If you were Peter Gordon, who would you move on first in a post season review?

[Greystache]

Re: If you were Peter Gordon, who would you move on first in a post season review?

Why do we take out the non soft tissue injuries? We have absolutely had an injury epidemic over the last 3 years. We currently have I believe 11 players missing through injury. That is staggering.

Particularly foot injuries that have nothing to do with collisions/impact. Dale, Williams, English, and previously Adams were all load specific injuries. Obviously the English debacle is particularly damning.

[Bulldog Joe]

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In regard to our injuries playing on a car park regularly sure wouldn't help.

That is just another excuse.

North play on the same ground and have basically no injuries in comparison.

[jeemak]

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Remember, it's not just the type of injury - it's also injury management and recurrence.

[Bornadog]

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That is just another excuse.

North play on the same ground and have basically no injuries in comparison.

They currently have 5 soft tissue issues.

[chef]

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The new Perth stadia has a carpark under it too doesn't it?

[Bornadog]

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Remember, it's not just the type of injury - it's also injury management and recurrence.

Agree with that, as you can't stop ACLs, broken bones, but the management of it is important and how the medicos deal with it.

[MrMahatma]

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If it’s an issue, why wait until season’s end to make a change? Do it now.

[AndrewP6]

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Why do we take out the non soft tissue injuries? We have absolutely had an injury epidemic over the last 3 years. We currently have I believe 11 players missing through injury. That is staggering.

Adelaide, GC, Collingwood and Carlton also have extensive injury lists, several other teams have only slightly lower numbers.

[1eyedog]

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We desperately need a clean out in the medical department. To call it disorganised chaos would be generous and it's been killing the team onfield. There's a real culture of all care and no responsibility combined with a dictatorial leadership structure that deflects blame for failure all round. We turn short term injuries into long term absences, treat chronic injuries appallingly, we make players fit to go sit on the sidelines longer than they need to, then bring back players who are underdone. Our injury prevention program is non-existent and the only way we manage an injury is to wait for it to flair up and put the player on the sidelines for an extended period. It's a shambles.

We clearly have no idea when players are ready to play and when they need to wait to come back, we may some wait while throwing others in early, it's just darts at a dartboard. Consistent injury plagues aren't just luck, and nothing will change unless we change it. I really hope Bains gives this the attention it needs immediately.

Sounds like you've done a reasonably robust assessment then to get all those facts when personnel far closer to inner machinations of the club state otherwise.

The Giants, Suns, Crows have had far worse runs than us, the Pies too. I'm all up for an independent specialised review but to suggest gross incompetence and a sack em' all approach is a little bit too flaming brands and pitch forks for me.

[azabob]

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Because other teams have extensive injury lists doesn’t mean we shouldn’t conduct a review of the medical and fitness department.

Surely improvements can be made. Four major structural foot injuries points to a pattern we are doing something wrong.

[LostDoggy]

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The head of fitness and conditioning has to be in the gun. Recurring soft tissue injuries, poorly managed chronic conditions and more bone stress injuries than anyone.

Near the top of the injury ladder for three years running.

Actually, if I was head of our sports science department, I'd already be looking for a new job.

[Topdog]

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We have 14 players on the injury list at the moment. Only Adelaide have more (15). It has to at least be discussed and we cant simply blame Etihad

[bulldogtragic]

Re: If you were Peter Gordon, who would you move on first in a post season review?

The head of fitness and conditioning has to be in the gun. Recurring soft tissue injuries, poorly managed chronic conditions and more bone stress injuries than anyone.

Near the top of the injury ladder for three years running.

Actually, if I was head of our sports science department, I'd already be looking for a new job.

Hypothetically, if several people in and around Bell (maybe Bell himself) had a mutual positive separation with the club, how many other clubs would hire them/him based on our recent history with sustaining injuries and injury management (their area of responsibility)?

[Bulldog4life]

Re: If you were Peter Gordon, who would you move on first in a post season review?

The head of fitness and conditioning has to be in the gun. Recurring soft tissue injuries, poorly managed chronic conditions and more bone stress injuries than anyone.

Near the top of the injury ladder for three years running.

Actually, if I was head of our sports science department, I'd already be looking for a new job.

There is a 5 year partnership from last October. There won't be any sackings.

http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2017-12-20/bulldogs-vu-create-afl-first-partnership

Members of the Western Bulldogs High Performance Team pictured at Victoria University Whitten Oval: [L-R] Senior Strength Coach Andy Barnett, Physical Performance Manager Dr Mat Inness, Sports Scientist Dr Alice Sweeting, Physical Performance Coach Calvin Philip, GPS Analyst Dave Corbett, Dietitian Claire Saundry. Photo: Liz Vagg.

The Western Bulldogs and Victoria University have today announced an AFL first, with VU becoming the branded partner for the Bulldogs’ High Performance team.

Led by VU alumni and Bulldogs’ Physical Performance Manager Dr Mathew Inness, the Club’s High Performance team contains many who have graduated from the University, or are currently studying.

As of 2017, the team added two PhD graduates, with Dr Inness and Dr Alice Sweeting submitting doctoratal theses examining the effect of altitude training on performance and exploring data mining techniques to analyse team-sport athlete match activity, respectively.

Dr Inness and his team are responsible for the overall physical performance of the players, which is achieved through nutrition, load monitoring and strength and conditioning training.

Dr Sweeting is a Research Fellow (Sport Science) with VU and the Bulldogs. Along with Associate Professor Sam Robertson, the High Performance team is further supported by a number of PhD, Honours and undergraduate students through the partnership with VU.

“I am incredibly proud that the strong connection between Victoria University and the Western Bulldogs will be reinforced through this AFL first,” said Victoria University Vice Chancellor and President Professor Peter Dawkins (AO).

“Over the years, VU sports scientists and students have helped the Western Bulldogs hone their performance and supported the high performance team’s activities, and to have them formally identified on match day is a great acknowledgement of VU’s contribution to the Club.

“I am particularly proud that the team will be led by Dr Inness, who was awarded his PhD in 2017 and exemplifies the amazing pathways this partnership presents for our students.”

In October this year, the Bulldogs and VU announced a five-year extension to their partnership.

“VU have been a long-term partner of the Club and as leaders in Sport Science, not just in Australia but globally, it made complete sense that VU became the partner of our Hgh Performance team,” said Bulldogs’ Director of Football, Chris Grant.

“With so many VU alumni and students working at our football club, it’s great to be able to showcase this link with a partnership such as this.”

The announcement caps off a strong commercial year for the Club, with other significant announcements made during 2017 including the expansion of AFLW partner Bob Jane T-Marts to platinum partner of the men’s team, the renewal of Cape Grim, and the addition of Mercedes-Benz Vans to its portfolio of partners

[Greystache]

Re: If you were Peter Gordon, who would you move on first in a post season review?

Sounds like you've done a reasonably robust assessment then to get all those facts when personnel far closer to inner machinations of the club state otherwise.

The Giants, Suns, Crows have had far worse runs than us, the Pies too. I'm all up for an independent specialised review but to suggest gross incompetence and a sack em' all approach is a little bit too flaming brands and pitch forks for me.

Correct. Those closer to the inner sanctum are also very conscious of not being seen to have failed badly in their role. I do love a good "those in the inner sanctum know best" and "I'll take the expert's opinion over someone else" line of discussion however, because none of them have ever gotten it wrong before. So thanks for that.