Injury List - Preseason 2017

[GVGjr]

Re: Injury List - Preseason 2017

English looked very impressive today in the intraclub . Ball use and movement for a kid that tall is quite a weapon

It possible he might get some limited time in the ruck but I tend to think we will resist the temptation and allow him to play elsewhere.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Injury List - Preseason 2017

Tom Boyd will be number one ruck.

I understand pinch hitting him in the ruck. But you don't drive a Rolls Royce to the shops in more dangerous conditions. To really hurt teams he needs to be within goal scoring distance for marks, like his first two in the GF. I'd consider Trav as a hybrid fill in ruckman.

[Bornadog]

Re: Injury List - Preseason 2017

I understand pinch hitting him in the ruck. But you don't drive a Rolls Royce to the shops in more dangerous conditions. To really hurt teams he needs to be within goal scoring distance for marks, like his first two in the GF. I'd consider Trav as a hybrid fill in ruckman.

No way that will happen. If Campbell doesn't come up, then Boyd will ruck. Support may come from Cordy, or maybe Travis.

[chef]

Re: Injury List - Preseason 2017

Boyds a ruckman, i dont get the issue.

[dukedog]

Re: Injury List - Preseason 2017

I dont see the problem with giving some game time in pre season games to English. Why wouldnt you see how he goes.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Injury List - Preseason 2017

Boyds a ruckman, i dont get the issue.

I don't see him as a first ruck, and don't want him spending too much time rucking. He's tall and strong, so he's going to be OK as a ruck. Buddy Franklin is quick and an elite field kick, but he's not a midfielder. Boyd through his career from 15yo has a goal kicking accuracy of over 70%, that's as Dwayne would say 'crazy good' and better than Lockett & Dunstall. If he can keep clunking contested marks, but with the majority inside 50 then we are potentially going to see big numbers from Tom, even pinch hitting as the second ruckman. But I wouldn't classify him a ruckman and would do as much as possible to make sure he's not spending too much time in the ruck, especially being the main ruck.

It's worth remembering that last year Bevo said that Roughy, Campbell, Redders & Boyd could and would spend time together in the side. I know a bit has changed from the PF & GF, but a 203cm, 100+kg, contested marking young gun who also kicks at over 70% at goal almost never come along. Hence, I argue he should spend as much time forward as he can within the gameplan, being just relief and forward 50 ruckman. We've got Trav to do the yards up the ground to be the big fella to kick to. I'd rather Boyd have the set shots than Trav as a general rule. I don't mind seeing English either, especially against GCS, if Campbell is out.

[Mantis]

Re: Injury List - Preseason 2017

I don't see him as a first ruck, and don't want him spending too much time rucking. He's tall and strong, so he's going to be OK as a ruck. Buddy Frankling is quick and an elite field kick, but he's not a midfielder. Boyd through his career from 15yo has a goal kicking accuracy of over 70%, that's as Dwayne would say 'crazy good' and better than Lockett & Dunstall. If he can keep clunking contested marks, but with the majority inside 50 then we are potentially going to see big numbers from Tom, even pinch hitting as the second ruckman. But I wouldn't classify him a ruckman and would do as much as possible to make sure he's not spending too much time in the ruck, especially being the main ruck. It's worth remembering that last year Bevo said that Roughy, Campbell, Redders & Boyd could and would spend time together in the side. I know a bit has changed from the PF & GF, but a 203cm, 100+kg, contested marking young gun who also kicks at over 70% at goal almost never come along. Hence, I argue he should spend as much time forward as he can within the gameplan, being just relief and forward 50 ruckman. We've got Trav to do the yards up the ground to be the big fella to kick to. I'd rather Boyd have the set shots than Trav as a general rule. I don't mind seeing English either, especially against GCS, if Campbell is out.

A paragraph here or there wouldn't go astray... All I see is a wall of text.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Injury List - Preseason 2017

A paragraph here or there wouldn't go astray... All I see is a wall of text.

Apologies.

[chef]

Re: Injury List - Preseason 2017

I don't see him as a first ruck, and don't want him spending too much time rucking. He's tall and strong, so he's going to be OK as a ruck. Buddy Franklin is quick and an elite field kick, but he's not a midfielder. Boyd through his career from 15yo has a goal kicking accuracy of over 70%, that's as Dwayne would say 'crazy good' and better than Lockett & Dunstall. If he can keep clunking contested marks, but with the majority inside 50 then we are potentially going to see big numbers from Tom, even pinch hitting as the second ruckman. But I wouldn't classify him a ruckman and would do as much as possible to make sure he's not spending too much time in the ruck, especially being the main ruck.

It's worth remembering that last year Bevo said that Roughy, Campbell, Redders & Boyd could and would spend time together in the side. I know a bit has changed from the PF & GF, but a 203cm, 100+kg, contested marking young gun who also kicks at over 70% at goal almost never come along. Hence, I argue he should spend as much time forward as he can within the gameplan, being just relief and forward 50 ruckman. We've got Trav to do the yards up the ground to be the big fella to kick to. I'd rather Boyd have the set shots than Trav as a general rule. I don't mind seeing English either, especially against GCS, if Campbell is out.

I just dont see him as a KPF. To me hes a ruck who will roam and that is when hes at his most dangerous.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Injury List - Preseason 2017

I just dont see him as a KPF. To me hes a ruck who will roam and that is when hes at his most dangerous.

Book mark it and we can review it in 2029

[Eastdog]

Re: Injury List - Preseason 2017

No way that will happen. If Campbell doesn't come up, then Boyd will ruck. Support may come from Cordy, or maybe Travis.

On the 7 sports report tonight they said it shouldn't be serious.

[Eastdog]

Re: Injury List - Preseason 2017

Boyds a ruckman, i dont get the issue.

It stems from the fact that we recruited him more for the purposes of being a full forward but yes he can play ruck as well.

[chef]

Re: Injury List - Preseason 2017

It stems from the fact that we recruited him more for the purposes of being a full forward but yes he can play ruck as well.

He'd be wasted at FF(is that still a position?). He needs to be able to roam.

[Eastdog]

Re: Injury List - Preseason 2017

He'd be wasted at FF(is that still a position?). He needs to be able to roam.

Yes its not really a bad thing. Players nowadays need to play multiple roles. Bonti midfielder but can drift forward.

[GVGjr]

Re: Injury List - Preseason 2017

I just dont see him as a KPF. To me hes a ruck who will roam and that is when hes at his most dangerous.

Drafted as a key forward, played as a key forward so I assume it's his two games in the finals that changed your view?