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  • Bulldogs201616
    Rookie List
    • Dec 2024
    • 96

    #76
    I'm hoping we give Hynes a full game.

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    • angelopetraglia
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Nov 2008
      • 6669

      #77
      In the mix


      Treloar is pushing to be available for the first time in 2025 after missing most of the pre-season due to a series of calf strains. The reigning All-Australian midfielder has trained fully over the past few weeks. Coffield is also on track to be available for some minutes this weekend. Liam Jones played in the VFL for the first time in years after Jedd Busslinger was picked for a debut. Taylor Duryea was busy in the VFL with 30 touches, while Oskar Baker also collected 30 disposals after flying from Canberra to Blacktown that morning. – Josh Gabelich

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      • Scott2016
        Rookie List
        • Dec 2024
        • 71

        #78
        Originally posted by kruder

        Bramble played well last night I would be backing him in like last year.
        Bramble cannot kick. Especially short distances. Puts others under too much pressure.

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        • Axe Man
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2008
          • 10859

          #79
          Originally posted by Scott2016

          Bramble cannot kick. Especially short distances. Puts others under too much pressure.
          78.6% kicking efficiency this season (78.7% last year) which is above the league average for his position. Also his disposal efficiency of 83.9% ranks elite this season.

          I know he has the odd howler but I don't believe he is a bad kick overall.

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          • Axe Man
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 10859

            #80
            Originally posted by Bulldogs201616
            I'm hoping we give Hynes a full game.
            In the VFL?

            Who are you dropping if Treloar and McNeil return?

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            • jazzadogs
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Oct 2008
              • 5431

              #81
              Originally posted by Axe Man

              78.6% kicking efficiency this season (78.7% last year) which is above the league average for his position. Also his disposal efficiency of 83.9% ranks elite this season.

              I know he has the odd howler but I don't believe he is a bad kick overall.
              Kicking efficiency is a bit of a false stat because a 30m kick to a contest is classed as effective. My understanding is that it's only a direct turnover that would impact your kicking efficiency.

              I think he's a fine long kick, but agree with Scott that his short kicking is a concern.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 65561

                #82
                Originally posted by jazzadogs

                Kicking efficiency is a bit of a false stat because a 30m kick to a contest is classed as effective. My understanding is that it's only a direct turnover that would impact your kicking efficiency.

                I think he's a fine long kick, but agree with Scott that his short kicking is a concern.
                According to Champion Data glossary, all they say is:

                Disposal Efficiency: Percentage of disposals that are effective.
                Kicking Efficiency: Percentage of kicks that were effective.

                see here
                FFC: Established 1883

                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 65561

                  #83
                  With JJ now in doubt, I am going to go with:

                  In: Treloar, McNeil, Baker
                  Out: Dolan, JJ, Hynes
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • jazzadogs
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 5431

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Bornadog

                    According to Champion Data glossary, all they say is:

                    Disposal Efficiency: Percentage of disposals that are effective.
                    Kicking Efficiency: Percentage of kicks that were effective.

                    see here
                    Effective Kick: The sum of effective short kicks, effective long kicks and effective ground kicks.
                    Effective Long Kick: A kick of more than 40 metres to a 50/50 contest or better for the team.
                    Effective Short Kick: A kick of less than 40 metres that results in the intended target retaining possession. Does not include kicks that are spoiled by the opposition.

                    So a player who tends to kick long, like Bramble, might end up with a higher kicking efficiency when really his biggest metric is metres gained.

                    Bailey Smith is another who often kicks long, which makes his shocking kicking efficiency even more laughable...you just need to get it to a 50/50 Baz!

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                    • DOG GOD
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 6336

                      #85
                      I literally dont see what Hynes offers. I don’t see the point in having him and Dolan both playing. If McNeil or Treloar are available , then they have to come in. Even if Treloar was Sub, that’s going to offer more than A full game from Hynes
                      I will never see #16 the same!!

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                      • FrediKanoute
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 3795

                        #86
                        Originally posted by DOG GOD
                        I literally dont see what Hynes offers. I don’t see the point in having him and Dolan both playing. If McNeil or Treloar are available , then they have to come in. Even if Treloar was Sub, that’s going to offer more than A full game from Hynes
                        Yeah, maybe, but it could be the game that it comes together for Hynes and sets him up as a 10 year player. Does it hurt to ask Treloar o find touch and fitness in the VFL?

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                        • Bulldogs201616
                          Rookie List
                          • Dec 2024
                          • 96

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Axe Man

                          In the VFL?

                          Who are you dropping if Treloar and McNeil return?
                          Was hoping in the AFL. But if Treloar comes in Hynes will come out.

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                          • jeemak
                            Bulldog Legend
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 21368

                            #88
                            Originally posted by DOG GOD
                            I literally dont see what Hynes offers. I don’t see the point in having him and Dolan both playing. If McNeil or Treloar are available , then they have to come in. Even if Treloar was Sub, that’s going to offer more than A full game from Hynes
                            Hynes hasn't had a lot of the footy, but I'd argue in general play he's been pretty effective in lieu of not playing huge minutes.

                            Sure, he missed that goal he should have kicked versus the Saints, outside of that he's going at 72% kicking efficiency and a few of his kicks have been coach's orders/ direct inside rather than down the line. Overall disposal efficiency of 74% which is pretty good for a newcomer.

                            You might be right in suggesting the side would be better without each of him and Dolan in the same side. Here's their season comparison (just out of interest):

                            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                            • whythelongface
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 4252

                              #89
                              Originally posted by FrediKanoute

                              Yeah, maybe, but it could be the game that it comes together for Hynes and sets him up as a 10 year player. Does it hurt to ask Treloar o find touch and fitness in the VFL?
                              Would we ask the same of Bont or Libba to come back through the VFL after a long lay off? No way. Treloar is in our top 3 bracket of players- no way should he come back via the VFL. He is the ultimate professional. If he is good to go he comes straight back in.

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                              • The Underdog
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 6737

                                #90
                                Originally posted by whythelongface

                                Would we ask the same of Bont or Libba to come back through the VFL after a long lay off? No way. Treloar is in our top 3 bracket of players- no way should he come back via the VFL. He is the ultimate professional. If he is good to go he comes straight back in.
                                Play him as the sub, imagine sending Adz on 2/3 of the way through a game.
                                Park that car
                                Drop that phone
                                Sleep on the floor
                                Dream about me

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