Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

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  • comrade
    Hall of Fame
    • Jun 2008
    • 17847

    Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

    And how was Hutchy when he said Boyd may still come good, as if it'll be a miracle a 20 year old KP prospect would ever improve.

    I'm not a rose coloured glasses Boyd apologist and have my concerns, but I take umbrage when 3 footy media personalities like Barrett, Hutchy and Caro weigh in. They wouldn't no footy if one hit them in the face. Better off diving in bins.
    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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    • Mantis
      Hall of Fame
      • Apr 2007
      • 15221

      Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

      Originally posted by bornadog
      Boyd won't be back until 'the vibe's right': Beveridge


      Western Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge says Tom Boyd will be available for senior selection "when the vibe's right" following a club suspension for a drunken fight with teammate Zaine Cordy.

      The Bulldogs coach faced a large media pack at his weekly press conference and said the 20-year-old's unreliable shoulder was just as likely to keep him out of Saturday night's clash with Richmond as the indefinite suspension handed to him and Cordy.

      When quizzed on whether the club was trying to cover up the altercation, Beveridge defended his comments regarding Boyd's availability over the past few weeks.

      "There are two things running parallel at the moment, and I don't want go over (the statement) in regards to Tom and Zaine, but it's the shoulder," Beveridge said.

      "So when I said that we've got to be sure with his shoulder, we've got to be sure.

      "As far as any internal sanction goes there's no set time limit on that, it's when the vibe's right really, which isn't ideal."

      Boyd has put his hand up for a senior recall after kicking seven goals in his past two VFL outings in his return from a shoulder injury that hasn't seen him play senior footy since round four.
      I call bullshit on all of that.

      The vibe - this isn't the *!*!*!*!ing Castle.

      And is his shoulder any more likely to cause issues as JJ's hammy or Clay's knees? 4 games after a 6 week injury is ample time to prove he is right to go.

      Treating us like fools.

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      • comrade
        Hall of Fame
        • Jun 2008
        • 17847

        Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

        Originally posted by Mantis
        I call bullshit on all of that.

        The vibe - this isn't the *!*!*!*!ing Castle.

        And is his shoulder any more likely to cause issues as JJ's hammy or Clay's knees? 4 games after a 6 week injury is ample time to prove he is right to go.

        Treating us like fools.
        Where's Darryl Kerrigan?

        Can't understand why we don't just say he's unavailable for another X amount of games due to the Zaine scuffle and be done with it.

        My only thought is if we say the suspension is for another week for example, then we still don't pick him, the scrutiny will be more intense. Who knows?

        The whole handling of it has been pretty shite.
        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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        • Ghost Dog
          WOOF Member
          • May 2010
          • 9404

          Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

          Originally posted by comrade
          And how was Hutchy when he said Boyd may still come good, as if it'll be a miracle a 20 year old KP prospect would ever improve.

          I'm not a rose coloured glasses Boyd apologist and have my concerns, but I take umbrage when 3 footy media personalities like Barrett, Hutchy and Caro weigh in. They wouldn't no footy if one hit them in the face. Better off diving in bins.
          If there was a list of 'bad calls' from these three it would be several times longer on paper than the senate paper on election day.
          You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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          • The Pie Man
            Coaching Staff
            • May 2008
            • 3497

            Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

            Caro killing herself laughing about Barrett going through the club media manager was absurd TV last night.

            BUT - we do continue to conduct ourselves very strangely on this one.

            We do keep winning games though.

            You get the vibe (sorry) that he won't play this week - which would be a shame, as he should come in.
            Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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            • Axe Man
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2008
              • 10906

              Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

              In summing up, it’s the match committee, it’s Mabo, it’s the leadership group, it’s the AFL, it’s the vibe, and…no that’s it…it’s the vibe. I rest my case.
              Dennis Denuto/Luke Beveridge

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              • Ozza
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Mar 2008
                • 6380

                Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

                I think the 'vibe' is whether or not Bevo thinks he should be in the 22, or not - and that's about it.

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                • AndrewP6
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 8142

                  Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

                  I reckon the vibe will be just about cherry ripe by Saturday evening. He'll play.
                  [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                  • Bulldog4life
                    WOOF Member
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 9607

                    Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

                    Originally posted by Ozza
                    I think the 'vibe' is whether or not Bevo thinks he should be in the 22, or not - and that's about it.
                    Yep right on the money Ozza. I have full confidence in our MC to make the right decision.

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                    • BornInDroopSt'54
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 5093

                      Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

                      Good call Andrew. It's hard to read the subtext except that Bevo doesn't want the public to understand the subtext. Good on him as long as he has an agenda that the club is behind and I'm sure they are if they know what's good for them. Hope someone writes a book about this era at the Dogs.
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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

                        Originally posted by AndrewP6
                        I reckon the vibe will be just about cherry ripe by Saturday evening. He'll play.
                        Think also what sort of "vibe" Bevo gets from the playing group especially the Leadership group to when Toyd
                        plays in the seniors again.

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                        • Twodogs
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 27638

                          Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

                          Originally posted by Mantis
                          I call bullshit on all of that.

                          The vibe - this isn't the *!*!*!*!ing Castle.

                          And is his shoulder any more likely to cause issues as JJ's hammy or Clay's knees? 4 games after a 6 week injury is ample time to prove he is right to go.

                          Treating us like fools.
                          Originally posted by comrade
                          Where's Darryl Kerrigan?

                          Can't understand why we don't just say he's unavailable for another X amount of games due to the Zaine scuffle and be done with it.

                          My only thought is if we say the suspension is for another week for example, then we still don't pick him, the scrutiny will be more intense. Who knows?

                          The whole handling of it has been pretty shite.
                          Originally posted by Axe Man
                          In summing up, it’s the match committee, it’s Mabo, it’s the leadership group, it’s the AFL, it’s the vibe, and…no that’s it…it’s the vibe. I rest my case.
                          Dennis Denuto/Luke Beveridge
                          This whole thing has been like a clinic in how not to conduct public relations.

                          The message has been vague. The facts appear to have changed. Each time the club has released a statement the issues have got cloudier. I keep waiting for someone to jump out of a cake and yell "suprise!"
                          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 65650

                            Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

                            This has also put alot of unnecessary pressure on Tom and his family

                            See his interview about a 1min or so in.

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                            • bulldogsthru&thru
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • May 2011
                              • 7659

                              Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

                              Yeah it's really poor from the club - particularly towards its supporters. They're suspended until the "vibe" is right? That's just really really poor. Disappointing. A suspension needs to be clear cut. All this is doing is making it seem like there is more going on behind the scenes.

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                              • AndrewP6
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 8142

                                Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

                                Originally posted by redders70
                                Think also what sort of "vibe" Bevo gets from the playing group especially the Leadership group to when Toyd
                                plays in the seniors again.
                                Maybe they're in favour of him playing? We outsiders just don't know, and I'm fine with that.
                                [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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