a heart and soul player we will miss him incredibly, but I just don't see how continuing on can be worth the risk for him.
              As much as his teammates need him (and they clearly do need him!) it pales into comparison as to how much his family need him.

              Thank you for your contribution Tom, for giving me and many thousands of others some amazing football memories.
              You deservedly sit right up there amongst the most important footballers of this club's history.

              Obviously I'm being very premature, but I just don't want to see this legend to endure anymore head knocks, and the type of player he is, he's not going to help himself with how he plays; its in his DNA.
              If one good thing has come out of all this dreadful concussion challenges that the competition is going through is how the supporters are now so understanding and acknowledging that it's not worth taking the risk and the need to look at the bigger picture.

              I'm not so sure that even 5 years or so ago that the sentiment would have been what we are now seeing from our supporters.
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • josie
                Coaching Staff
                • Oct 2012
                • 4487

                Re: Tom Liberatore

                All heartfelt posts. Agree Sedat- let?s dedicate rest of season to the most beloved player.
                Josie :)

                Our day will come
                And we'll have everything.
                We'll share the joy
                Just like '54 again.

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                • EasternWest
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 10002

                  Re: Tom Liberatore

                  Originally posted by Sedat
                  He's a father and a family man first and foremost. Nothing else frankly matters.

                  If we don't see him out on the park again, he has already given us so many wonderful memories. He needs to be given the best possible advice to ensure the rest of his life is able to be lived to its fullest without cognitive impairment. He and his family deserve nothing less.
                  And let's never overlook what he gave the people of Vietnam.
                  "It's over. It's all over."

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                  • ledge
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 14312

                    Re: Tom Liberatore

                    If the AFL is serious on head hits why don’t they instruct umpires to call holding the ball earlier rather than wait for the tackler to have to bring the player to the ground ?
                    180 swing is enough, blow the whistle.
                    Players have been told to hold the ball as long as possible while getting tackled and don’t let it go so you don’t get called for dropping it.
                    Holding the ball is given way too much leeway. These head hits on the ground would at least half if umpires were instructed to blow the bloody whistle .
                    Bring back the biff

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                    • jeemak
                      Bulldog Legend
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 21831

                      Re: Tom Liberatore

                      I?m not going to advocate telling Tom that he can?t do everything he can to earn. To an extent his risk is his to own.

                      Continuing is a few hundred gorillas and to him that vs. where he is today is probably pretty big.

                      If the club steps in and stops him playing then that?s ok too, but we as supporters can?t pretend he has nothing to gain from continuing.
                      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66726

                        Re: Tom Liberatore

                        Originally posted by jeemak
                        I?m not going to advocate telling Tom that he can?t do everything he can to earn. To an extent his risk is his to own.

                        Continuing is a few hundred gorillas and to him that vs. where he is today is probably pretty big.

                        If the club steps in and stops him playing then that?s ok too, but we as supporters can?t pretend he has nothing to gain from continuing.
                        He will receive medical advice and make a decision from there. Whatever he chooses as you say is up to him. If he chooses to retire, it will be sad, and we will remember him for a long time, just like his father.
                        FFC: Established 1883

                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14953

                          Re: Tom Liberatore

                          Tom's a father now too so that surely has to factor into his thinking. I'd hate to see another Picken / Kellett scenario
                          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                          • Bulldog Joe
                            Premiership Moderator
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 5569

                            Re: Tom Liberatore

                            Originally posted by ledge
                            If the AFL is serious on head hits why don’t they instruct umpires to call holding the ball earlier rather than wait for the tackler to have to bring the player to the ground ?
                            180 swing is enough, blow the whistle.
                            Players have been told to hold the ball as long as possible while getting tackled and don’t let it go so you don’t get called for dropping it.
                            Holding the ball is given way too much leeway. These head hits on the ground would at least half if umpires were instructed to blow the bloody whistle .
                            This is so much the required action and it should not need any sort of 360.
                            There needs an immediate whistle on a tackle and we need to penalise the player who makes no effort for anything other than a stoppage.
                            Stop rewarding players for putting themselves in unnecessary danger
                            Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                            • FrediKanoute
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 3830

                              Re: Tom Liberatore

                              Originally posted by hujsh
                              He has given us enough. Someone else needs to step up and carry his load
                              This sums up the state of our team - no one steps up. No one grabs that initiative and says, "come on lads, follow me".

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                              • macca
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 2366

                                Re: Tom Liberatore

                                Take are Tom of your health first, you have given the club heaps in spades.

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