3 Things Learned - R11, 2025

[Danjul]

One thing I continue to learn is to never trust the bloody models. For the most part, our overall ratings have gone up despite losing.

But I would rather have low ratings and high winnings. So we need a winning model and not a ratings model.

[comrade]

But I would rather have low ratings and high winnings. So we need a winning model and not a ratings model.

That’s my point.

[ibonttobreakfree]

1. Our game holds up everywhere but it goes from good to great at marvel.
2. Despite looking terrible for long patches we can still score heavily.
3. The dogs supporters rally in the 4th quarter gave me tingles. Felt a little special.

[jeemak]

I don't agree, the 50 game milestone is just a number to consider and it isn't really an indicator of experience.
Gardner is on 53 games and at his 2nd club and I wouldn't count him as inexperienced if he was on 48 games.
The same appliers to Baker who's on 43 games and at his 2nd club. I'm not cutting him any slack if he performs somewhat poorly in a game and then writing it off as him being inexperienced.
The same applies to Khamis who's clearly not on his P Plates.
Sure the likes of Sanders and Freijah can be given some allowance because they're new players but counting Baker as inexperienced given he has been in the system for 8 years and is 26yo seems a lazy piece of analysis.

G, not sure if this was directed at my post, if it was, maybe dial it back a notch. I was more picking up on your four year comments, rather than the specific players you mentioned. I don't disagree that Khamis and Baker should be showing signs of reliability, to me the former is getting there even though he's only played 37 games. Though in each case conflating opportunity with experience is something to watch out for.

Outside of that there's good experience, bad experience and everything in between. If you've been in the system long enough to actually play 100-150 games then there's a fair chance you've been better than average and reliable enough to put together a really strong career. To me these are the experienced players we're lacking versus a team like Geelong. You have to show a level of quality over time to make it that far, whereas someone like Baker is likely on his last chance and Khamis isn't that far behind him.

So experience isn't a binary thing, based on either years or games played. There's more to it.

[my plums]

1. Uncleanliness of our bottom 6 or so impacting our chances.
2. Need some smaller defenders for the future.
3. It's not all doom and gloom, but gee we need a scalp