Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

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  • merantau
    Coaching Staff
    • May 2015
    • 3937

    Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

    It's disappointing but it's not the end of the world. What will be really disappointing is if Tom does not respond to this by playing his best football, getting back in the team and playing well at the highest level. If this doesn't happen then I'm afraid, that for me, 2016 will go down as a 'Year of Marking Time' for Tom rather than 'A Year of Moving Forward.' But what would really make me angry would be th hear that any team mate is having a crack at Tom about his contract. Because that leads to disunity and to borrow a term from politics: 'Disunity is Death.'
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    • Missing Dog
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8501

      Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

      Great post azabob. Sums it up for me.

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      • Bulldog4life
        WOOF Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 9607

        Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

        The elephant in the room is that we are paying mega bucks to Tom Boyd purely on potential alone and what we hope he will become. Tom is not a rookie player getting paid a nominal salary. We are not paying him on what he has done or what he is doing. It is a huge risk and we applaud the Club for being so bold. But Tom has to knuckle down and do "everything" right by the Club that has set him up for life. Hopefully Tom takes a leaf out of The Bont's book.

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        • SonofScray
          Coaching Staff
          • Apr 2008
          • 4139

          Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

          Originally posted by Bulldog4life
          The elephant in the room is that we are paying mega bucks to Tom Boyd purely on potential alone and what we hope he will become. Tom is not a rookie player getting paid a nominal salary. We are not paying him on what he has done or what he is doing. It is a huge risk and we applaud the Club for being so bold. But Tom has to knuckle down and do "everything" right by the Club that has set him up for life. Hopefully Tom takes a leaf out of The Bont's book.
          This is nit picking to a degree, but what you described is not an "elephant in the room," the Club has taken that action in a considered fashion, understanding the risk. The fans have discussed it ad nauseum. The media bring it up every opportunity. Every action Tom makes is linked to the narrative of risk around his contract. It is an overwhelming feature of discussion.
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          • Bulldog4life
            WOOF Member
            • Oct 2007
            • 9607

            Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

            Originally posted by SonofScray
            This is nit picking to a degree, but what you described is not an "elephant in the room," the Club has taken that action in a considered fashion, understanding the risk. The fans have discussed it ad nauseum. The media bring it up every opportunity. Every action Tom makes is linked to the narrative of risk around his contract. It is an overwhelming feature of discussion.
            We all have different opinions. That is mine SOS.

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            • bulldogsthru&thru
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • May 2011
              • 7659

              Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

              Originally posted by Bulldog4life
              The elephant in the room is that we are paying mega bucks to Tom Boyd purely on potential alone and what we hope he will become. Tom is not a rookie player getting paid a nominal salary. We are not paying him on what he has done or what he is doing. It is a huge risk and we applaud the Club for being so bold. But Tom has to knuckle down and do "everything" right by the Club that has set him up for life. Hopefully Tom takes a leaf out of The Bont's book.
              Yeah the trade and contract seems to look worse day by day. I'm glad we have been able to sign up our young guns but it could still mean we don't have the greatest flexibility that we would like to have in trade and free agency periods. As fans we have been patient, but im not sure a year of no progress can be tolerated for much longer. He's heaped a lot of pressure on himself now. He needs to repay the faith quickly and pull his head in - in regards to his effort and performance.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 65650

                Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

                Originally posted by SonofScray
                This is nit picking to a degree, but what you described is not an "elephant in the room," the Club has taken that action in a considered fashion, understanding the risk. The fans have discussed it ad nauseum. The media bring it up every opportunity. Every action Tom makes is linked to the narrative of risk around his contract. It is an overwhelming feature of discussion.
                Good post SOS.

                I for one, am sick and tired of hearing about his contract and what he is paid, as you say brought up ad nauseum by every journo, supporter and non supporters.

                What I see in Tom is a 20 year old, 200cm number one draft pick, with only 27 games of experience. He is no ordinary 200cm player that is picked because of his height. (hello Ayce) The kid can play, he wasn't number 1 draft pick for nothing. He has shown us glimpses of what he can do, and as he gains experience and confidence, he is going to be one big headache to the opposition.

                This incident happened weeks ago, and he has shown by his attitude playing in the VFL, that it is all behind him now.

                Look forward to seeing Tom in the seniors in the next few weeks.

                PS: Need a dislike button for some of the posts in this thread.
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                • bulldogsthru&thru
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • May 2011
                  • 7659

                  Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  Good post SOS.

                  I for one, am sick and tired of hearing about his contract and what he is paid, as you say brought up ad nauseum by every journo, supporter and non supporters.

                  What I see in Tom is a 20 year old, 200cm number one draft pick, with only 27 games of experience. He is no ordinary 200cm player that is picked because of his height. (hello Ayce) The kid can play, he wasn't number 1 draft pick for nothing. He has shown us glimpses of what he can do, and as he gains experience and confidence, he is going to be one big headache to the opposition.

                  This incident happened weeks ago, and he has shown by his attitude playing in the VFL, that it is all behind him now.

                  Look forward to seeing Tom in the seniors in the next few weeks.

                  PS: Need a dislike button for some of the posts in this thread.
                  I agree. I couldn't care less what people outside the club think so long as internally everyone is ok with it - his contract, his potential, his performance. But when you start to hear that things might not be so great internally, that is a worry. In any case, its all hearsay atm.

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 65650

                    Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

                    Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                    I agree. I couldn't care less what people outside the club think so long as internally everyone is ok with it - his contract, his potential, his performance. But when you start to hear that things might not be so great internally, that is a worry. In any case, its all hearsay atm.
                    Where have you heard that?
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                    • bulldogsthru&thru
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • May 2011
                      • 7659

                      Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Where have you heard that?
                      oh just BF - but from a couple of very reliable posters. I don't want to go into detail here as its just hearsay at the moment, but these posters have been very reliable before. To me, it doesn't add up but i only hear things from watching tv and reading articles like most people!

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                      • Ozza
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 6380

                        Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        Good post SOS.

                        I for one, am sick and tired of hearing about his contract and what he is paid, as you say brought up ad nauseum by every journo, supporter and non supporters.

                        What I see in Tom is a 20 year old, 200cm number one draft pick, with only 27 games of experience. He is no ordinary 200cm player that is picked because of his height. (hello Ayce) The kid can play, he wasn't number 1 draft pick for nothing. He has shown us glimpses of what he can do, and as he gains experience and confidence, he is going to be one big headache to the opposition.

                        This incident happened weeks ago, and he has shown by his attitude playing in the VFL, that it is all behind him now.

                        Look forward to seeing Tom in the seniors in the next few weeks.

                        PS: Need a dislike button for some of the posts in this thread.
                        So anyone who has question marks around Tom and the deal are wrong to talk about it?

                        If another club had done the deal we had with Tom (plus paying a significant portion of Griffen's contract, and giving up a pick 6) - and had gone on to get the same output at this point, and THEN seen the player play 2s and get in the papers for an off field incident - this forum would have plenty of snickering posts about it.

                        Some of the posters here are just taking a more balanced view, than the blind faith of 'Everything's ok - Tom will be great, he was a no.1 pick'.

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                        • dukedog
                          WOOF Member
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 348

                          Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

                          we are to believe anything that comes out of this club ever again ...
                          ...we're going to need hard proof. Cover-ups create lies, which create a bigger problem than the initial problem. And Boyd might even be playing this weekend had there not been an attempted cover-up. Well done, Bevo. -urinal cake

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                          • dukedog
                            WOOF Member
                            • Dec 2014
                            • 348

                            Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

                            The guy has some serious issues. Why the hell is bevo personally at fault for the incident. He needs urinal cakes for his piss mouth.

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                            • Go_Dogs
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 10089

                              Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

                              Predictable.

                              Found it interesting in his earlier article that it was stated Liam Pickering didn't even know about the incident. I guess it just highlights how good we are at keeping things in-house, and indeed, that there can't be much to it. Surely if there was a lot to it, you'd let your agent know and seek advice.
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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 65650

                                Re: Incident involving Tom Boyd and Zaine Cordy - Statement

                                Originally posted by Ozza
                                So anyone who has question marks around Tom and the deal are wrong to talk about it?

                                If another club had done the deal we had with Tom (plus paying a significant portion of Griffen's contract, and giving up a pick 6) - and had gone on to get the same output at this point, and THEN seen the player play 2s and get in the papers for an off field incident - this forum would have plenty of snickering posts about it.

                                Some of the posters here are just taking a more balanced view, than the blind faith of 'Everything's ok - Tom will be great, he was a no.1 pick'.
                                Never said they shouldn't talk about it, just sick of hearing about his contract. His contract and what he is paid has nothing to do with his football ability.
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