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  • BornInDroopSt'54
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2009
    • 5286

    Re: Round 1 2016 team

    Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
    In finding a straight replacement for Crameri, we will lose something as no-one else has both the power and the mobility (other than Stringer who's already there). It'll be interesting to see if we look for more of a key position type or a mobile type from our remaining options.
    Crameri is a gun, a powerful, big bodied runner and a goal kicker so can't be replaced with like for like, just best available. Someone who can get the ball and kick and set up goals consistently.
    JJ is a lock in and if we had two of him, they would both be lock ins.
    Footscray Football Republic.

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      Re: Round 1 2016 team

      Originally posted by BornInDroopSt'54
      Crameri is a gun, a powerful, big bodied runner and a goal kicker so can't be replaced with like for like, just best available. Someone who can get the ball and kick goals consistently.
      Agree with that. What is interesting to me is whether we view his strength, power as more integral and go for a Redpath or is it more his mobility and go for a Maclean (or just restructure completely).

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      • F'scary
        WOOF Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 4089

        Re: Round 1 2016 team

        One word: Kobe.
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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34289

          Re: Round 1 2016 team

          So Crameri is out. Adcock seems a replacement, but Josh Dunkley seems to be impressing. Bailey Dale looks much bigger. Could The Specimen or Collins bolt into round 1? Libba & Kobes come back if completely fit says Bevo.

          The NAB Challenge games mean nothing per se, but could mean a lot for the round 1 team. Interest month ahead to see how things go for round 1.
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          • Rocco Jones
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jun 2008
            • 6932

            Re: Round 1 2016 team

            It's going to be interesting to see how the interchange cap influences selections.

            I think it will make playing T Boyd and Redpath together less attractive. At least one of them needs to start being a real danger before we can consider it (unless Boyd becomes our #1 ruck).

            Roughy's ability cover all the tall roles might make him a more attractive prospect meaning we can play another runner.

            Tall defender spots really up from grabs. Hamling, Roberts, Roughy, Adams and Collins. #1 to #5 rank as close as it gets.

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            • Rocco Jones
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jun 2008
              • 6932

              Re: Round 1 2016 team

              Updated side with locks in bold

              B: Wood, Roughy (in due to flexibility), Morris
              HB: M.Boyd, Hamling (as mentioned above, could pick any of our KPDs. Feel Hamling offers better mix), Murphy
              C: Picken, Macrae, Hunter
              HF: Stevens, Stringer, Dahlhaus
              F: Wallis, T.Boyd, Dickson
              R: Minson, Bontempelli, Liberatore
              I/C: Suckling, Johannisen, Biggs, Jong (over Adcock in bigger body role).

              Koby, Wallis, Bonts, Dahl, Hunter, Jong and Suckling give us a good range of players who can rotate in mid/fwd to support with interchange cap.

              Biggs and JJ can do the same with hbf/mid.

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              • Bulldog Joe
                Premiership Moderator
                • Jul 2009
                • 5583

                Re: Round 1 2016 team

                I can't pick a side for Round 1, it is just too hard.

                From our last game we have lost Grant and now Crameri, but to come in we have Suckling (I see him as certain), Libba and Koby who are locks when fit.

                We also have Roughy and Boyd with strong claims and Tommy Campbell as well.

                Then there is the exciting young talent in McLean and Dale, and that is before we consider the new draftees with reports indicating that Dunkley, Collins and Adams could all be in the mix. I haven't even considered Adcock as I see him as more cover for the experienced heads if one of them goes down.

                The NAB games may provide some more clarity, but gee it looks exciting.
                Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                • Rocco Jones
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 6932

                  Re: Round 1 2016 team

                  I think a combo of the sub rule being taken away and the interchange cap will make rucks who can play big minutes massive. Can't just sub off a ruckman anymore.

                  Really value guys who can have a turn in the middle and then at least create a contest up forward. Wallis, Stevens and Dahl massive.

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                  • ledge
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 14337

                    Re: Round 1 2016 team

                    I'm not even going to attempt to name the team, I just look at our list and say to myself this is too bloody hard.
                    Have we ever seen a list where possibly every player could mount an arguement for a game.
                    Could Bevo possibly turn around to Mc Cartney and say my god you make my job hard with this list.
                    Bring back the biff

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                    • boydogs
                      WOOF Member
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 5844

                      Re: Round 1 2016 team

                      Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                      B: Wood, Roughy (in due to flexibility), Morris
                      HB: M.Boyd, Hamling (as mentioned above, could pick any of our KPDs. Feel Hamling offers better mix), Murphy
                      C: Picken, Macrae, Hunter
                      HF: Stevens, Stringer, Dahlhaus
                      F: Wallis, T.Boyd, Dickson
                      R: Minson, Bontempelli, Liberatore
                      I/C: Suckling, Johannisen, Biggs, Jong (over Adcock in bigger body role).
                      This list shows the number of times each player was selected in our 22 by 25 different posters submitting their round 1 side on BF
                      The only differences between your side and the 22 players most frequently selected, is McLean & Roberts in on the interchange for Biggs & Jong

                      1. Suckling 25
                      1. Murphy 25
                      1. Bontempelli 25
                      1. M Boyd 25
                      1. Dahlhaus 25
                      1. Stringer 25
                      1. Wood 25
                      1. Macrae 25
                      1. Dickson 25
                      1. Morris 25
                      1. Picken 25
                      12. Wallis 24
                      12. Hunter 24
                      12. Liberatore 24
                      12. JJ 24
                      16. Hamling 23
                      17. Stevens 22
                      18. T Boyd 20
                      19. Roughead 16
                      19. Minson 16
                      21. McLean 15
                      22. Roberts 14
                      23. Redpath 13
                      24. Adcock 9
                      25. Adams 7
                      26. Biggs 5
                      27. Dale 4
                      28. Collins 3
                      28. Daniel 3
                      30. Cordy 2
                      30. Dunkley 2
                      30. Honeychurch 2
                      30. Jong 2
                      34. Campbell 1
                      34. Webb 1
                      34. Williams 1
                      37. Crameri 0
                      37. Hrovat 0
                      37. C Smith 0
                      37. Hamilton 0
                      37. Prudden 0
                      37. Lynch 0
                      37. R Smith 0
                      37. Goetz 0
                      If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

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                      • Rocco Jones
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 6932

                        Re: Round 1 2016 team

                        Beveridge demonstrated last year that he is very big on rotating players/giving players a go. Last season it meant we were regularly playing a couple of kids each game who weren't really ready to make an impact (great for development though). The list already seems to have more short term depth to it.

                        Adcock, McLean and Daniel all would fit into a good side's 22.

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44697

                          Re: Round 1 2016 team

                          Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                          Beveridge demonstrated last year that he is very big on rotating players/giving players a go. Last season it meant we were regularly playing a couple of kids each game who weren't really ready to make an impact (great for development though). The list already seems to have more short term depth to it.

                          Adcock, McLean and Daniel all would fit into a good side's 22.
                          It's a good point you have raised but I wonder if now that he has had 12 months plus to look at players and more importantly no sub position to ease players into gaining some senior experience he might revert to a more form based selection process?
                          Those youngsters from last season now have another pre-season behind them and they have no doubt gained an even better endurance base. I think the likes of McLean, Webb, Dale and Daniel etc will likely all work a bit harder for their spots in 2016 but we are so fortunate so many of them are right in the mix for the best 22 selection considerations anyway.
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                          • Rocco Jones
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 6932

                            Re: Round 1 2016 team

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            Those youngsters from last season now have another pre-season behind them and they have no doubt gained an even better endurance base. I think the likes of McLean, Webb, Dale and Daniel etc will likely all work a bit harder for their spots in 2016 but we are so fortunate so many of them are right in the mix for the best 22 selection considerations anyway.
                            Yep, with no sub and stronger depth, I think it will be a lot harder for younger players to crack a game. I think we might see players begin rested a bit more, whether that's in the AFL or VFL. We definitely used the sub rule to rest our kids a lot last season. I believe our added depth gives us a good opportunity to really look after players, which Beveridge seems to do anyway.

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                            • Eastdog
                              WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 18298

                              Re: Round 1 2016 team

                              You picked Rocco Wallis to play more in the forward line. Bevo said he will be playing him more there. How do you see that going? Hopefully it's successful like M. Boyd playing more in defence last year. Would you describe Wally like Dahl more of those attacking midfield types.
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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                Re: Round 1 2016 team

                                Trying to pick our sides these days is like Chook Lotto.
                                What a great dilemma to have for the Match Committe knowing that when one foot soldier goes down,
                                another ready made one can seamlessley step into their place

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