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  • Go_Dogs
    Hall of Fame
    • Jan 2007
    • 10166

    Re: Round 1 2016 team

    I've got absolutely no idea what we will do, but I'd be going something like:-

    Morris, Hamling, JJ
    Murphy, Adams, Wood
    Suckling, Wallis, Macrae
    Hunter, Redpath, Stevens
    Stringer, Boyd, Dahl
    Campbell, Bontempelli, Liberatore
    Boyd, Picken, Jong, Daniel
    Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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    • always right
      WOOF Member
      • Nov 2007
      • 4189

      Re: Round 1 2016 team

      Originally posted by Twodogs
      I know it's unbalanced and I will change the team over the next fortnight but here's my 22;
      Morris, Collins, Adams
      Wood, Hamling, Murphy
      JJ, Wallis, Daniel
      Bont, Stringer, Hunter
      Dahl, Boyd, Picken
      Campbell Macrae Libba
      Suckling, Roughead Stevens McLean.

      M. Boyd and Dickson return through Footscray

      Not going to attempt to name emergencies. I agonised over the interchange enough as it is. I've never had to leave out so many blokes who genuinely deserved to play on form.
      Why do you have Boyd returning through Footscray, and from where?

      Do you really think Collins will come in after playing zero minutes on the weekend?
      I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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      • Happy Days
        Hall of Fame
        • May 2008
        • 10155

        Re: Round 1 2016 team

        My 22:

        Morris - Hamling - JJ
        Wood - Adams - Murphy
        Macrae - Wallis - Suckling
        Hunter - Stringer - Stevens
        Dahl - T. Boyd - Dickson
        Campbell - Bont - Libba

        M. Boyd - Picken - Daniel - Biggs

        Most of the mid rotations will come from the forward line. I don't really want Adams to play but it looks like what will happen; Roberts is nowhere near as bad as he's being advertised as - I think there's a fear Taylor Walker took his soul last year.

        Boyd is the second ruck; I've got a sneaking suspicion that he's actually the best ruckman on the list, not that I want him logging bulk minutes there.
        - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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        • azabob
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2008
          • 15335

          Re: Round 1 2016 team

          HD, would you play Roberts ahead of Adams? I think the MC like athletically what Adams brings to the table compared to Roberts.
          More of an In Bruges guy?

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          • F'scary
            WOOF Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 4089

            Re: Round 1 2016 team

            Some issues arising from NAB cup:

            Key backs - still no real certainty who will stop opposition talls the best even though there are 6 candidates for the 2 KPB roles: Roberts, Roughead, Hamling, Collins, Adams, Morris. Expect some turnover during the season, therefore. But there are positives compared to this time last year.

            Defending against the half forward line turnover: in short, about every second shallow forward 50 entry gets repelled for all teams. We just seem a little more brittle than some due to our emphasis on attack.

            Second tall forward: it is starting to look like we will miss Crameri more than we realised when his suspension was announced. Redpath looks like he needs to pick up a bit of form at present - he was playing better in the last 4-6 games of last year.

            Changing of the guard: Matt Boyd was rested extensively in the NAB No Cup. Harbinger? Some here expressed that the venerable Morris looked a bit slower again.

            1st Ruck: injuries and no stand outs.

            Dickson's non-show: what is going on?
            Officially on the Bus-wagon

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            • Happy Days
              Hall of Fame
              • May 2008
              • 10155

              Re: Round 1 2016 team

              Originally posted by azabob
              HD, would you play Roberts ahead of Adams? I think the MC like athletically what Adams brings to the table compared to Roberts.
              I would. I think that Adams' game on the weekend was as much a product of Cloke being on his footballing death bed than anything he did. He won't be given that much liberty in the season proper, and his kicking is still really worrying from non-marked situations. Roberts really came along last year, and I think our team defence is better suited to giving in marking contests (where Adams is probably better) than in general play (where Roberts is probably better).
              - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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              • Mantis
                Hall of Fame
                • Apr 2007
                • 15472

                Re: Round 1 2016 team

                Originally posted by F'scary
                Second tall forward: it is starting to look like we will miss Crameri more than we realised when his suspension was announced. Redpath looks like he needs to pick up a bit of form at present - he was playing better in the last 4-6 games of last year.
                Who said we weren't going to miss Crameri, a lot?

                Absolutely crucial to our structure and his ability to get up and down the ground will be sorely missed.

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                • Bulldog4life
                  WOOF Member
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 9607

                  Re: Round 1 2016 team

                  Originally posted by Happy Days
                  My 22:

                  Morris - Hamling - JJ
                  Wood - Adams - Murphy
                  Macrae - Wallis - Suckling
                  Hunter - Stringer - Stevens
                  Dahl - T. Boyd - Dickson
                  Campbell - Bont - Libba

                  M. Boyd - Picken - Daniel - Biggs

                  Most of the mid rotations will come from the forward line. I don't really want Adams to play but it looks like what will happen; Roberts is nowhere near as bad as he's being advertised as - I think there's a fear Taylor Walker took his soul last year.

                  Boyd is the second ruck; I've got a sneaking suspicion that he's actually the best ruckman on the list, not that I want him logging bulk minutes there.
                  I think Adams will play. He had a game high 7 one-percenters and held Cloke on the weekend.Deserves a chance on NAB form. http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/ne...ts-dogs-v-pies

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                  • Sedat
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 11277

                    Re: Round 1 2016 team

                    Originally posted by Mantis
                    Who said we weren't going to miss Crameri, a lot?

                    Absolutely crucial to our structure and his ability to get up and down the ground will be sorely missed.
                    His gut-running capability both ways was critical to the effectiveness of our multi-faceted forward line, probably even more so than his 30-odd goals. We simply don't have anyone on the list capable of like-for-like replacing him. And if Dickson is under a cloud - he seems to have missed the majority of the NAB Challenge - we lose more goal-scoring power, placing far more pressure on a Stringer than last year. Perhaps we will be reverting to a more traditional forward line structure with both Boyd and Redpath playing together? I'm nervous about this as we will struggle to retain the ball in our forward 50 being so top-heavy.
                    "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                    • azabob
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15335

                      Re: Round 1 2016 team

                      Originally posted by Sedat
                      His gut-running capability both ways was critical to the effectiveness of our multi-faceted forward line, probably even more so than his 30-odd goals. We simply don't have anyone on the list capable of like-for-like replacing him. And if Dickson is under a cloud - he seems to have missed the majority of the NAB Challenge - we lose more goal-scoring power, placing far more pressure on a Stringer than last year. Perhaps we will be reverting to a more traditional forward line structure with both Boyd and Redpath playing together? I'm nervous about this as we will struggle to retain the ball in our forward 50 being so top-heavy.
                      I indicated in the game day thread V Collingwood for the above reasons why Toby McLean is suddenly vital for us. It is a huge ask of a kid who is yet to play 5 AFL games.

                      We really need McLean or Dale to really step up this year inside the forward 50. There was some talk that Dale was going to be that link up player but he seems to have struggled in grabbing his opportunity so far.
                      More of an In Bruges guy?

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                      • Mofra
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 14979

                        Re: Round 1 2016 team

                        Originally posted by Happy Days
                        Boyd is the second ruck; I've got a sneaking suspicion that he's actually the best ruckman on the list, not that I want him logging bulk minutes there.
                        He's certainly the best forward/ruck on the list, and I still think that is the hardest role to fill on an AFL list.
                        He was in my round 1 side and after NAB challenge he's probably in everyone's side now
                        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                        • The Bulldogs Bite
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 11271

                          Re: Round 1 2016 team

                          Originally posted by Sedat
                          His gut-running capability both ways was critical to the effectiveness of our multi-faceted forward line, probably even more so than his 30-odd goals. We simply don't have anyone on the list capable of like-for-like replacing him. And if Dickson is under a cloud - he seems to have missed the majority of the NAB Challenge - we lose more goal-scoring power, placing far more pressure on a Stringer than last year. Perhaps we will be reverting to a more traditional forward line structure with both Boyd and Redpath playing together? I'm nervous about this as we will struggle to retain the ball in our forward 50 being so top-heavy.
                          Yep, it's a real concern but I don't think Dickson's injury is too serious in the long scheme of things. We need him at his best though. Crameri is a massive loss - his second half of the season last year was electric.

                          I really think Koby becomes super important and has to play more forward than we'd have otherside liked.
                          W00F!

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                          • azabob
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 15335

                            Re: Round 1 2016 team

                            Below is my team, not how I think the match committee will go.

                            I'm sure I will cop flack around a few selections, in particular Roughead and maybe McLean. I think Roughead still is our best bet at FB and can help in the ruck as the second ruckman if required.

                            We really need a mid size forward to step up and help take the load off Stringer and kick 1-2 goals a week. Stevens will help in this regard and I think McLean will also.

                            It is going to be tough but we need Liberatore to step back into his inside role sooner rather than later, I think we may struggle with our inside mids in the centre square. It can be a fine line do we want players such as Bontempelli & Macrae winning the ball and dishing out or do we want these players to be second in line to receive the hard ball get and then create?

                            When putting the team together it is evident we have a lot of talent across all lines and competition for spots but we are still a work in progress.

                            It certainly will be very interesting to watch the side evolve of the season like we did in 2015.

                            B: Morris, Roughead, Murphy

                            HB: Wood, Hamling, Johannisen

                            C: Macrae, Bontempelli, Hunter

                            HF: Stevens, Stringer, Dahlhaus

                            F: McLean, T.Boyd, Dickson

                            Ruck: Campbell Wallis Liberatore

                            I/C: Daniel, M.Boyd, Picken, Suckling

                            Emerg: Roberts, Jong, Biggs
                            More of an In Bruges guy?

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66843

                              Re: Round 1 2016 team

                              I think Biggs will, play in round one Aza.
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                              • Cyberdoggie
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 2859

                                Re: Round 1 2016 team

                                Ok, lets have a go at this.

                                At this stage i'm assuming no injuries to Dicko and Campbell.

                                B: Morris, Adams, Murphy

                                HB: Boyd, Wood, Johannisen

                                C: Macrae, Bontempelli, Hunter

                                HF: Stevens, Redpath, Stringer

                                F: Dahlhaus, T.Boyd, Dickson

                                Ruck: Campbell Wallis Liberatore

                                I/C: Jong, Biggs, Picken, Suckling

                                Emerg: McLean, Daniel, Roughead


                                I haven't had a look at Freo's attack yet, not sure if they will be going in tall or what have you.
                                Defense and the second ruck/second tall forward debate are the two queries.

                                I think we may actually go in with 2 tall forwards and a single ruck if Campbell gets up. Redpath will be better value than Roughead and I think this game will be fast and intense and we will need Redpath as more of a hit up forward, using his mobility and lead marking. There will be a bit of open space as the game progresses so it will be decided on who makes less mistakes that end in turnover goals. We may go smaller with Adams in defence based on this. Could be a baptism by fire but I've got a feeling this game will be explosively fast and open and our defenders will be used more for cutting off passes than 1-1 or pack contested situations and will need to be more mobile.
                                Would like to see Daniel in there but I think we need Jong's pace more and he is right to go, ignore the last game against the pies as they had him up forward a lot more.

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