Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66695

    Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

    Originally posted by Topdog
    Its just so stupid, the entire system is farcical. Sending out a memo warning they will be more strict on a rule.
    Does any other sport in the world do that
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    • Sedat
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2007
      • 11245

      Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

      I'm sick of the AFEL changing the rules every week. And I'm being generous, they sometime change them in between quarters.

      But it's all incremental content for the AFEL, which is ultimately all they give a shit about. More content = more exposure = more TV rights money
      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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      • EasternWest
        Hall of Fame
        • Aug 2009
        • 10002

        Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

        Originally posted by Sedat
        I'm sick of the AFEL changing the rules every week. And I'm being generous, they sometime change them in between quarters.

        But it's all incremental content for the AFEL, which is ultimately all they give a shit about. More content = more exposure = more TV rights money
        But more money means more strobe lights. And how can that be bad? Stop whinging.
        "It's over. It's all over."

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44631

          Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

          If there was a (one) rule change over the last few years you could either abolish, amend or roll back what would it be?

          For me it's for teams having to nominate someone to do the ruck duties for the throw-ins and ball ups.
          Surely the umpire doesn't need to be checking for this and if a 3rd player enters the contest then it's a free against that team.
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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66695

            Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            If there was a (one) rule change over the last few years you could either abolish, amend or roll back what would it be?

            For me it's for teams having to nominate someone to do the ruck duties for the throw-ins and ball ups.
            Surely the umpire doesn't need to be checking for this and if a 3rd player enters the contest then it's a free against that team.
            Too hard to nominate one
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            • Sedat
              Hall of Fame
              • Sep 2007
              • 11245

              Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              If there was a (one) rule change over the last few years you could either abolish, amend or change what would it be?

              For me it's for teams having to nominate someone to do the ruck duties for the throw-ins and ball ups.
              Surely the umpire doesn't need to be checking for this and if a 3rd player enters the contest then it's a free against that team.
              Prior opportunity - Paul Roos killed the modern game with his shithouse stoppage/tackling heavy game plan 20 years ago because of the stupid interpretation by the rules committee at the time to allow ridiculous latitude to players to get rid of the ball under the misguided obsession with prior opportunity - all this did was create massive congestion and greatly increased stoppages/tackling, and made the game unwatchable and frankly rubbish.

              And because of this shit rule, so many other rules have had to be modified/tweaked/altered when the solution is just to get rid of prior opportunity. It's really simple - if you get the ball and don't dispose of it correctly, you're gone. Smart players will tap the ball on and keep it in motion if they are under the pump and about to be tackled. Then the onus is on the tackler to be just as smart and tackle correctly only when player is in possession, or they will concede a free kick. And the onus is on the player with/about to get the ball to use it or lose it.

              I hate prior opportunity.
              "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66695

                Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                Originally posted by Sedat
                Prior opportunity - Paul Roos killed the modern game with his shithouse stoppage/tackling heavy game plan 20 years ago because of the stupid interpretation by the rules committee at the time to allow ridiculous latitude to players to get rid of the ball under the misguided obsession with prior opportunity - all this did was create massive congestion and greatly increased stoppages/tackling, and made the game unwatchable and frankly rubbish.

                And because of this shit rule, so many other rules have had to be modified/tweaked/altered when the solution is just to get rid of prior opportunity. It's really simple - if you get the ball and don't dispose of it correctly, you're gone. Smart players will tap the ball on and keep it in motion if they are under the pump and about to be tackled. Then the onus is on the tackler to be just as smart and tackle correctly only when player is in possession, or they will concede a free kick. And the onus is on the player with/about to get the ball to use it or lose it.

                I hate prior opportunity.
                Couldn't agree more. Players have now learnt to grab the ball just as they are about to be tackled and force the stoppage. It is a real art the way they do it.
                FFC: Established 1883

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                • jeemak
                  Bulldog Legend
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 21817

                  Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                  I don't like abolishing prior opportunity, you'll just have players sitting off waiting for someone else to grab it and then ping them with far superior tackling techniques compared to those that existed twenty years ago. A more strict interpretation of prior opportunity wouldn't go astray, however.

                  Umpires should just call a ball up much more quickly and not await nomination for a ruck contest. To me that finds the balance between improved tackling techniques, needing to give the ball player a chance and keeping the game moving.

                  Also, the ridiculous nature of the over the shoulder, lowering the body and shrugging the shoulders interpretation makes the game a laughing stock. Players need to adjust body height to change direction, so unless leading with the head a tackle that slips high/ above the shoulders should be penalised - no matter how it slips above the shoulders. It's illogical that using your legs to break a tackle and make it slip below the knees is treated differently than using your arms to break a tackle and make it slip above the shoulders. A simpler interpretation here would result in tackles being aimed at the waist again, arms freeing up, and handballs clearing congestion.
                  TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                  • Happy Days
                    Hall of Fame
                    • May 2008
                    • 10139

                    Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                    Abolishing third man up was and is totally inconsistent with every other rule change that has been brought in since with the intention of speeding the game up.
                    - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                    • Topdog
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 7471

                      Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                      Stand statue still

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                      • mjp
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 7363

                        Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                        Originally posted by Topdog
                        Stand statue still
                        Can I like this twice.

                        We've seriously turned into gerbils with this rule!
                        What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                        • jeemak
                          Bulldog Legend
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 21817

                          Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                          Originally posted by Topdog
                          Stand statue still
                          GVG asked for one so I went with a couple in the same area, but this is next cab off the rank.
                          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                          • Topdog
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 7471

                            Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                            Originally posted by mjp
                            Can I like this twice.

                            We've seriously turned into gerbils with this rule!
                            Even from a viewing perspective it just looks outright stupid. Everyone around them, including the player who marked the ball moves and 1 guy just stands there dead still unable to move. Insanity

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                            • jeemak
                              Bulldog Legend
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 21817

                              Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                              Originally posted by Topdog
                              Even from a viewing perspective it just looks outright stupid. Everyone around them, including the player who marked the ball moves and 1 guy just stands there dead still unable to move. Insanity
                              You're forgetting that Steve Hocking's a genius and virtually saved the game with it. According to media experts on Ch7.
                              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 66695

                                Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                                Originally posted by jeemak
                                I don't like abolishing prior opportunity, you'll just have players sitting off waiting for someone else to grab it and then ping them with far superior tackling techniques compared to those that existed twenty years ago. A more strict interpretation of prior opportunity wouldn't go astray,
                                I don't agree. Instead of the player grabbing the ball, they will tap it on, or punch, or use superior skills to elude the tackler.

                                The players are now playing for a stoppage because some teams (Dogs) are very good at stoppages.
                                FFC: Established 1883

                                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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