Coaching Group - Under Pressure?

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  • Eastdog
    WOOF Communtiy Organiser
    • Feb 2012
    • 18292

    #46
    Re: Coaching Group - Under Pressure?

    Originally posted by azabob
    Unfortunately still a very relevant question and no clearer answer.

    Sam Mitchell, Blake Caracella & Adam Kingsley all out contract at years end (or breaking final year) who are each highly rated.
    A reasonable question. Bevo is safe but might need some new people around him.
    "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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    • westdog54
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 6686

      #47
      Re: Coaching Group - Under Pressure?

      Has Bevo actually brought any assistants in during his time?

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      • SlimPickens
        Coaching Staff
        • Aug 2010
        • 2929

        #48
        Re: Coaching Group - Under Pressure?

        Originally posted by westdog54
        Has Bevo actually brought any assistants in during his time?
        Yes, his mate from the ammos Jamie Maddox
        "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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        • Sedat
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2007
          • 11253

          #49
          Re: Coaching Group - Under Pressure?

          Over the last month we are easily the worst team in the entire competition. Worst percentage, worst points for and worst points against.

          This isn't just about 'injuries' and 'we're young'. We're actually completely broken in all key facets of the game. Over to you Bevo.
          "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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          • jeemak
            Bulldog Legend
            • Oct 2010
            • 21831

            #50
            Re: Coaching Group - Under Pressure?

            Originally posted by Sedat
            Over the last month we are easily the worst team in the entire competition. Worst percentage, worst points for and worst points against.

            This isn't just about 'injuries' and 'we're young'. We're actually completely broken in all key facets of the game. Over to you Bevo.
            Of course the draw (fixture) has nothing to do with that.......right?

            Just as it might not be only about being injured and young, it's more about that than it is anything else. Apart from putting in effort every week, which admittedly has been an issue, I honestly don't know what people want in terms of structure and game plan.
            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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            • Ghost Dog
              WOOF Member
              • May 2010
              • 9404

              #51
              Re: Coaching Group - Under Pressure?

              Not enough leadership replaced the losses in recent years. Too much expected of younger players, older players underperforming.
              You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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              • Sedat
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2007
                • 11253

                #52
                Re: Coaching Group - Under Pressure?

                Originally posted by jeemak
                Of course the draw (fixture) has nothing to do with that.......right?

                Just as it might not be only about being injured and young, it's more about that than it is anything else. Apart from putting in effort every week, which admittedly has been an issue, I honestly don't know what people want in terms of structure and game plan.
                Hawthorn, Melbourne, West Coke and Port. Not easy but not impossible. Certainly not a 52 points for/105 points against and a 49% draw over a 4 week sample size.
                "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                • jeemak
                  Bulldog Legend
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 21831

                  #53
                  Re: Coaching Group - Under Pressure?

                  Originally posted by Sedat
                  Hawthorn, Melbourne, West Coke and Port. Not easy but not impossible. Certainly not a 52 points for/105 points against and a 49% draw over a 4 week sample size.
                  Given it doesn't suit your point, of course not.

                  But it's the reality. It's why we seem OK for a half, then get fatigued and then get picked apart by more experienced teams week in and week out, without having different gears to go to or different plans to fall back on.

                  It's not rosy by a stretch, but having played four of four teams that are likely to finish in the eight, what did you expect from the last four games at this stage of the year?
                  TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                  • Sedat
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 11253

                    #54
                    Re: Coaching Group - Under Pressure?

                    Originally posted by jeemak
                    Given it doesn't suit your point, of course not.

                    But it's the reality. It's why we seem OK for a half, then get fatigued and then get picked apart by more experienced teams week in and week out, without having different gears to go to or different plans to fall back on.

                    It's not rosy by a stretch, but having played four of four teams that are likely to finish in the eight, what did you expect from the last four games at this stage of the year?
                    Well Brisbane beat Hawthorn in recent memory, as did Freo beat Port. And North have been struggling badly in recent weeks but beat up on West Coke yesterday. Imagine what Richmond would do to us in our current form?

                    I get we are young and I get we have injuries, but we shouldn't be an 18th team in the competition given how much quality (some in name only to be fair) we still have in the team at present. What I can't see (even in our competitive first halves the past 10 weeks) is any system, any cohesion and any remotely dangerous ball movement. I think we are so far off Broadway at the moment that our truly appalling form is being papered over - we shouldn't be this wretched, and we're talking worse than Carlton and Gold Coast levels of wretched. It's concerning to put it mildly - it's one thing to be an 8-10 win also-ran, but quite another to be plumbing the depths of worst in the comp 18 months after being best in the comp.
                    "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                    • Rocket Science
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 4852

                      #55
                      Re: Coaching Group - Under Pressure?

                      Originally posted by Sedat
                      Well Brisbane beat Hawthorn in recent memory, as did Freo beat Port. And North have been struggling badly in recent weeks but beat up on West Coke yesterday. Imagine what Richmond will do to us in our current form?

                      I get we are young and I get we have injuries, but we shouldn't be an 18th team in the competition given how much quality (some in name only to be fair) we still have in the team at present. What I can't see (even in our competitive first halves the past 10 weeks) is any system, any cohesion and any remotely dangerous ball movement. I think we are so far off Broadway at the moment that our truly appalling form is being papered over - we shouldn't be this wretched, and we're talking worse than Carlton and Gold Coast levels of wretched. It's concerning to put it mildly - it's one thing to be an 8-10 win also-ran, but quite another to be plumbing the depths of worst in the comp 18 months after being best in the comp.
                      Fixed!
                      BORDERLINE FLYING

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                      • westdog54
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6686

                        #56
                        Re: Coaching Group - Under Pressure?

                        Originally posted by SlimPickens
                        Yes, his mate from the ammos Jamie Maddox
                        So he's handpicked only one assistant over four seasons? That seems exceptionally low.

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                        • The Bulldogs Bite
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 11246

                          #57
                          Re: Coaching Group - Under Pressure?

                          Continues to be a 'watch this space', but I'm not convinced we'll make many - or any - changes. We seem hellbent on sticking with what we have and trusting the 'good people' within our people, despite 2 appalling seasons.
                          W00F!

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                          • Mantis
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 15448

                            #58
                            Re: Coaching Group - Under Pressure?

                            Do we know how many of our assistants are out of contract at the end of this season?

                            I heard on SEN this morning that all out of contract assistants need to be offered a new contract by the end of today otherwise they are informed they won’t be with the club next season.

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44649

                              #59
                              Re: Coaching Group - Under Pressure?

                              Originally posted by Mantis
                              Do we know how many of our assistants are out of contract at the end of this season?

                              I heard on SEN this morning that all out of contract assistants need to be offered a new contract by the end of today otherwise they are informed they won’t be with the club next season.
                              The contract situation and timeframe on the notification is correct, I'm not sure who might be out of contract but I was told at least one assistant coach would be going. I wasn't given any names.
                              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 44649

                                #60
                                Re: Coaching Group - Under Pressure?

                                Originally posted by westdog54
                                So he's handpicked only one assistant over four seasons? That seems exceptionally low.
                                It is exceptionally low, I think the club needs to bring in some additional support to the current coaching numbers
                                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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