Always Right Match Committee R13 vs Hawthorn 2025

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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66687

    #16
    Originally posted by JanLorMill
    Anyone that played like Cleary did last night shouldn’t keep their spot. At least 4 or 5 turnovers. What else we got?
    5 turnovers - Dale, Richards, West Cleary
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    • lemmon
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Nov 2008
      • 6520

      #17
      Originally posted by Happy Days
      Baker tried hard but man he just can’t do anything well or right.
      I must be the only person who thought Baker played a decent game of footy.

      He had the third-highest metres gained for our side, delivered two direct goal assists with very good forward 50 entries, and was always willing to back his legs in and take the ground in front of him.

      I thought it was telling that Bevo moved him to a half-back flank when we struggled to move the footy because those other backs were stagnant or horrendous by foot. I thought he earned a spot against the Hawks.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66687

        #18
        Originally posted by lemmon

        I must be the only person who thought Baker played a decent game of footy.

        He had the third-highest metres gained for our side, delivered two direct goal assists with very good forward 50 entries, and was always willing to back his legs in and take the ground in front of him.

        I thought it was telling that Bevo moved him to a half-back flank when we struggled to move the footy because those other backs were stagnant or horrendous by foot. I thought he earned a spot against the Hawks.
        I thought he played ok. My worry was the use of Truck, Duryea and the performance of JJ although the Geelong smalls didn't kick too many.
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        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • Danjul
          WOOF Member
          • Apr 2019
          • 1624

          #19
          Originally posted by lemmon

          I must be the only person who thought Baker played a decent game of footy.

          .
          I watched him closely and at halftime he was in the top 5 for most stats. He was way ahead of Dale, for example. So in a team that had appalling skill and organisation in the first half I am surprised by the excessive criticism. He often makes good positioning and is ignored.

          There’s at least 6 who contributed to Geelong’s win. Even our best made significant blunders. Bad decisions and bad skills.

          If Richards had kicked to Khamis as well as Baker kicked to English for his goal we would have been in a winning position.

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          • EasternWest
            Hall of Fame
            • Aug 2009
            • 10002

            #20
            Originally posted by Danjul

            I watched him closely and at halftime he was in the top 5 for most stats. He was way ahead of Dale, for example. So in a team that had appalling skill and organisation in the first half I am surprised by the excessive criticism. He often makes good positioning and is ignored.

            There’s at least 6 who contributed to Geelong’s win. Even our best made significant blunders. Bad decisions and bad skills.

            If Richards had kicked to Khamis as well as Baker kicked to English for his goal we would have been in a winning position.
            I'm not a huge wrap for Baker, other than always respecting his work rate and aggression, but I also thought he was pretty good last night.

            His kick to English was high IQ precision play.
            "It's over. It's all over."

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            • westbulldog
              Senior Player
              • Sep 2009
              • 1822

              #21
              I'd like to hear any justification for keeping McNeil in the side......

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              • Rusty12
                Draftee
                • Dec 2024
                • 588

                #22
                Can easy see Buss for Jones, no issue with that.

                If we go smaller, no Jones/Buss.

                Cleary over Baker, Duyrea and Bramble in the hope, he becomes better than them.

                Freijah is D6/7, as well as wing.

                Backs:

                Jones - Lobb - JOD - Truck - JJ - Dale
                Outside:
                Freijah - Harmes
                Inside:
                Libba - Bont - Richards
                Ruck:
                English
                Forwards:
                Naughton - Darcy - Sanders - Mennedy - West - VDM

                INT: Cleary - Trelor - Davidson - Khamis
                Sub: McNeil

                Bubble:
                Jaques - Buss - Dolan - Lennedy - Coffield - Bramble - Gallagher - Baker - Scott - Hynes - Duyrea
                Not in the Mix:
                Smith - Gardner
                Injured:
                Garcia - Croft - Arty

                Ins: Trelor - Darcy - Jones
                Out: Bramble - Baker - Duyrea

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                • JanLorMill
                  WOOF Member
                  • Feb 2023
                  • 1688

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Bornadog

                  5 turnovers - Dale, Richards, West Cleary
                  Cleary is only one that played 3 qtrs for 10 possessions. Those others had the ball more and some kicked goals. Do you count a miss from 40 straight as a Clanger?
                  Mistakes more the offical clangers. Eg Short kicks into a contest.

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                  • Mofra
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 14945

                    #24
                    Is VDM ok? Came off late
                    Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66687

                      #25
                      Originally posted by JanLorMill

                      Cleary is only one that played 3 qtrs for 10 possessions. Those others had the ball more and some kicked goals. Do you count a miss from 40 straight as a Clanger?
                      Mistakes more the offical clangers. Eg Short kicks into a contest.
                      agree, just showing we had a bad night for turnovers
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                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • Critter
                        Rookie List
                        • Jan 2023
                        • 440

                        #26
                        McNeil, Bramble and Duryea used up all their Get Out of Jail cards last night.

                        In Jones Treloar Dolan
                        Out McNeil Bramble Duryea

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                        • Aidan7557
                          Rookie List
                          • Jan 2025
                          • 158

                          #27
                          Anyone else think we could try Treloar in defence? Did it a few years ago in the back end of 22 or 23 and he did play well. I hope we back in Cleary who obviously had a disaster and also think one of Williams or Freijah might get permanently moved to defence. Can't play Bramble, Duyrea and Baker in the same team but I still trust Bramble the most. Duyrea is 34 and really should be back up and Baker can barely kick the ball without it almost missing his foot despite being fast. Dale, JJ, Adz, Williams, Bramble as small defenders makes me feel more comfortable.

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                          • Mantis
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 15444

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Aidan7557
                            Anyone else think we could try Treloar in defence? Did it a few years ago in the back end of 22 or 23 and he did play well. I hope we back in Cleary who obviously had a disaster and also think one of Williams or Freijah might get permanently moved to defence. Can't play Bramble, Duyrea and Baker in the same team but I still trust Bramble the most. Duyrea is 34 and really should be back up and Baker can barely kick the ball without it almost missing his foot despite being fast. Dale, JJ, Adz, Williams, Bramble as small defenders makes me feel more comfortable.
                            No... and he performed extremely poorly as a defender back in 2022. He is an AA midfielder and that's where he needs to play.

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                            • Mat Lyons
                              Rookie List
                              • Jan 2023
                              • 244

                              #29
                              In: Darcy, Trelaor
                              Out: Cleary, Duryea

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 66687

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Mat Lyons
                                In: Darcy, Trelaor
                                Out: Cleary, Duryea
                                I would drop Bramble not Cleary
                                FFC: Established 1883

                                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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