The Moment: Rnd 13, 2025 vs Hawthorn

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  • Mantis
    Hall of Fame
    • Apr 2007
    • 15444

    #16
    Originally posted by chef
    Whatever we did during the bye, totally miss read the occasion. Everyone but the club could see this was a backs to the wall game for Hawthorn, and we were stunned by it for some dumb reason.
    Yep… to be 5 goals to 1 behind at 1/4 time was inexcusable.

    They came out and punched us right between the eyes…. like wake the **** up boys!

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    • Bumper Bulldogs
      Coaching Staff
      • Apr 2008
      • 2965

      #17
      Originally posted by chef
      Whatever we did during the bye, totally miss read the occasion. Everyone but the club could see this was a backs to the wall game for Hawthorn, and we were stunned by it for some dumb reason.
      Yes agree we were slightly off and shouldn’t have been
      BB.

      Looking forward - Naughton, Darcy and JUH. It will be the envy of everyone.

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      • merantau
        Coaching Staff
        • May 2015
        • 4052

        #18
        Truth is we were terrible last night. First quarter was a disaster. Their season was unravelling and we allowed them to walk all over us.
        The English miss in the first set the tone. He is not a big game player

        The Sanders miss was the crucial psychological moment - the absolute killer - as it would've lifted us and set the alarm bells ringing in their heads.
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        • BiteNibbleChomp
          Rookie List
          • Dec 2024
          • 175

          #19
          The first 30 seconds. I said something like "it's going to be one of those nights" after that. And then it was.

          - BNC

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66687

            #20
            Originally posted by chef
            Whatever we did during the bye, totally miss read the occasion. Everyone but the club could see this was a backs to the wall game for Hawthorn, and we were stunned by it for some dumb reason.
            Why can't we win after a bye??
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            • Sedat
              Hall of Fame
              • Sep 2007
              • 11243

              #21
              The entire 1st quarter was an indictment on the club, but especially on our senior mids. They were absolutely nowhere for 30 minutes.

              If we're talking specific moments, the Dale/Bramble screw-up in the 2nd robbed us of strong momentum, as it basically resulted in a 3 goal turnaround inside 90 seconds.

              I don't want to deliberately pot the kid but what McNeill did in the 3rd is almost a career destroyer. Every element of that play was diabolically executed - the obvious telegraphing of his intentions, the high loopy execution of the kick, the decision in the first place to retreat 10m and then go lateral, the designated target of the intended kick (we aren't going to do a fast play transition with the ball in Gardy's hands). None of it benefitted the team in that passage of play but he went ahead with it anyway.
              "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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              • SonofScray
                Coaching Staff
                • Apr 2008
                • 4234

                #22
                Originally posted by Sedat
                The entire 1st quarter was an indictment on the club, but especially on our senior mids. They were absolutely nowhere for 30 minutes.

                If we're talking specific moments, the Dale/Bramble screw-up in the 2nd robbed us of strong momentum, as it basically resulted in a 3 goal turnaround inside 90 seconds.

                I don't want to deliberately pot the kid but what McNeill did in the 3rd is almost a career destroyer. Every element of that play was diabolically executed - the obvious telegraphing of his intentions, the high loopy execution of the kick, the decision in the first place to retreat 10m and then go lateral, the designated target of the intended kick (we aren't going to do a fast play transition with the ball in Gardy's hands). None of it benefitted the team in that passage of play but he went ahead with it anyway.
                Spot on, on all accounts.

                The McNeil one was absolutely disgusting football. It reminded me of the time we all went berserk over Billy Gowers kicking across the middle in the dying stages of a close game against the Suns. Inexplicably stupid decision, poor execution, and to a player we don’t want with the ball in hand.

                It is too big a risk carrying limited players that’ll do that in a side that needs a lot to go right to start with.

                They’ve bashed us a few times now. Too physical. That’s a horrible look.
                Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                • bulldogsthru&thru
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • May 2011
                  • 7697

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Sedat
                  The entire 1st quarter was an indictment on the club, but especially on our senior mids. They were absolutely nowhere for 30 minutes.

                  If we're talking specific moments, the Dale/Bramble screw-up in the 2nd robbed us of strong momentum, as it basically resulted in a 3 goal turnaround inside 90 seconds.

                  I don't want to deliberately pot the kid but what McNeill did in the 3rd is almost a career destroyer. Every element of that play was diabolically executed - the obvious telegraphing of his intentions, the high loopy execution of the kick, the decision in the first place to retreat 10m and then go lateral, the designated target of the intended kick (we aren't going to do a fast play transition with the ball in Gardy's hands). None of it benefitted the team in that passage of play but he went ahead with it anyway.
                  And somehow the exact same thing happened in the final against Hawthorn. Coincidence?

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44620

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Happy Days
                    McNeil’s idiotic 50m backward switch to Gardner that gifted Chol another goal. Even if it had’ve worked it would’ve just been a turnover one kick later.
                    I know Gards is copping it because Chol kicked some goals but this is the one that really broke some momentum.
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                    • CarnTheScray
                      Rookie List
                      • Mar 2020
                      • 130

                      #25
                      Amazed it’s taken people this long to notice McNeil on the field. He’s played exactly like this for years, 63 games. It’s like people just accepted he would be in the team each week so why bother talking about it.

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                      • Scott2016
                        Rookie List
                        • Dec 2024
                        • 146

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Sedat
                        The entire 1st quarter was an indictment on the club, but especially on our senior mids. They were absolutely nowhere for 30 minutes.

                        If we're talking specific moments, the Dale/Bramble screw-up in the 2nd robbed us of strong momentum, as it basically resulted in a 3 goal turnaround inside 90 seconds.

                        I don't want to deliberately pot the kid but what McNeill did in the 3rd is almost a career destroyer. Every element of that play was diabolically executed - the obvious telegraphing of his intentions, the high loopy execution of the kick, the decision in the first place to retreat 10m and then go lateral, the designated target of the intended kick (we aren't going to do a fast play transition with the ball in Gardy's hands). None of it benefitted the team in that passage of play but he went ahead with it anyway.
                        Shows he has no brain. Why would you kick it to Gardner at anytime! Bailey Dale might kick it to Gardner but will fly past and get it back. Mcniel's time is up. Hopefully the match committee will now give someone else a turn. Surely Jaques L Kennedy Hynes and Gallagher will be better in their careers after 50 games compared to Mcneil. If not, then we are in real strife in the future.

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                        • SonofScray
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 4234

                          #27
                          Originally posted by GVGjr

                          I know Gards is copping it because Chol kicked some goals but this is the one that really broke some momentum.
                          People are going to bag Gardy regardless. Thought the only really poor effort of his was the weak attack on the footy that allowed Ginnivan through for his goal and taunt. That was indecisive, amateur stuff. The rest of the game I saw a limited, but honest player doing their job in very challenging conditions in terms of the structure and play up in front of him.
                          Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                          • angelopetraglia
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 6838

                            #28
                            Originally posted by SonofScray

                            People are going to bag Gardy regardless. Thought the only really poor effort of his was the weak attack on the footy that allowed Ginnivan through for his goal and taunt. That was indecisive, amateur stuff. The rest of the game I saw a limited, but honest player doing their job in very challenging conditions in terms of the structure and play up in front of him.
                            I also thought he did't commit in the air when Chol took the mark going back with the flight. He was running front onto the ball. He should have gone the ball and not just stuck out an arm.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66687

                              #29
                              Originally posted by SonofScray

                              People are going to bag Gardy regardless. Thought the only really poor effort of his was the weak attack on the footy that allowed Ginnivan through for his goal and taunt. That was indecisive, amateur stuff. The rest of the game I saw a limited, but honest player doing their job in very challenging conditions in terms of the structure and play up in front of him.
                              Twice Chol beat him one on one in the goal square and Hawks kicked a goal. He also left Chol on his own and ran in to spoil but too late. He cost us at least 4 goals.
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                              • angelopetraglia
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 6838

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Sedat
                                The entire 1st quarter was an indictment on the club, but especially on our senior mids. They were absolutely nowhere for 30 minutes.

                                If we're talking specific moments, the Dale/Bramble screw-up in the 2nd robbed us of strong momentum, as it basically resulted in a 3 goal turnaround inside 90 seconds.

                                I don't want to deliberately pot the kid but what McNeill did in the 3rd is almost a career destroyer. Every element of that play was diabolically executed - the obvious telegraphing of his intentions, the high loopy execution of the kick, the decision in the first place to retreat 10m and then go lateral, the designated target of the intended kick (we aren't going to do a fast play transition with the ball in Gardy's hands). None of it benefitted the team in that passage of play but he went ahead with it anyway.
                                100%. That was probably the game. We had held them goaless for almost the entire quarter. Then they went bang, bang which all started from a basic skill error.

                                Then McNeil. Just soul destroying.

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