Match Committee - Round 2, 2018 vs West Coast Eagles

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  • MrMahatma
    Coaching Staff
    • Sep 2007
    • 3966

    Re: Match Committee - Round 2, 2018 vs West Coast Eagles

    Defence looks much much better than last week.

    Fwd line continues to look makeshift at best.

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    • Eastdog
      WOOF Communtiy Organiser
      • Feb 2012
      • 18292

      Re: Match Committee - Round 2, 2018 vs West Coast Eagles

      Originally posted by MrMahatma
      Defence looks much much better than last week.

      Fwd line continues to look makeshift at best.
      Yeah still no Boyd or Schache. Will have to rely a lot on crumming when the ball goes to ground a lot. Hopefully guys like Dahlhaus, Dunkley help here. Dunks wasn't too bad last week.

      Our mids also need to do better and if Macrae, Hunter, Bont can hit the scoreboard that will be very good.

      Bailey Dale as well looks very good in the forward line.
      "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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      • Topdog
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 7471

        Re: Match Committee - Round 2, 2018 vs West Coast Eagles

        Can't see us kicking a winning score

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        • ratsmac
          Coaching Staff
          • May 2009
          • 3975

          Re: Match Committee - Round 2, 2018 vs West Coast Eagles

          I am still struggling to understand some of our team selections. Bevo has always made left of field selections but this feels different for some reason. I mean why are we rushing in our draftees ahead of proven players, premiership players. Tom Boyd for instance apparently has to have his fitness up to scratch to get through 4 quarters before he's available for selection. Ok that's fine but is Naughton or Richards bodies/fitness better than Boyd's without even playing a single VFL game against men. It is totally possible because draftees do debut in round 1 all the time but its still a bit strange to me.

          Biggs gets dropped after 1 week for first gamer Richards. Is Richards going to do a better job than Biggs, maybe but its unlikely. Now don't get me wrong, I'm looking forward to seeing Richards and I'm excited about all the reports about him. I feel for Biggs and even Fletcher Roberts (who I'm not a huge fan of) when I think last weeks result was more about players being played out of their best positions that helped cause an 82 point thumping than Biggs and Roberts being out of form, in other words we lost it in the coaching box. Flipping the team on its head seems to be have players on edge and not playing with any sort of confidence. We are playing to our weaknesses instead of our strengths.

          And why isn't Wallis playing? From all reports he was best on in the practice match last weekend. We are looking more like a team in a rebuild than a young team that won the flag less the 2 years ago.

          Bevo and co cracked the premiership code so who am I to question what they are doing but I can't see why we continue putting out a team on the park with such little experience ahead of experience players. The thumping last week could of been far less without trying to experiment in round 1. It did nobody any favours. We had all pre-season and JLT for experimenting and from what I saw it didnt work even then. The GWS result wouldn't have given Naughton much confidence throwing him to the wolves like that. Having maybe Trengrove and his captain Wood by his side at the first bounce would of been a lot more settling in my opinion.

          I'm definitely jumping at shadows after just one round but these team selections make me nervous. Are we in a rebuild? Because it certainly feels like one.
          They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
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          • MrMahatma
            Coaching Staff
            • Sep 2007
            • 3966

            Re: Match Committee - Round 2, 2018 vs West Coast Eagles

            I'm hearing ya ratsmac.

            I'm hoping that Wallis, Boyd and Dickson are late changes.

            We have depth that we just aren't using.

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            • josie
              Coaching Staff
              • Oct 2012
              • 4487

              Re: Match Committee - Round 2, 2018 vs West Coast Eagles

              My guess is Bevo thinks we can win midfield and spread and run with ball better with inclusions (much as we did in ‘16 elimination final against eagles), and that English played well enough to hold his spot and that Roughy is a better mark around the ground than Boyd. Hope he is right. I would prefer Wallis over Honeychurch but understand Honey’s pressure and tackling last week means he has another go. If we can equalise tuck against nicknat I think we are in with a chance.
              Josie :)

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              And we'll have everything.
              We'll share the joy
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              • azabob
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2008
                • 15314

                Re: Match Committee - Round 2, 2018 vs West Coast Eagles

                Traditionally the first couple of rounds of each season are full on run and gun style football. If you play underdone players you will get caught out. Jong, Daniel, Wallis, Dickson and Boyd have all had limited / interupted pre-seasons and probably are not at 100% full fitness. You can't play them all.

                On paper the team looks balanced except for playing both English and Roughead.

                I get the feeling if Redpath was free to play he'd be in the team and one of Roughead or English wouldn't be playing.
                More of an In Bruges guy?

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                • kruder
                  Coaching Staff
                  • May 2011
                  • 3858

                  Re: Match Committee - Round 2, 2018 vs West Coast Eagles

                  The concerning thing for me is that its a season after a so called hangover and still we have many premiership players not in the team. Has Bevo lost faith? Are the players on the same page as the coach? Interesting times at the WO, the pressure is about to go up another level.

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                  • Ghost Dog
                    WOOF Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 9404

                    Re: Match Committee - Round 2, 2018 vs West Coast Eagles

                    Originally posted by ratsmac
                    I am still struggling to understand some of our team selections. Tom Boyd for instance apparently has to have his fitness up to scratch to get through 4 quarters before he's available for selection. Ok that's fine but is Naughton or Richards bodies/fitness better than Boyd's without even playing a single VFL game against men.
                    Good points. Hopefully he will be in soon. Paying all that money for him. I doubt the media will fail to notice him continually being left out of the side... Buddy has games where he doesn't get much of a touch and just a goal and a few touches. I think we just have to play him. Big men take longer to develop.
                    You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                    • Happy Days
                      Hall of Fame
                      • May 2008
                      • 10143

                      Re: Match Committee - Round 2, 2018 vs West Coast Eagles

                      Unbelievable that Biggs got dropped before Williams.
                      - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                      • Nuggety Back Pocket
                        WOOF Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 2064

                        Re: Match Committee - Round 2, 2018 vs West Coast Eagles

                        Originally posted by ratsmac
                        I am still struggling to understand some of our team selections. Bevo has always made left of field selections but this feels different for some reason. I mean why are we rushing in our draftees ahead of proven players, premiership players. Tom Boyd for instance apparently has to have his fitness up to scratch to get through 4 quarters before he's available for selection. Ok that's fine but is Naughton or Richards bodies/fitness better than Boyd's without even playing a single VFL game against men. It is totally possible because draftees do debut in round 1 all the time but its still a bit strange to me.

                        Biggs gets dropped after 1 week for first gamer Richards. Is Richards going to do a better job than Biggs, maybe but its unlikely. Now don't get me wrong, I'm looking forward to seeing Richards and I'm excited about all the reports about him. I feel for Biggs and even Fletcher Roberts (who I'm not a huge fan of) when I think last weeks result was more about players being played out of their best positions that helped cause an 82 point thumping than Biggs and Roberts being out of form, in other words we lost it in the coaching box. Flipping the team on its head seems to be have players on edge and not playing with any sort of confidence. We are playing to our weaknesses instead of our strengths.

                        And why isn't Wallis playing? From all reports he was best on in the practice match last weekend. We are looking more like a team in a rebuild than a young team that won the flag less the 2 years ago.

                        Bevo and co cracked the premiership code so who am I to question what they are doing but I can't see why we continue putting out a team on the park with such little experience ahead of experience players. The thumping last week could of been far less without trying to experiment in round 1. It did nobody any favours. We had all pre-season and JLT for experimenting and from what I saw it didnt work even then. The GWS result wouldn't have given Naughton much confidence throwing him to the wolves like that. Having maybe Trengrove and his captain Wood by his side at the first bounce would of been a lot more settling in my opinion.

                        I'm definitely jumping at shadows after just one round but these team selections make me nervous. Are we in a rebuild? Because it certainly feels like one.
                        Agree with your thoughts and sentiments.
                        Very hard to justify leaving Wallis out considering Libba's season ending injury. The selections of Honeychurch Gowers and Richards, I find puzzling. You still wonder where our goals are going to come from. Missing a key forward in Redpath Schache or Tom Boyd is a worry. Happy to see Trengrove and Wood back in defence where they should have been last week. A win would bring about a great degree of confidence, but this is a line up that still appears unsettled.

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                        • bulldogsthru&thru
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • May 2011
                          • 7697

                          Re: Match Committee - Round 2, 2018 vs West Coast Eagles

                          Reading the match report of the vfl game and understanding why Boyd isn’t playing.

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                          • FrediKanoute
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 3830

                            Re: Match Committee - Round 2, 2018 vs West Coast Eagles

                            Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                            Reading the match report of the vfl game and understanding why Boyd isn’t playing.
                            Late inclusion?

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                            • Eastdog
                              WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 18292

                              Re: Match Committee - Round 2, 2018 vs West Coast Eagles

                              Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                              Reading the match report of the vfl game and understanding why Boyd isn’t playing.
                              According to the report he struggled.
                              "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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                              • bulldogsthru&thru
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • May 2011
                                • 7697

                                Re: Match Committee - Round 2, 2018 vs West Coast Eagles

                                Originally posted by FrediKanoute
                                Late inclusion?
                                He struggled and looked as though lacking confidence

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