Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

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  • 1eyedog
    Hall of Fame
    • Mar 2008
    • 13189

    #16
    Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

    We're like some Mother incubating like players as a breeding ground for other teams.

    There's not much fat on the bone given our injuries. If we we were going to play a glut of key players I would have just brought in Campbell and Jong and played Boyd deep and Schache across half forward.
    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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    • Eastdog
      WOOF Communtiy Organiser
      • Feb 2012
      • 18235

      #17
      Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

      Originally posted by Axe Man
      Will you break it to Ben Brown, Jeremy Cameron, Jesse Hogan, Buddy Franklin, Jack Riewoldt, Josh Kennedy, Tom Lynch, etc that they are all wasting their time and should just retire, or should I?



      I have re-read this a few times and still have no idea what you are trying to say.
      Schache has given us some presence up forward in the games his played I think but that relies on our forward delieveey being good which it hasn't but under those circumstances he has done ok.
      "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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      • Eastdog
        WOOF Communtiy Organiser
        • Feb 2012
        • 18235

        #18
        Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

        Originally posted by bornadog
        Maybe he used Google Translate to convert from Macedonian.
        No I'm certainly not fluent in Macedonian but can understand when my grandma speaks but not every single word.
        "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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        • 1eyedog
          Hall of Fame
          • Mar 2008
          • 13189

          #19
          Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

          I just don't like the fact that we either get torched in the middle by Goldy feeding his mids or having to play against the grain and negatively by sharking and / or applying midfield pressure, something we haven't done for many, many weeks. I'm not comfortable with either scenario but I'm not comfortable with a lot of things atm.
          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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          • Mofra
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 14870

            #20
            Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

            Originally posted by 1eyedog
            I just don't like the fact that we either get torched in the middle by Goldy feeding his mids or having to play against the grain and negatively by sharking and / or applying midfield pressure, something we haven't done for many, many weeks. I'm not comfortable with either scenario but I'm not comfortable with a lot of things atm.
            If there is one player I think is great at anticipating where the ball will be in congestion, it's Macrae. Amazing at finding it so without him and the inevitable smashing in the ruck I am really worried about this one.
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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66182

              #21
              Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

              When you look at the starting line up, it looks ok on balance:

              Full back B Williams J Trengove E Richards
              Half back D Morris Z Cordy J Johannisen
              Centreline H Crozier M Bontempelli L Hunter
              Half forward C Daniel J Schache M Wallis
              Full forward L Dahlhaus B Gowers P Lipinski
              Followers T Boyd T McLean J Dunkley

              but the interchange bench of Honeychurch, Adams, Naughton and Smith is a bit top heavy. I would have left out Naughton and brought in Greene or Jong.
              Adams can play either end and Trengove can also play either end, plus do some ruck work.

              Gowers is not a Full forward, Smith, Honeychurch and Daniel also lucky to be playing.
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              • The Bulldogs Bite
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 11121

                #22
                Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

                I think at this point I would rather play Campbell as a small forward rather than Honeychurch.
                W00F!

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                • mjp
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 7305

                  #23
                  Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  When you look at the starting line up, it looks ok on balance...
                  BAD - You know it doesn't look OK.
                  Adams can play either end? Well, he was drafted as a mature age, key defender. And when he has been effective at AFL level, that is what he has done. Trengove is a defender who played OK at PA during HALF A SEASON when forced to play in the ruck due to injuries. And he played well as a key back last week. Morris is really a key defender. Naughton is a key defender. Cordy is a key defender...

                  That makes FIVE. North are playing one key forward - Brown. So I guess if he gets a hold of us we are going to have options to throw at him.

                  I know we have injuries. I know - I've been watching. But why drop Biggs - I know he isn't a mid but he has at least (in the past) shown an ability to run with the footy? Why not select Jong - pretty sure he was in the centre square for the first bouncedown of the season...has he really fallen THAT far? And are they going that much worse than any number of others?
                  What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                  • Rocket Science
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 4850

                    #24
                    Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

                    Originally posted by Flamethrower
                    Maybe the plan is to triple team Sideshow Bob? I can't wait to see Caleb Daniel line up at full forward next to Majak Daw - little Caleb could hide behind one of Majak's biceps.
                    The number of times Caleb's been isolated down back this year in one-on-ones against opposition forwards does my head in. How are we permitting this?

                    Port even seemed to have a phase last week where they were deliberately going to whoever he was left to mark. And why wouldn't you?
                    BORDERLINE FLYING

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34316

                      #25
                      Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

                      Cue in the rack. I'm sure the players notice this each week too.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66182

                        #26
                        Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

                        Originally posted by mjp
                        BAD - You know it doesn't look OK.
                        Adams can play either end? Well, he was drafted as a mature age, key defender. And when he has been effective at AFL level, that is what he has done. Trengove is a defender who played OK at PA during HALF A SEASON when forced to play in the ruck due to injuries. And he played well as a key back last week. Morris is really a key defender. Naughton is a key defender. Cordy is a key defender...

                        That makes FIVE. North are playing one key forward - Brown. So I guess if he gets a hold of us we are going to have options to throw at him.

                        I know we have injuries. I know - I've been watching. But why drop Biggs - I know he isn't a mid but he has at least (in the past) shown an ability to run with the footy? Why not select Jong - pretty sure he was in the centre square for the first bouncedown of the season...has he really fallen THAT far? And are they going that much worse than any number of others?
                        I agree with you. I did say the starting line up without the interchange.
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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66182

                          #27
                          Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

                          Instead of just firing pot shots, can a few posters say what they would have done for this week. I have made it easy for you showing who is available.

                          I know the selections are weird and any one coming in will not make much difference, but MJP started this thread to see what you would have done better.

                          pot shots are easy solutions are not
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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 44338

                            #28
                            Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            Instead of just firing pot shots, can a few posters say what they would have done for this week. I have made it easy for you showing who is available.

                            I know the selections are weird and any one coming in will not make much difference, but MJP started this thread to see what you would have done better.

                            pot shots are easy solutions are not
                            And to provide a balanced view without blindly following the club or using injuries as an excuse could people also justify why they think the selectors have got it right?
                            Just following the selectors or being critical of one or two soft targets is the fairly easy option
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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44338

                              #29
                              Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

                              I don't think we have balanced the selections this week that well unless Boyd isn't playing and Trengove will be the ruck man supported by Schache

                              I thought Biggs deserved another week and we appear to have rushed back both Morris, Adams and Naughton. I would have considered giving Biggs the task of playing on Higgins
                              Are we wanting to go in with a smaller line-up in the forward line so that the Roos push Daw forward and then we have enough tall defenders to cover them.

                              Jong should have been selected and I think we could have rolled with Greene as well. I might have even been tempted to play Roberts as a forward
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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #30
                                Re: Serious Question: Are the selectors drunk? :-)

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                When you look at the starting line up, it looks ok on balance:

                                Full back B Williams J Trengove E Richards
                                Half back D Morris Z Cordy J Johannisen
                                Centreline H Crozier M Bontempelli L Hunter
                                Half forward C Daniel J Schache M Wallis
                                Full forward L Dahlhaus B Gowers P Lipinski
                                Followers T Boyd T McLean J Dunkley

                                but the interchange bench of Honeychurch, Adams, Naughton and Smith is a bit top heavy. I would have left out Naughton and brought in Greene or Jong.
                                Adams can play either end and Trengove can also play either end, plus do some ruck work.

                                Gowers is not a Full forward, Smith, Honeychurch and Daniel also lucky to be playing.
                                I wouldn't mind seeing us play Trengove as the main Ruck this week and try Boyd and Schache both forward for significant periods. Still not ideal but would balance it out a bit. Team selection for the rest of this year is really more about learning for the future now anyway.

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