Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

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  • kruder
    Coaching Staff
    • May 2011
    • 3858

    #61
    Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

    Originally posted by 1eyedog
    I'd go for WHE.

    Has a good tank and some wheels and when in form kicks goals. He would be icing on our midfield cake. Plus he's a Sunshine boy so it would be a homecoming of sorts.

    There was talk of him wanting to come home last year. His value will never be as low as it is right now.
    Yeah agree 100%. He hasn't got the body right yet but we need some outside run and his height/reach can be a weapon also. The only query on him does he win enough of his own ball?

    Ahern might also be up for grabs after his knee injury, sounds like he has plenty of talent.

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    • Dancin' Douggy
      WOOF Member
      • Oct 2007
      • 2876

      #62
      Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

      I can't believe anyone here would be chasing Jack Watts. His performance against us was pitiful.
      Not just the raw data, but his body language and lack of intensity throughout the whole game.
      Some cheap goals at the end from hovering out wide on a flank...meh. Then the big fist pump as if he's covered himself in glory when the game was well and truly unsalvageable.

      There were some moments early in the game from him that were just..well...........weak.

      Here is this glorious athlete, big, strong, fast and the number 1 pick.
      Doesn't he have any ego? He never tries to take the game on. Never tries to assert himself.

      He plays like a retired draught horse, not a cocky young stallion.

      I don't like the way the Melbourne crowd booed him but...............geez, he's just so boo-able.

      There was one passage of play early in the game that sums him up for me.

      He's one on one on the boundary on the forward flank.

      The ball comes tumbling towards him, he can easily gather the ball, take on the lone defender, and if he get's a decent disposal away, or better still eludes the defender and breaks clear, Melbourne are looking likely to score a goal.
      Instead, he just lets the ball dribble over the line for a throw in. Helps it over in fact.
      (admittedly the defender was Dale Morris)

      But surely Watts must have an ego that says 'I'm gonna take Morris on, I'm 10 years younger,
      I'm the new kid on the block, I'm gonna show him what I've got in front of my home crowd'
      I"M JACK WATTS I"M NUMBER 1 GODDAMMMNITT!!!! Like Jake Stringer would do.

      But he gives ya nuthin............. just a truckload of meh.

      I saw that and I just thought, this kid has got no fire, no spark, no urge to strut his stuff, just wants to turn up, go through the motions and get paid at the end of the month.

      Wouldn't touch him.
      Last edited by Dancin' Douggy; 20-05-2016, 03:18 PM.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66727

        #63
        Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

        Blues, Saints target key Giants defender


        CARLTON and St Kilda are understood to be among a raft of Victorian clubs eyeing off Greater Western Sydney defender Caleb Marchbank, who is coming out of contract at season's end.

        However AFL.com.au understands the 19-year-old Marchbank is a required player at the Giants who is very much in the emerging club's plans, despite injury restricting him to senior football in just the opening two games of the AFL season.

        story continues here
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        • Happy Days
          Hall of Fame
          • May 2008
          • 10143

          #64
          Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

          Originally posted by bornadog
          Blues, Saints target key Giants defender


          CARLTON and St Kilda are understood to be among a raft of Victorian clubs eyeing off Greater Western Sydney defender Caleb Marchbank, who is coming out of contract at season's end.

          However AFL.com.au understands the 19-year-old Marchbank is a required player at the Giants who is very much in the emerging club's plans, despite injury restricting him to senior football in just the opening two games of the AFL season.

          story continues here
          We should get him for no other reason other than to comprehensively demonstrate to the normies that we pissed in the Boyd trade.
          - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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          • Mofra
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 14954

            #65
            Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

            James Stewart.
            Make an offer for him, if it bumps up GWS' next contract with him by even $1 it would be worth it.
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            • lemmon
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Nov 2008
              • 6522

              #66
              Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

              Originally posted by Mofra
              James Stewart.
              Make an offer for him, if it bumps up GWS' next contract with him by even $1 it would be worth it.
              Yep, he looked great against us a few years back

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              • Axe Man
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 11181

                #67
                Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

                Originally posted by bornadog
                Blues, Saints target key Giants defender


                CARLTON and St Kilda are understood to be among a raft of Victorian clubs eyeing off Greater Western Sydney defender Caleb Marchbank, who is coming out of contract at season's end.

                However AFL.com.au understands the 19-year-old Marchbank is a required player at the Giants who is very much in the emerging club's plans, despite injury restricting him to senior football in just the opening two games of the AFL season.

                story continues here
                Carlton, where rejected GWS recruits go to collect a final pay cheque before they retire.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66727

                  #68
                  Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

                  Originally posted by Axe Man
                  Carlton, where rejected GWS recruits go to collect a final pay cheque before they retire.
                  Aren't they the biggest jokes in recruitment in the AFL.
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                  • 1eyedog
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 13235

                    #69
                    Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

                    Originally posted by kruder
                    Yeah agree 100%. He hasn't got the body right yet but we need some outside run and his height/reach can be a weapon also. The only query on him does he win enough of his own ball?

                    Ahern might also be up for grabs after his knee injury, sounds like he has plenty of talent.
                    With our midfield does he actually need to?
                    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                    • hujsh
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 11841

                      #70
                      Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

                      Originally posted by Axe Man
                      Carlton, where rejected GWS recruits go to collect a final pay cheque before they retire.
                      Speaking of, how do we think Plowman's going? I remember GVGjr being big on him and 'media' seems to think he's doing well.

                      I prefer to get WOOF's thoughts
                      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                      • Twodogs
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27655

                        #71
                        Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

                        Originally posted by Dancin' Douggy
                        I can't believe anyone here would be chasing Jack Watts. His performance against us was pitiful.
                        Not just the raw data, but his body language and lack of intensity throughout the whole game.
                        Some cheap goals at the end from hovering out wide on a flank...meh. Then the big fist pump as if he's covered himself in glory when the game was well and truly unsalvageable.

                        There were some moments early in the game from him that were just..well...........weak.

                        Here is this glorious athlete, big, strong, fast and the number 1 pick.
                        Doesn't he have any ego? He never tries to take the game on. Never tries to assert himself.

                        He plays like a retired draught horse, not a cocky young stallion.

                        I don't like the way the Melbourne crowd booed him but...............geez, he's just so boo-able.

                        There was one passage of play early in the game. He's one on one on the boundary on the forward flank.

                        The ball comes towards him, he can easily gather the ball, take on the lone defender, and if he get's a decent disposal away, or better still eludes the defender and breaks clear, Melbourne are looking likely to score a goal.
                        Instead, he just lets the ball dribble over the line for a throw in. Helps it over in fact.
                        (admittedly the defender was Dale Morris)

                        But surely Watts must have an ego that says 'I'm gonna take Morris on, I'm 10 years younger,
                        I'm the new kid on the block, I'm gonna show him what I've got in front of my home crowd'
                        I"M JACK WATTS I"M NUMBER 1 GODDAMMMNITT!!!! Like Jake Stringer would do.

                        But he gives ya nuthin............. just a truckload of meh.

                        I saw that and I just thought, this kid has got no fire, no spark, no urge to strut his stuff, just wants to turn up, go through the motions and get paid at the end of the month.

                        Wouldn't touch him.

                        Yep. Surely you would think "come on old man" and take him on. You probably won't beat him but if you did you could tell your grandkids about the day you beat Dale Morris one on one.

                        Originally posted by Happy Days
                        We should get him for no other reason other than to comprehensively demonstrate to the normies that we pissed in the Boyd trade.
                        Yep. We need him.

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        Aren't they the biggest jokes in recruitment in the AFL.
                        Richmond.
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • 1eyedog
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 13235

                          #72
                          Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

                          Originally posted by Twodogs
                          Yep. Surely you would think "come on old man" and take him on. You probably won't beat him but if you did you could tell your grandkids about the day you beat Dale Morris one on one.
                          Dale Morris eats Jack Watts cereal in the morning. The best result in that scenario for Jack was to trickle it out of bounds. He may be gutless but he's a smart footballer is Jack.
                          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 44649

                            #73
                            Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

                            Originally posted by Happy Days
                            GVG has been keen on Tomlinson but I just don't see him being big enough for any key post. I think he's very gettable though, and he did have 44 in the seconds on the weekend. If we could get him cheap, maybe we could look to develop him as an "every other Wire album" to Bont's "Pink Flag".

                            I really like Lobb too, who would be perfect for us. Would probably cost too much though.
                            Tomlinson is very unlikely to be available because he has a contract. I was never concerned about his height because at 193cm if you are good enough you will be big enough.

                            There has to be some questions on his durability now so I don't think we would consider trading for him.
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                            • Happy Days
                              Hall of Fame
                              • May 2008
                              • 10143

                              #74
                              Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              Tomlinson is very unlikely to be available because he has a contract. I was never concerned about his height because at 193cm if you are good enough you will be big enough.

                              There has to be some questions on his durability now so I don't think we would consider trading for him.
                              I didn't mean his height, I have doubts over the other aspects of his "bigness". He looks like he's seriously carving the NEAFL playing up the ground anyway.

                              With the Giants looking to shed cash, does it really matter if he's contracted? He can't be happy getting 35 touches every week only to not get picked the next.
                              - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 44649

                                #75
                                Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

                                Originally posted by Happy Days
                                I didn't mean his height, I have doubts over the other aspects of his "bigness". He looks like he's seriously carving the NEAFL playing up the ground anyway.

                                With the Giants looking to shed cash, does it really matter if he's contracted? He can't be happy getting 35 touches every week only to not get picked the next.
                                His contract with GWS 'might' be superior to what we would be prepared to pay so it might come into consideration.
                                The concern is that he probably hasn't made one position his own yet and for us the emergence of Adams and Collins via last years draft would indicate we have addressed any gaps in the back line. With Crameri coming back into our forward line it's probably also cramped.

                                I'd say he is an unlikely target.
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