Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

[Mantis]

Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

We have enough players in the backline to cover the back half.

Roberts, Wood, MBoyd, Suckling, Biggs, Murphy, JJ and Cordy for starters.

We have enough players who can play in defence, but do we have the right mix?

[1eyedog]

Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

In- Adams, Campbell

Out- Morris (inj), Daniel

Need Adams for defensive flexibility, although I've serious reservations about his recent form. Boyd plays his best footy in a mix of ruck and forward, he was largely ineffective as a full time ruckman, and Campbell can play a mix of ruck and forward too. Cloke to play higher up the ground as he did Firday night.

Daniel was terrible Friday and his last 3 games at AFL level have been a mix of average to poor. His disposal under real pressure is a concern.

JLT games? he's got enough credits in the bank to have an average preseason and a slow round 1 start. Revisit last year's Elimination Final, Second Semi Final and Prelim if you have any doubts. Actually his 3rd last game in anger was the EF and he was excellent.

Adams was like a rabbit in the headlights in the JLT. He would have to have improved dramatically since then to warrant selection.
I would retain Daniel without hesitation.

Calls for Daniel to be dropped are real head scratches.

[Sedat]

Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

In- Adams, Campbell

Out- Morris (inj), Daniel

Need Adams for defensive flexibility, although I've serious reservations about his recent form. Boyd plays his best footy in a mix of ruck and forward, he was largely ineffective as a full time ruckman, and Campbell can play a mix of ruck and forward too. Cloke to play higher up the ground as he did Firday night.

Daniel was terrible Friday and his last 3 games at AFL level have been a mix of average to poor. His disposal under real pressure is a concern.

Reckon if we go in one mid short against the Swans we'll get punished by their mids. Not too many teams in the comp where I'd go two lumbering rucks plus Cloke and definitely not against this week's opponent.

[merantau]

Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

Morris' injury is a real blow magnified by Hamling's move west. I don't think any team has a single individual who can blanket Franklin so we shouldn't fret too much about that. The key is pressuring the ball carrier so they can't give him silver service and trying to get him playing up the ground as far away from the goals as possible. I'm confident we have the personel to beat them again. Looking forward to it.

[1eyedog]

Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

Morris' injury is a real blow magnified by Hamling's move west. I don't think any team has a single individual who can blanket Franklin so we shouldn't fret too much about that. The key is pressuring the ball carrier so they can't give him silver service and trying to get him playing up the ground as far away from the goals as possible. I'm confident we have the personel to beat them again. Looking forward to it.

I doubt Grundy will be clunking them in the back half like he did in the Granny with Cloke to mind and that is Cloke's real value.

[Axe Man]

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Dane Rampe tripped over this morning and broke his arm, no word as to whether Jordan De Goeys dog was responsible!

He was good in the grand final and evens up the loss of Morris a bit. Although they have a decent replacement in Aliir Aliir ready to go.

[always right]

Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

Rampe did an excellent job on Stringer in the GF. Big challenge for the Swans to find a matchup for him. He was pretty good against the Pies and hopefully returns to his best this Friday.

[Ozza]

Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

Rampe is one of the best defenders in the competition - which evens us up for the Morris loss.

[Bornadog]

Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

We have enough players who can play in defence, but do we have the right mix?

You are probably right we don't have the ideal mix, but not much we can do about it until Cordy grows up abit ie puts on some weight and strength and adds experience to his 12 games.

[Greystache]

Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

JLT games? he's got enough credits in the bank to have an average preseason and a slow round 1 start. Revisit last year's Elimination Final, Second Semi Final and Prelim if you have any doubts. Actually his 3rd last game in anger was the EF and he was excellent.



Calls for Daniel to be dropped are real head scratches.

No, I'm talking about his last 3 AFL game- being the Prelim, GF, and round 1. He went at 50% in the prelim final and was caught out by the extra pressure a number of times, one or two good moments didn't make up for that. He struggled badly in the GF, then again in round 1. I don't put too much stock into the JLT but he wasn't good then either and that was enough of a form line for Smith and Dunkley to be left out.

[Cyberdoggie]

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No, I'm talking about his last 3 AFL game- being the Prelim, GF, and round 1. He went at 50% in the prelim final and was caught out by the extra pressure a number of times, one or two good moments didn't make up for that. He struggled badly in the GF, then again in round 1. I don't put too much stock into the JLT but he wasn't good then either and that was enough of a form line for Smith and Dunkley to be left out.

Was pretty good in the elimination final, hasn't he also had a shoulder reconstruction or operation over the pre-season?

[LostDoggy]

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We lose a warrior in Morris so lets bring the next best/fittest in as we did last year. For me that is Dunks or Smith.

I would not drop Caleb Daniel.

[1eyedog]

Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

No, I'm talking about his last 3 AFL game- being the Prelim, GF, and round 1. He went at 50% in the prelim final and was caught out by the extra pressure a number of times, one or two good moments didn't make up for that. He struggled badly in the GF, then again in round 1. I don't put too much stock into the JLT but he wasn't good then either and that was enough of a form line for Smith and Dunkley to be left out.

Fair enough. 24 touches, three i50s and a goal was his Prelim game. Top 6 in AFL fantasy and Supercoach and scored 7/10 for his match by media pundits. Better than Libbba, Biggs, same as McLean and others. Quiet last week and in the Granny but I expect him to bounce back.

[Throughandthrough]

Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

Someone just told me the last time we won 6 in a row was 1985

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

Ins and outs from the Grand Final

In- Cloke, Suckling, Crameri, Adams. Murphy
Out- Hamling, Morris, Dickson, Roughy, Clay

- Cloke replaces Zaine up forward and Zaine replaces Hamling/Morris down back. Cloke also takes 2nd ruck duties which covers a bit for Roughy
- Crameri replaces Dickson. Crameri can play a bit taller, which goes someway in covering for Tom Boyd playing in the ruck (as does Cloke being more of a power forward than Zaine)

We lose out a bit on the ruck but I don't think at this stage it is worth playing Campbell, Tom Boyd and Cloke. Campbell really needs to be cherry ripe with one of Boyd or Cloke firing. Too big a risk carrying them vs such a gun mid.

Suckling and Murphy = 2 'defenders' for Morris, so we have more 'defenders' however we are still short one who can take on the tall Swans forwards (Reid > Xavier). Biggs could make way but i think he is kind of symbolic of the way we go about it in Bevo's eyes. Anyway, we saw JJ rotate between HB/HF as well as Bob at times. Adams needs to come in for me. Clay misses from GF day with his HF/runner spot take by the added HB/HF rotations.

It kinda balances out. So to make it less clear as mud, from last week
In- Adams, Dunkley,
Out- Morris, Jong