Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34316

    Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

    Originally posted by 1eyedog
    This. Should not be missing from 35 metres in front. Grant was even closer. I just knew it would bite us us - shades of 09 against the Cats.
    Whole of team performance. I think Bonts on the full was the worst of his 3 misses, Wallis miss was crucial and Crameri kicking 2.5 was out of the ordinary for him too. Was a real team effort to miss so many gettable chances.
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    • Mantis
      Hall of Fame
      • Apr 2007
      • 15414

      Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

      Originally posted by bornadog
      I am not saying Talia should have played, I am saying Roberts and Hamling weren't up to the task and we had little choice.
      If you had told me prior to the game that Adelaide would have kicked 16 goals and Walker and Jenkins would have combined for 3 I would've laughed.

      Roberts and Hamling did pretty well all things considered.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66622

        Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

        Originally posted by Mantis
        If you had told me prior to the game that Adelaide would have kicked 16 goals and Walker and Jenkins would have combined for 3 I would've laughed.

        Roberts and Hamling did pretty well all things considered.
        Walkers 10 marks was telling in the end.
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        • 1eyedog
          Hall of Fame
          • Mar 2008
          • 13230

          Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          Whole of team performance. I think Bonts on the full was the worst of his 3 misses, Wallis miss was crucial and Crameri kicking 2.5 was out of the ordinary for him too. Was a real team effort to miss so many gettable chances.
          Agreed Grant and Bont weren't alone. Stewy has to learn to lower the eyes every once in a while.
          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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          • G-Mo77
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Apr 2007
            • 9880

            Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

            After sitting through many gut wrenching finals losses you think I'd be used to this. Nope. I'm absolutely gutted right now, long drive back and I'll sit in bed for the next 2 - 3 hours wondering what could have been.

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            • merantau
              Coaching Staff
              • May 2015
              • 4031

              Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

              So close again and it IS painful. However, we have begun to assemble the team to win a flag. This was an important step. Big stage, 60,000 in and we got a valuable lesson in what you have to do to win a final - kick straight and choose the right option. Picken, Wallis and Dahl simply magnificent. 2016 - bring it on! I'm pumped! Go Dogs!!!
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              • Mantis
                Hall of Fame
                • Apr 2007
                • 15414

                Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

                Originally posted by bornadog
                Walkers 10 marks was telling in the end.
                Walker is a gun who has played over 100 games.. Our 2 key defenders have played less than 20 each.

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                • G-Mo77
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9880

                  Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

                  Originally posted by Mantis
                  Walker is a gun who has played over 100 games.. Our 2 key defenders have played less than 20 each.
                  I thought both improved as the game went on. Roberts did make some big errors late though. Hopefully all involved will be better for it.

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                  • The Bulldogs Bite
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 11232

                    Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

                    Originally posted by Sedat
                    I believed that earlier tonight but the this group with no weight of history on their shoulders did exactly the same thing as many teams before did, and lost in exactly the same way. It is a very tough gig being a Dogs supporter.
                    That's how I feel about it too. I was pretty certain this team was very different to that of 97-98 and 08-10, so much so that I hadn't even thought about what happened in those games today. Walking to the G tonight, I was sure if we played well then we'd win.

                    To lose in exactly the same way has left me feeling as flat as I can remember. A sobering reminder that we are, after all, Dogs supporters.

                    There's more to it (ie. our team defense was atrocious in the first half especially) but I'm finding it difficult to be overly positive right now. We have some major issues with the list (ageing players in key positions, bare cupboard for key backs, unproven rucks and a gun mid short) and our depth isn't as good as we thought it was when we were toweling up mediocre sides like Essendon and Port. Our top 15-18 or so looks good, but there's still a lot to fix.
                    W00F!

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                    • SonofScray
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 4235

                      Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

                      A horrible night.

                      One of my best mates had a fit just as the players ran out, had to administer first aid and frantically plead for MCG staff to assist while they looked on dumbfounded. The site of his face turning blue and shaking is going to keep me awake for days. I can't recall any details of the game to be perfectly frank, other than at 4.4 I felt we'd fluffed it.

                      This felt like a less controversial version of the 09 Prelim. We were good enough and are good to have got the result and I believe to have won the lot this year. Not "in the future" now. Today. I'm a mess at moment. So disappointed.

                      The March was a great scene. So glad the idea came to life.
                      Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

                        Walker played an inspired game tonight, but he was defended as well as could be hoped. He only took 3 marks inside 50 and ran long and hard for his possessions. Key defenders just can not stop that. He only took 2 contested marks all night, everything else was long, hard, sustained leading.

                        All of Walkers goals were kicked from 50 or further and Jenkins had 0 shots on goal. If Walker doesn't freakishly nail 3 from 50+, the tall defender stats look a lot better

                        Adelaide's leading marktaker inside 50 was Eddie Betts.

                        The way the game played out, I am firmly in the camp that thought Hamling and Roberts did a very sound job, as they did last week when Brisbane's key forwards did very little despite heavy supply.

                        Mind you, I'd still really love a genuine power kpd next year.

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                        • Rocco Jones
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 6932

                          Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

                          I find the Talia calls hilarious. As Sedat mentioned, Kyle Hardingham smashed him today.

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                          • Sedat
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 11228

                            Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

                            Originally posted by 1eyedog
                            This. Should not be missing from 35 metres in front. Grant was even closer. I just knew it would bite us us - shades of 09 against the Cats.
                            For me, it's not even about the missed shots in the 1st and 3rd qtr - as annoying and ultimately damaging as they were. It is about lacking composure in critical moments late in finals - the Bont out of bounds and the Crameri fumble/missed handpass from Hunter. Nail these 2 moments, as the players involved should have, and we have a famous finals win. By contrast Walker nailed his key moments - one a set shot and one a beautiful spot-up to Charlie Cameron. We have never nailed the key moments in finals, not in my lifetime anyway. I cling to the hope that one day we'll be on the right side of a Billy Brainless after the siren moment, a Darren Jarman putting us away, a Riewoldt stepping up, a Leigh Matthews bobbing up in crucial moments, and not always on the receiving end of such heartbreaking moments. We've had our chances over the years (as we did tonight) - the Bont/Crameri moments tonight can just be added to the Gilbee miss in 09, the Mark West miss and Grant/Hudson fumbles in 97, the inability to ice 30 seconds off the clock against Geelong in 94, etc...
                            "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                            • Sedat
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 11228

                              Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

                              Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                              If Walker doesn't freakishly nail 3 from 50+, the tall defender stats look a lot better
                              Were they freakish, or simply clinical?
                              "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                              • Ghost Dog
                                WOOF Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 9404

                                Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

                                Originally posted by Sedat
                                For me, it's not even about the missed shots in the 1st and 3rd qtr - as annoying and ultimately damaging as they were. It is about lacking composure in critical moments late in finals - the Bont out of bounds and the Crameri fumble/missed handpass from Hunter. Nail these 2 moments, as the players involved should have, and we have a famous finals win. By contrast Walker nailed his key moments - one a set shot and one a beautiful spot-up to Charlie Cameron. We have never nailed the key moments in finals, not in my lifetime anyway. I cling to the hope that one day we'll be on the right side of a Billy Brainless after the siren moment, a Darren Jarman putting us away, a Riewoldt stepping up, a Leigh Matthews bobbing up in crucial moments, and not always on the receiving end of such heartbreaking moments. We've had our chances over the years (as we did tonight) - the Bont/Crameri moments tonight can just be added to the Gilbee miss in 09, the Mark West miss and Grant/Hudson fumbles in 97, the inability to ice 30 seconds off the clock against Geelong in 94, etc...
                                Lin Jong nailed his moment. We just didn't nail enough.
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