Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

[jeemak]

Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

What I saw was us getting our 2016 game back in the 1st half. Dominating field position, locking it in our forward half for repeat entries, getting our handball chain game going. Pressuring Adelaide on the ball. Double the clearances, big I50 and CP differential.

We need to review what went right in the 1st half and how it completely fell apart in the 2nd half.

Sedat I loved what I saw in the first half.

I also saw a stat that showed how dominant our third quarters have been, whilst others have been negative throughout the season. What does that tell you about our season and about tonight's game?

It tells me we put all of our effort into the first half.

We're not fit enough and strong enough compared to the competition this year.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

Just saw great bloke top guy Walker's cowardly effort on JJ.
Apparently if you're a top bloke it's ok to do that .
Pathetic from the players in not giving top bloke great guy tex a hard time after the event .

[Hotdog60]

Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

What got me was the umpire telling the players to watch the replay.
Well I just watch the replay and the ball was well passed the post when Walker pushed him into the post.
I hate the channel 7 commentators, I could punch someone in the head and say sorry afterwards but does that change the intent.

[Twodogs]

Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

What got me was the umpire telling the players to watch the replay.
Well I just watch the replay and the ball was well passed the post when Walker pushed him into the post.
I hate the channel 7 commentators, I could punch someone in the head and say sorry afterwards but does that change the intent.

Dunno the answer to that one. Let's try it with a channel 7 commentater and find out.

[Bornadog]

Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

Dunno the answer to that one. Let's try it with a channel 7 commentater and find out.

Start with Ling

[EasternWest]

Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

What got me was the umpire telling the players to watch the replay.
Well I just watch the replay and the ball was well passed the post when Walker pushed him into the post.
I hate the channel 7 commentators, I could punch someone in the head and say sorry afterwards but does that change the intent.

I actually think that was Easton Wood saying "watch the replay" and the umpire responded with something like "you watch it, I'll watch the game".

[S Coast Simon]

Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

It feels like there is something going on behind the walls a bulldog land. It might have something to do with JJ and his contract. The boys don't really seem to be standing up for him. The last few weeks and the bump from Tex. the boys gave a half arsed response to one of our boys be smashed. I feel like they are dirty with him holding the club to ransom over his contract. Sign on for reasonable money and get on with it. Stringer and JJ don't seem to be best buds anymore since Stringers separation.

[EasternWest]

Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

Too right they do they're a bunch of kids and will be better for it. Our season ended last week and you're disappointed like the rest if us but talking about offloading Hunter, Stringer et. al. is very reactive.

Ay Caramba.

Again, I will explain that I am just messing around re trading. I thought the ridiculousness of what I suggested spoke for itself.

I can't agree with you that the players get a leave pass for what they gave us. I'm not arguing with your opinion - I understand completely why you hold it - I just disagree. I'll forever love 2016, but these professional athletes had to front up again next year and for whatever reason they are not where they were/should be.

Funnily enough, I feel like we're actually not that far away (as we saw in the first half last night), but when we're off we're miles off.

Anyway, I'm not trying to start an argument with you - I respect your contribution here as always - maybe we just have different philosophical viewpoints on it.

[Go_Dogs]

Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

They're also allowed to shepherd in marking contests apparently.

Couple of obvious ones were missed, right at the start Wood got blocked out of competing in a contest which set the scene for what would follow. What upsets me is our forwards lack the nous to do this - no one is blocking, creating space, working together.

Fletcher Roberts has embarrassed himself and should be ashamed. Pathetic effort on the wing, worst of the season.

Was a poor effort. Had to keep his feet and stay in the contest, but at the first opportunity went down. The Crows handled the slippery conditions better than us, so gathered cleanly and off they went...

I'm a little unsure on Roberts' role at the moment, although Jenkins is a tough match up. Roberts lacks speed and strength, so he struggles on the lead and in the wrestle and got out-pointed frequently.

Weird game. It feels like we're actually winning the contest, but they're so much cleaner.

A lot of comments later in the thread around this too, Jeemak's pretty accurate.

We were OK around the contest, but the Crows set the ground up and we couldn't get the right exit kick in transition, and every time they moved the ball they seemed to have space and time to make little 45 degree kicks and get the overlap. The uncontested mark stat is damning and shows our skills are poor, our offensive run is down and we can't close out the field and create 50/50's defensively.

The apologist thugs are making excuses for him. The ball was past the contest and he clearly pushed him towards the post and in the back.

*!*!*!*!ing disgraceful.

Poorly umpired and Tex deserves a whack for it, too.



To finish on some positives:-

McLean played his best game for the club and is growing in confidence as a midfielder. This adds to our mix.

Bontempelli played his best game for a while

Macrae keeps on keeping on. Yes, he has a few limitations, but he's an important part of our side and one who usually always finds a way to impact the game.

Zaine Cordy and Bailey Dale are 10 year players.

[The Adelaide Connection]

Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

Well, that was a tough old night in the end.

*Puts on magical optimism cape*

Things I took out of it:
-Great first half as mentioned. Really quite dominant and if we could capitalise I think it would have gone the same way as the Melbourne game I saw here. Much like we did last night, Crows implode when they get a few goals down.

-The Richmond game. They played one good quarter and then got even more smashed than we did. There is a way back from this, a hard way, and maybe this (more so than the WC close one) can be the galvanising, look super hard into the mirror, season changing one.

-I have said it before, the umpiring at grounds with non-bipartisan crowds is just another reason that those home clubs rarely drop games and needs to be looked at. It is not corruption, it is psychology. Any 50-50 free is going to be paid when you have 40,000 people in your ear and much less likely when there is no one calling for it. Worse, the dubious ones also get paid. A handful of these at the wrong time can turn a game.

-Crows, like Geelong in Geelong, are very hard to beat at home (see above) and are probably the best team in the comp with next to no injuries.

-Any team that found themselves more than three or four goals down tonight was going to likely get belted. Once the Crows skipped ahead they relaxed and were able to play on their terms while the pressure of trying to play catchups manifested into nervey, mistake ridden footy for us.

-All is not lost. Seriously, we are likely still only going to be one game out of the eight and have an "easier" draw than those around the mark. It sucks we are not the all conquering, dominant ex-premier type at the moment but in another not so long ago era a sniff of finals would fill us with hope. Backs to the wall is how our club was made. This isn't over.

[1eyedog]

Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

Well, that was a tough old night in the end.

*Puts on magical optimism cape*

Things I took out of it:
-Great first half as mentioned. Really quite dominant and if we could capitalise I think it would have gone the same way as the Melbourne game I saw here. Much like we did last night, Crows implode when they get a few goals down.

-The Richmond game. They played one good quarter and then got even more smashed than we did. There is a way back from this, a hard way, and maybe this (more so than the WC close one) can be the galvanising, look super hard into the mirror, season changing one.

-I have said it before, the umpiring at grounds with non-bipartisan crowds is just another reason that those home clubs rarely drop games and needs to be looked at. It is not corruption, it is psychology. Any 50-50 free is going to be paid when you have 40,000 people in your ear and much less likely when there is no one calling for it. Worse, the dubious ones also get paid. A handful of these at the wrong time can turn a game.

-Crows, like Geelong in Geelong, are very hard to beat at home (see above) and are probably the best team in the comp with next to no injuries.

-Any team that found themselves more than three or four goals down tonight was going to likely get belted. Once the Crows skipped ahead they relaxed and were able to play on their terms while the pressure of trying to play catchups manifested into nervey, mistake ridden footy for us.

-All is not lost. Seriously, we are likely still only going to be one game out of the eight and have an "easier" draw than those around the mark. It sucks we are not the all conquering, dominant ex-premier type at the moment but in another not so long ago era a sniff of finals would fill us with hope. Backs to the wall is how our club was made. This isn't over.

The WC one was worth imo. Five of their best players out, at home, point to prove...

[merantau]

Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

Well, that was a tough old night in the end.

*Puts on magical optimism cape*

Things I took out of it:
-Great first half as mentioned. Really quite dominant and if we could capitalise I think it would have gone the same way as the Melbourne game I saw here. Much like we did last night, Crows implode when they get a few goals down.

-The Richmond game. They played one good quarter and then got even more smashed than we did. There is a way back from this, a hard way, and maybe this (more so than the WC close one) can be the galvanising, look super hard into the mirror, season changing one.

-I have said it before, the umpiring at grounds with non-bipartisan crowds is just another reason that those home clubs rarely drop games and needs to be looked at. It is not corruption, it is psychology. Any 50-50 free is going to be paid when you have 40,000 people in your ear and much less likely when there is no one calling for it. Worse, the dubious ones also get paid. A handful of these at the wrong time can turn a game.

-Crows, like Geelong in Geelong, are very hard to beat at home (see above) and are probably the best team in the comp with next to no injuries.

-Any team that found themselves more than three or four goals down tonight was going to likely get belted. Once the Crows skipped ahead they relaxed and were able to play on their terms while the pressure of trying to play catchups manifested into nervey, mistake ridden footy for us.

-All is not lost. Seriously, we are likely still only going to be one game out of the eight and have an "easier" draw than those around the mark. It sucks we are not the all conquering, dominant ex-premier type at the moment but in another not so long ago era a sniff of finals would fill us with hope. Backs to the wall is how our club was made. This isn't over.

I really like your optimism and I am usually an optimist but I'm afraid I've seen very little this year, and more so in the last 5 weeks, to indicate that we can turn things around in the next 7 weeks.
After the pasting we got in Sydney we had a chance to bounce back against Melbourne and we were awful.
Against a weakened Coke outfit we played one good quarter.
We had miraculous escape against North.

By my count we have had one really convincing performance against GWS in a game we threw away with poor kicking. We had a chance to massacre St.Kilda and won by 40 instead of 80.
Most of our other wins have been big efforts coming from behind with the exception of the Sydney win when we played a brilliant third quarter only to see Franklin get them back in it before some brilliant work by Picken, Bont et al got us a great win.
That was the high point of the year for me and it seems SOLONG AGO now.

Still, as Bulldog die hards we are, if not anything, Prisoners of Hope and it is my earnest hope that we come out of the blocks at warp speed next week, put the game out of reach by quarter time, and then go on with it.

[merantau]

Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

Well, that was a tough old night in the end.

*Puts on magical optimism cape*

Things I took out of it:
-Great first half as mentioned. Really quite dominant and if we could capitalise I think it would have gone the same way as the Melbourne game I saw here. Much like we did last night, Crows implode when they get a few goals down.

-The Richmond game. They played one good quarter and then got even more smashed than we did. There is a way back from this, a hard way, and maybe this (more so than the WC close one) can be the galvanising, look super hard into the mirror, season changing one.

-I have said it before, the umpiring at grounds with non-bipartisan crowds is just another reason that those home clubs rarely drop games and needs to be looked at. It is not corruption, it is psychology. Any 50-50 free is going to be paid when you have 40,000 people in your ear and much less likely when there is no one calling for it. Worse, the dubious ones also get paid. A handful of these at the wrong time can turn a game.

-Crows, like Geelong in Geelong, are very hard to beat at home (see above) and are probably the best team in the comp with next to no injuries.

-Any team that found themselves more than three or four goals down tonight was going to likely get belted. Once the Crows skipped ahead they relaxed and were able to play on their terms while the pressure of trying to play catchups manifested into nervey, mistake ridden footy for us.

-All is not lost. Seriously, we are likely still only going to be one game out of the eight and have an "easier" draw than those around the mark. It sucks we are not the all conquering, dominant ex-premier type at the moment but in another not so long ago era a sniff of finals would fill us with hope. Backs to the wall is how our club was made. This isn't over.

I really like your optimism and I am usually an optimist but I'm afraid I've seen very little this year, and more so in the last 5 weeks, to indicate that we can turn things around in the next 7 weeks.
After the pasting we got in Sydney we had a chance to bounce back against Melbourne and we were awful.
Against a weakened Coke outfit we played one good quarter.
We had miraculous escape against North.

By my count we have had one really convincing performance against GWS in a game we threw away with poor kicking. We had a chance to massacre St.Kilda and won by 40 instead of 80.
Most of our other wins have been big efforts coming from behind with the exception of the Sydney win when we played a brilliant third quarter only to see Franklin get them back in it before some brilliant work by Picken, Bont et al got us a great win.
That was the high point of the year for me and it seems SOLONG AGO now.

Still, as Bulldog die hards we are, if not anything, Prisoners of Hope and it is my earnest hope that we come out of the blocks at warp speed next week, put the game out of reach by quarter time, and then go on with it.

[Twodogs]

Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

I'm not giving up until it's not possible to do.

[Eastdog]

Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

I'm not giving up until it's not possible to do.

Yep Bevo not and I'm not either. Was speaking to a mate today (Dogs fan) and he reckons we can win the next 2.