Who would you have JMac target this year?

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  • kruder
    Coaching Staff
    • May 2011
    • 3768

    Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

    Originally posted by Bulldog4life
    He is currently on $600,000 a year.

    Yeah I know and is not getting a game. Its ridiculous to pay 600k for a player who may not be in your best 22 there is obviously serious question marks against him.
    Last edited by GVGjr; 02-09-2017, 09:54 PM. Reason: quote error fixed

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44190

      Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

      Originally posted by kruder
      Yeah I know and is not getting a game. Its ridiculous to pay 600k for a player who may not be in your best 22 there is obviously serious question marks against him.
      In today's environment you pay significantly more for players without question marks
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      • Rocket Science
        Coaching Staff
        • Oct 2007
        • 4849

        Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

        Speaking of question marks ...

        In an alternate universe might the club entertain a pitch for Paddy McCartin?

        I know. I know! But thinking out loud.

        - We have an obvious need for talented natural forwards who can take a contested mark.
        - His age fits our core.
        - St.Kilda may be nearing wits end with him, with sapping patience and an eye on dwindling future returns. If they could flip him for something of value to them, would they listen?
        - Some on our end might surmise he couldn't possibly endure more of the same wretched run he's had, surely. A new environment that diffuses the pressure of his draft position and swelling sense of disappointment might be good for him.

        It'd be a breathtaking gamble of course. One I think carries far more risk than is sensible for any suitor. But would the club? And what would we be prepared to pay in return?
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        • azabob
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2008
          • 15195

          Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

          My biggest concern with McCartin is his head knocks and ability to stay on the park.
          More of an In Bruges guy?

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          • Rocket Science
            Coaching Staff
            • Oct 2007
            • 4849

            Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

            Originally posted by azabob
            My biggest concern with McCartin is his head knocks and ability to stay on the park.
            No question, I'd be highly leery as well. But if the bulk of his bad luck's behind him and he can be grabbed at a reduced rate for a 1st overall pick, the potential rewards might be pretty attractive for a club like ours.
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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 65964

              Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

              Originally posted by Rocket Science
              No question, I'd be highly leery as well. But if the bulk of his bad luck's behind him and he can be grabbed at a reduced rate for a 1st overall pick, the potential rewards might be pretty attractive for a club like ours.
              Could he be switched to a CHB role?
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              • Twodogs
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 27654

                Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                Originally posted by azabob
                My biggest concern with McCartin is his head knocks and ability to stay on the park.

                The head knocks are a big concern and I'm also concerned about his diabetes. I can't think of too many really great players who also suffered from diabetes, Dale Weightman being the only example I can think of although I'm sure there are others.

                My point being diabetes is a chronic disease that can cause all sorts of allied health problems. And although we have made breakthroughs in testing and treatment and administration of insulin I'd still be wary.

                PS, I don't mean to upset or demean anyone suffering from diabetes. It's a terrible illness that is rife through my own family.
                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                • Rocket Science
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 4849

                  Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  Could he be switched to a CHB role?
                  That sounds just like something Bevo would do with a dedicated forward.

                  Interesting question. Perhaps, if he could build more aerobic capacity, but with his sticky hands, leading ability and forward craft I'd be loath to recruit a type we're crying out for only to chuck him down the other end of the park.
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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34316

                    Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                    Originally posted by Twodogs
                    The head knocks are a big concern and I'm also concerned about his diabetes. I can't think of too many really great players who also suffered from diabetes, Dale Weightman being the only example I can think of although I'm sure there are others.

                    My point being diabetes is a chronic disease that can cause all sorts of allied health problems. And although we have made breakthroughs in testing and treatment and administration of insulin I'd still be wary.

                    PS, I don't mean to upset or demean anyone suffering from diabetes. It's a terrible illness that is rife through my own family.
                    A health professional of mine had a son play all his juniors with Paddy was best friends with Paddy's parents. Now obviously she could not disclosure sensitive info, suffice to say his Diabetes is not even a remote concern for Paddy and playing football at any level. It's believed the it was started as a bad rumour at draft time to get him to slide past the first selection. But it didn't work.

                    With Riewoldt gone, surely he backs himself in to take that spot surely?
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                    • ledge
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 14088

                      Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                      A health professional of mine had a son play all his juniors with Paddy was best friends with Paddy's parents. Now obviously she could not disclosure sensitive info, suffice to say his Diabetes is not even a remote concern for Paddy and playing football at any level. It's believed the it was started as a bad rumour at draft time to get him to slide past the first selection. But it didn't work.

                      With Riewoldt gone, surely he backs himself in to take that spot surely?
                      Sounds like he is extremely lazy then. Apart from the head knocks.
                      Bring back the biff

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                      • Avoid the rush
                        WOOF Member
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 125

                        Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                        Can't believe I am saying this let alone writing it but ........I have a real liking for big Cox! Yes that's right I reckon Mason Cox would be a great get for our club. (NO I did not mispell it) Imagine getting first use of the ball in the middle. Ah yes halcyon days indeed. Wynd Dempsey etc. (MEMORIES) Roughie could float around on big blokes, Toyd could play in the FORWARD line and when Cox was resting forward, imagine Tory Zarsoff, Bonty, Del, String at the drop. He has such a big upside as well and since 3rd man up was removed we have lacked badly in this department. Amongst my colleauges I am a man alone, but what do you guys think????

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44190

                          Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                          Originally posted by Avoid the rush
                          Can't believe I am saying this let alone writing it but ........I have a real liking for big Cox! Yes that's right I reckon Mason Cox would be a great get for our club. (NO I did not mispell it) Imagine getting first use of the ball in the middle. Ah yes halcyon days indeed. Wynd Dempsey etc. (MEMORIES) Roughie could float around on big blokes, Toyd could play in the FORWARD line and when Cox was resting forward, imagine Tory Zarsoff, Bonty, Del, String at the drop. He has such a big upside as well and since 3rd man up was removed we have lacked badly in this department. Amongst my colleauges I am a man alone, but what do you guys think????
                          I think he might be someone we have an interest in. He's a bit better up forward than most ruckman but won't get the time he needs as a ruckman behind Grundy. He could possible form a decent combination with Boyd.

                          I'd need a little bit of convincing but it has some merit if we can't get Martin.
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                          • Topdog
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 7471

                            Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                            If Cox was Australian no one would know who he is. Rubbish.

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                            • always right
                              WOOF Member
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 4189

                              Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                              Cox has just about the worst hands in the VFL.
                              I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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                              • Remi Moses
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 14785

                                Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                                Cox is shocking when the ball hits the ground as well .

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