Cooney - how good is he really?

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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #1

    Cooney - how good is he really?

    Today we had a fantastic win with Cooney gaining 31 possessions and generally judged the best Bulldog.

    Just how good was he?

    Yes, he was a good player - gaining those 31 possessions, but his delivery and decision making was often very poor, especially in the 2 quarter.

    How many of his possessions were kicked to a team mate, a contest, or to an opponent?

    I don't have the stats, but from where I was sitting (Footscray end, Level 2) I had an excellent view looking down the ground. Cooney, in the second quarter, would gain the ball, turn blindly, and have to dispose of the ball quickly. Too often he would kick out to the wing/flank/forward pocket on the Interchange side of the ground, rather than directly towards goal.

    These kicks weren't delivered onto the chest of a team mate - usually wide, to a contest, that resulted in a turn over.

    Whilst I'm being critical of the second quarter, he did play very well for most of the game.
    He was certainly one of our best players and deserves the praise.

    However, I would like to see him more composed with his decision making, and his kicks more direct towards goal (and to a player).

    Your thoughts, please.
  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 45538

    #2
    Re: Cooney - how good is he really?

    Cooney is yet to get the most out of his talent in my opinion however, with a full uninterrupted pre-season behind him I think he will be hitting his straps more consistently this season than ever before.

    I'll agree that his decision making and skills can be desert him from time-to-time and that we should expect better from him but I think all the signs are positive for a standout season.

    In short it's too early to tell but a review in a few weeks might provide us with a better picture.
    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #3
      Re: Cooney - how good is he really?

      All valid points DD but if he maintains this type of form he will clearly have his best season. He was good in the contests today which is an added bonus.

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      • hujsh
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2007
        • 11960

        #4
        Re: Cooney - how good is he really?

        A great Cooney moment was, no doubt, when int the first quarter he got the ball on the ground surrounded by Crows and he shoveled it out to one of our guys for who set up a goal.

        He also runs the ball out of the centre square which is a talent
        [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #5
          Re: Cooney - how good is he really?

          Just watched the replay on Foxtel - 3rd & 4th qtrs only.

          The impact Cooney can have on the team with his long direct kicking is remarkable.

          Two long penetrating kicks from the center, hitting the target 40m from goal (one being Aker resulting in a goal) in the last quarter - no comparison to the 2nd quarter.

          That confident, direct type of play, is what will make Cooney the great player be hope he will one day be.

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          • BulldogBelle
            WOOF Member
            • Nov 2006
            • 5284

            #6
            Re: Cooney - how good is he really?

            Originally posted by Doggy-Doo
            Two long penetrating kicks from the center, hitting the target 40m from goal (one being Aker resulting in a goal) in the last quarter - no comparison to the 2nd quarter.
            Cooney was excellent today..that kick to Aker was absolutely remarkable he sighted Aker and pinpointed that kick to perfection. He has the scope to become anything he is in for a massive season. Great game today from Adam.

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            • hujsh
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2007
              • 11960

              #7
              Re: Cooney - how good is he really?

              Not hearing as many Coooooons as i have before. Disappointing
              [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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              • Go_Dogs
                Hall of Fame
                • Jan 2007
                • 10251

                #8
                Re: Cooney - how good is he really?

                Thought he was great and seems to have had his input a bit underrated by a few on here, in my opinion.
                Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                • BulldogBelle
                  WOOF Member
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 5284

                  #9
                  Re: Cooney - how good is he really?

                  Originally posted by Griffen#16
                  Thought he was great and seems to have had his input a bit underrated by a few on here, in my opinion.
                  Same, I thought he played a great game. Griffen#16 - everyone has different viewpoints and have their own ideas on player performances - if we all thought the same earth would be a boring place.

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                  • The Bulldogs Bite
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 11407

                    #10
                    Re: Cooney - how good is he really?

                    Just watched the replay and boy, Cooney was absolutely terrific. Couple of skill errors, but I don't think you could name a player who didn't turn over the ball at least once today. He looks in great shape and you'd have to bank money that he'll have his best year yet - barring injury (touch wood).

                    He does need to concentrate on his decision making/skills. It's certainly not a 'talent' problem - he has good skills on both sides of his body, I think it comes down to a concentration thing. At times he leans back on the kicks and is a bit lazy, and they either drop short or go a little long. He kicked a ball off one step today and it missed the target by a long way, luckily Gilbee had plenty of time to retrieve the ball. His execution for the most part is great, but I agree he needs to concentrate that little bit harder. It's generally when he's not under pressure he makes these unnecessary mistakes.

                    Nevertheless, Cooney's looking pretty impressive. He's becoming the complete midfielder now. Good height, strong body, explosive pace, good leap & mark, good skills & a hardened defensive side to his game with pressure & tackling. Not to mention, a goal kicking midfielder who is effective up forward. The key for Coons now is consistency, because he's improved basically every facet of his game. His fitness is up, he's had a good pre-season - I reckon he's due for a big one.
                    W00F!

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                    • Sockeye Salmon
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6365

                      #11
                      Re: Cooney - how good is he really?

                      Originally posted by Doggy-Doo
                      Today we had a fantastic win with Cooney gaining 31 possessions and generally judged the best Bulldog.

                      Just how good was he?

                      Yes, he was a good player - gaining those 31 possessions, but his delivery and decision making was often very poor, especially in the 2 quarter.

                      How many of his possessions were kicked to a team mate, a contest, or to an opponent?

                      I don't have the stats, but from where I was sitting (Footscray end, Level 2) I had an excellent view looking down the ground. Cooney, in the second quarter, would gain the ball, turn blindly, and have to dispose of the ball quickly. Too often he would kick out to the wing/flank/forward pocket on the Interchange side of the ground, rather than directly towards goal.

                      These kicks weren't delivered onto the chest of a team mate - usually wide, to a contest, that resulted in a turn over.

                      Whilst I'm being critical of the second quarter, he did play very well for most of the game.
                      He was certainly one of our best players and deserves the praise.

                      However, I would like to see him more composed with his decision making, and his kicks more direct towards goal (and to a player).

                      Your thoughts, please.
                      3 ineffective kicks and one free against.

                      I thought he was fantastic. His pass to Aker at the start of the last and his pass to Johnno at the end were first class.

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                      • Mantis
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 15547

                        #12
                        Re: Cooney - how good is he really?

                        I thought he was great, worked harder than he has in the past.

                        Clearance work was first rate, great to see him and Will team up for some excellent centre square work late in the game.

                        My only cross would be some of his handball's put his team-mates under pressure when a quick clearing kick would have been a better option.

                        Hopefully that is the standard for his work-rate he has set for the year.

                        Was quite surprised Adelaide allowed him to roam almost un-checked, other opposition teams I feel wont be so friendly.

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                        • dog town
                          Senior Player
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 1925

                          #13
                          Re: Cooney - how good is he really?

                          Just about the best player on the ground yesterday.

                          Still not getting enough outside touches. Something else that is bothering me with him that he seems happy to recieve flat footed and give a quick handball to the first person he can. He often put people under enormous pressure at times yesterday. I would like to see him look to burst away with the footy and deliver by foot.

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                          • Go_Dogs
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 10251

                            #14
                            Re: Cooney - how good is he really?

                            Originally posted by BulldogBelle
                            Same, I thought he played a great game. Griffen#16 - everyone has different viewpoints and have their own ideas on player performances - if we all thought the same earth would be a boring place.
                            Agreed BB - sorry if I sounded like I was being rude.
                            Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #15
                              Re: Cooney - how good is he really?

                              Originally posted by Griffen#16
                              Agreed BB - sorry if I sounded like I was being rude.
                              No probs at all Griff.

                              I was just raising the issue with his decision making and delivery when the team was under pressure.

                              He did play a great game - no doubt.

                              I want him to take the next step.

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