Michael Talia

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Michael Talia

Yes, it's not a schoolyard he said she said. Club's are so professional these days, I find it hard to believe there wouldn't be something in it. The prelim result is beside the point. Any time of the year, you can't have people giving out sensitive info.
For the Hawthorn lads to contact Luke, I mean they just would not do that if it wasn't serious. Players don't like having their names in the media for nothing.

His value has dropped now, but Lake was a pick 72. Let's get something out of it. I don't believe clubs will hesitate to get him. Such is the pressure cooker of AFL. Clubs have overlooked worse.

[chef]

Re: Michael Talia

No matter what he's done we should still be trying to get as much as we can for him. He's hurt the club enough already.

[GVGjr]

Re: Michael Talia

My hope is that as a Club we can move on from this quickly, showing maturity and a level of grace regardless of where blame sits.

There are a lot of angry and shattered people on both sides of the fence who have been long, loyal and passionate supporters of our Club.

We must find a way to bring closure and unity to this as my fear is that we are risk of creating an irreparable division within the Club, from past players, their families, friends, associates and coteries where there are many tight and broad relationships that if broken can put our viability at some risk.

The Club has done great things under David Smorgon's and Peter Gordon's tenure to bring us closer together by actively promoting key social elements of our Club, none moreso than invigorating a previously lame Past Players group which this year in particular seemed to turn a corner (no doubt our successful season played its part).

Our leaders must now lead to help bring us back together as the broader effect of this is not insignificant.

I implore Peter, David and Luke to address this issue of unity with haste, to effectively manage the dissension, the anger and hurt, being felt at this time by those supportive or close to the Talia's and Stevens' position regardless of right and wrong.

Thanks Doc26 for bringing in some clarity and a bigger perspective to all of us to consider.

[ledge]

Re: Michael Talia

By the sounds of it the club on a higher level Will deal with it and I imagine Luke has been told to not concern himself about it and concentrate on the football and coaching side of things.
Which I would say is the right way to go about it.

[1eyedog]

Re: Michael Talia

Talia's virtually unemployable in the industry now, by the looks of it... No big loss. Always struck me as an overly entitled sook, anyway. Good riddance.

Yeah been thinking about this for a few days. Playing bush league next year is a very real possibility for Michael now. I couldn't be stuffed with a trade to be honest.

[Throughandthrough]

Re: Michael Talia

Talia's virtually unemployable in the industry now, by the looks of it... No big loss. Always struck me as an overly entitled sook, anyway. Good riddance.

He could do footy club dinners with Ackermanis

[Sedat]

Re: Michael Talia

Been overseas and missed all the Talia leak-gate stuff. Whilst I hope he is exposed if he did indeed betray his employer with leaking sensitive information, I hope the club does not in any way, shape or form use this as an excuse for losing the EF. That loss must continue to burn over summer and the players need to realise that it was a lost opportunity against an inferior side.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Michael Talia

Still think Talia will end up at Adelaide. Doubt the investigation will be resolved pre-trade.

[Webby]

Re: Michael Talia

Still think Talia will end up at Adelaide. Doubt the investigation will be resolved pre-trade.

Here's a scenario for you all: the investigation will, indeed, not be resolved until after the trade period. This will mean that no club, including Adelaide, will want to touch Talia. This will mean that Talia will end up in the pre season draft, where, he will be un-draftable by all clubs - except, you guessed it, Adelaide.

If found guilty, he's basically a known Judas to the entire industry. They say one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. To 17 clubs, he's a terrorist, but to one he's perhaps a freedom fighter...

Therefore, in this (far from far-fetched) scenario, Adelaide are not only handed an invaluable advantage in a final, but also potentially pick up the brother of their best defender for free in the pre season draft...!

There have been examples of players and officials receiving 6 month bans for $5 bets on AFL games. Surely the stakes of two multi million dollar operations playing off in a final are inexorably higher... Therefore, if found guilty, Talia needs to receive a 12 month ban from football at the very, very least.

Btw,the "terrorist" thing is an analogy. I'm not literally calling Talia a terrorist..!

[LostDoggy]

Re: Michael Talia

Possibly the most accurate part of the article. Macca got many a whack for not playing Talia even though Talia had showed little form at Footscray and was sulking. Now when Bevo doesn't play him it would appear he has sulked again.

I see many parallels with Josh Hill. Unfortunately, Talia may prove just as useful to the Crows as Hill has to the Eagles.

As expected there are conflicting stories but unless someone has conjured up a lot of crap and the media has just run with it's increasingly harder to believe the brothers side of the story. Pickering is still pushing the whole 'there is nothing to it' aspect which was always going to be the case. If true, Talia is not the victim as Pickers is making out.

The question for the club now is do they sack him or facilitate a trade and get something out of this betrayal?

I would instruct Jmac thus: Whatever they offer, take it. Under no circumstances are you to honour this boy by claiming he's of any value to us whatsoever.

Some things are more important than draft picks. With our current draft and rookie record I'm comfortable with any pick, really.

Here's a scenario for you all: the investigation will, indeed, not be resolved until after the trade period. This will mean that no club, including Adelaide, will want to touch Talia. This will mean that Talia will end up in the pre season draft, where, he will be un-draftable by all clubs - except, you guessed it, Adelaide.

If found guilty, he's basically a known Judas to the entire industry. They say one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. To 17 clubs, he's a terrorist, but to one he's perhaps a freedom fighter...

Therefore, in this (far from far-fetched) scenario, Adelaide are not only handed an invaluable advantage in a final, but also potentially pick up the brother of their best defender for free in the pre season draft...!

There have been examples of players and officials receiving 6 month bans for $5 bets on AFL games. Surely the stakes of two multi million dollar operations playing off in a final are inexorably higher... Therefore, if found guilty, Talia needs to receive a 12 month ban from football at the very, very least.

Btw,the "terrorist" thing is an analogy. I'm not literally calling Talia a terrorist..!

Of course not. Terrorists believe in something.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Michael Talia

Luke Darcy is making these pro Bulldogs rants a bit of a thing. The list so far:
- losing fitness guy to the Suns
- missing out on Etihad final
- Talia

I normally find Darcy awful to listen to but must say, I do find these passion laced rants rather endearing.

[SonofScray]

Re: Michael Talia

Luke Darcy is making these pro Bulldogs rants a bit of a thing. The list so far:
- losing fitness guy to the Suns
- missing out on Etihad final
- Talia

I normally find Darcy awful to listen to but must say, I do find these passion laced rants rather endearing.

Good to have someone beating the drum in the media and keeping the scandal spinners a little bit accountable. Clearly passionate about the Club still which I'll respect above everything else he does as a media pundit.

I was talking to a few neutral people, non football people this week about the Talia stuff, it was surprising how many of them had an immediate reaction to downplay it initially. When I changed Talia to an employee of Holden handing over information to their brother at Ford the day before a launch of a new product they were aghast and said they'd want that guy sacked and sued within an inch of his life.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Michael Talia

Yes, and I think the players association has case to answer for going public with a narrative on it while the case is pending. The players who may have suffered because of the leak have rights too.

[westdog54]

Re: Michael Talia

Yes, and I think the players association has case to answer for going public with a narrative on it while the case is pending. The players who may have suffered because of the leak have rights too.

Good call. They've basically made Kyle Cheney and Ben Stratton look like dibber dobbers. They pay their fees too.

The AFLPA are terrible with public relations.

All it would have taken would have been:

"The AFLPA had been contacted by two players in relation to an investigation by the AFL integrity unit.

The Association understands that the investigation was requested by the Western Bulldogs in relation to an alleged leak of sensitive information.

We are continuing to support and advise the players involved.

As this is an ongoing investigation it would be inappropriate to comment further."

[Throughandthrough]

Re: Michael Talia

Did the Crows surprisingly drop Jake Lever for Kyle Cheney based on inside info?