Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

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  • mjp
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7305

    Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

    I have been thinking about our selections for a solid 12 hours now and am no closer to an explanation.

    Last week, we played (nominally) 7 defenders.

    This week, we have "lost":

    1x running defender: Biggs
    1x medium defender: Wood
    1x midfielder: Macrae
    1x unclear: Webb

    We have chosen to include:
    2x (genuine) key defenders: Adams and Naughton
    1x (has played his career as a) key defender: Morris
    1x mid who plays for some reason as a forward: Dunkley

    North have ONE (1) key forward - Brown.

    I have read all of the updates on the match committee thread and I still can't make sense of it.

    So...can anyone tell me what is actually going on, how we are going to get the ball and how we propose to score?

    Who said it was impossible to TANK in the AFL competition??
    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.
  • Mofra
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 14868

    #2
    Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

    Looking for sense in our MC selections = recipe for insanity.

    Adams may well go forward given he's played about two quarters of AFL football there in the past which is more than half our list.

    Perhaps Trengove can go forward and/or play ruck.

    I suspect if we had any half-fit AFL capable mid ready they would have been selected. We could well see Morris in the ruck for all the weird positional changes that have occurred this year.
    Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66169

      #3
      Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

      The current status

      Adams, Marcus Playing
      Bontempelli, Marcus Playing
      Boyd, Thomas Playing
      Cordy, Zaine Playing
      Crozier, Hayden Playing
      Dahlhaus, Luke Playing
      Daniel, Caleb Playing
      Dunkley, Josh Playing
      Gowers, Billy Playing
      Honeychurch, Mitch Playing
      Hunter, Lachlan Playing
      Johannisen, Jason Playing
      Lipinski, Patrick Playing
      McLean, Toby Playing
      Morris, Dale Playing
      Naughton, Aaron Playing
      Richards, Ed Playing
      Schache, Josh Playing
      Smith, Roarke Playing
      Trengove, Jackson Playing
      Wallis, Mitchell Playing
      Williams, Bailey Playing
      Biggs, Shane VFL
      Campbell, Tom VFL
      Collins, Kieran VFL
      Greene, Fergus VFL
      Jong, Lin VFL
      Lynch, Bradley VFL
      Mullenger-McHugh, Nathan VFL
      Porter, Callum VFL
      Roberts, Fletcher VFL
      Roughead, Jordan VFL
      Young, Lewis VFL
      Dale, Bailey Injured
      Dickson, Tory Injured
      English, Timothy Injured
      Liberatore, Thomas Injured
      Macrae, Jackson Injured
      Picken, Liam Injured
      Redpath, Jack Injured
      Smith, Clay Injured
      Suckling, Matthew Injured
      Webb, Lukas Injured
      Wood, Easton Injured
      Of the available players who should be playing instead of selected team?
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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66169

        #4
        Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

        Biggs, Shane VFL Maybe unlucky to be dropped
        Campbell, Tom VFL Only if Boyd was dropped
        Collins, Kieran VFL Not ready
        Greene, Fergus VFL Maybe
        Jong, Lin VFL Maybe
        Lynch, Bradley VFL Not ready
        Mullenger-McHugh, Nathan VFL Not ready
        Porter, Callum VFL Not ready
        Roberts, Fletcher VFL Only if other defender dropped
        Roughead, Jordan VFL Only if Boyd was dropped
        Young, Lewis VFL Only if other defender dropped

        The cupboard is bare
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • Mofra
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 14868

          #5
          Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

          ^ BAD I seriously would have given Greene a shot this week.
          It's not like we have a functioning forwardline, he's hit the scoreboard in recent weeks and we should be playing with a view to list management at the end of the season. If he shows something - anything - at AFL level he's a definite keep as we'll be cutting heavily this year.

          I would have given Campbell a game by now too; risking a banged-up-finger forward cum ruckman Boyd and holding onto Campbell for two years with no actual intention of playing him is pretty poor list management.

          I note we have Lynch listed as an emergency - to me that is just as mystifying given we have so many defenders the last thing we need is another one if one of our listed players doesn't come up.
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          • jeemak
            Bulldog Legend
            • Oct 2010
            • 21586

            #6
            Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

            Jong being the only player capable of midfield time in the list of players playing VFL. He was reported as playing well last week by Bulldogs media, though WOOF watchers didn't think he was effective and seemingly neither did the coaching team.
            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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            • Rocket Science
              Coaching Staff
              • Oct 2007
              • 4850

              #7
              Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

              Every time we're forced to countenance whether an Adams/Naughton/Roberts/Trengove/Richards/Johannisen/Cordy/insert other non-forward of your choosing can successfully go forward a puppy dies.

              "Gee XXX has looked ok lately, quick let's transplant him into another area of the field we've been getting smashed in"

              Granted injuries have cruelled us but they've also shone a glaring spotlight on the fact that our remedy to being so utterly bereft of competent forwards is auditioning a merry-go-round of defenders (and mids) who don't often have a mortgage on their 'natural' positions let alone being a magic wand for our feckless 'attack' ... never mind the constant disruption of not allowing blokes to settle anywhere, nor their teammates around them.

              You wonder if there's a weekly drawing of straws now to determine whose turn it is to do their time in our forward arc.

              Rather than an off-season list prune we might like to consider a scorched earth policy.
              BORDERLINE FLYING

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              • Mantis
                Hall of Fame
                • Apr 2007
                • 15324

                #8
                Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

                I think they have to be.

                Flogging a dead horse, and the effect on our performance might be minimal, but surely Jong is a better an option than Smith & HC?

                Anyway looking forward to watching our team run around like headless chooks once again.

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                • Remi Moses
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 14785

                  #9
                  Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

                  Shows how lopsided our list is
                  You don’t need 7 key backs in this era

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                  • Greystache
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 9775

                    #10
                    Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

                    You think you're confused now wait until game day when none of these key defenders play as key defenders and we have Bailey Williams and Ed Richards playing deep in defence, while Naughton and Adams play deep forward, Trengove plays high forward, Boyd and Dunkley ruck, Morris plays small, and Cordy plays as a rebounding defender.

                    We could be the most versatile team to be beaten by 10+ goals this round!
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                    • Flamethrower
                      Senior Player
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 1356

                      #11
                      Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

                      Maybe the plan is to triple team Sideshow Bob? I can't wait to see Caleb Daniel line up at full forward next to Majak Daw - little Caleb could hide behind one of Majak's biceps.
                      Footscray member since 1980.

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66169

                        #12
                        Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

                        Originally posted by Mofra
                        ^ BAD I seriously would have given Greene a shot this week.
                        The maybe's I had were the ones that should have been considered.
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                        • Eastdog
                          WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 18235

                          #13
                          Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

                          Originally posted by Remi Moses
                          Shows how lopsided our list is
                          You don’t need 7 key backs in this era
                          We need some mid sized forwards. We dont need that many talls with hoe the game is played right now. A tall forward was important previously but I think not as much now.

                          We need do better in the ruck area as well. Would be good from now to the end of the year to see what Tom Campbell can offer there.

                          I think up forward Josh Schache while its slow will be decent up there as I seen a few times so I'm hoping he is able to do more of it but needs good midfield delivery and right now our midfield looks fragile particularly with Jack Macrae out this week.

                          Our goalkicking is woeful and there is no sweeping it under the carpet at training it must be a priority.
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                          • Axe Man
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 11023

                            #14
                            Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

                            Originally posted by Eastdog
                            We need some mid sized forwards. We dont need that many talls with hoe the game is played right now. A tall forward was important previously but I think not as much now.
                            Will you break it to Ben Brown, Jeremy Cameron, Jesse Hogan, Buddy Franklin, Jack Riewoldt, Josh Kennedy, Tom Lynch, etc that they are all wasting their time and should just retire, or should I?

                            Originally posted by Eastdog
                            I think up forward Josh Schache while its slow will be decent up there as I seen a few times so I'm hoping he is able to do more of it but needs good midfield delivery and right now our midfield looks fragile particularly with Jack Macrae out this week.
                            I have re-read this a few times and still have no idea what you are trying to say.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66169

                              #15
                              Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

                              Originally posted by Axe Man

                              I have re-read this a few times and still have no idea what you are trying to say.
                              Maybe he used Google Translate to convert from Macedonian.
                              FFC: Established 1883

                              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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