If you were Peter Gordon, who would you move on first in a post season review?

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  • Greystache
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Dec 2009
    • 9775

    #46
    Re: If you were Peter Gordon, who would you move on first in a post season review?

    Originally posted by azabob
    Because other teams have extensive injury lists doesn’t mean we shouldn’t conduct a review of the medical and fitness department.

    Surely improvements can be made. Four major structural foot injuries points to a pattern we are doing something wrong.
    They also haven't consistently had injury plagues over past seasons, which kind of gets lost in the injuries are purely a luck thing defence. Adelaide for example barely had an injury last season.

    Originally posted by Topdog
    We have 14 players on the injury list at the moment. Only Adelaide have more (15). It has to at least be discussed and we cant simply blame Etihad
    And as mentioned Adelaide barely had an injury last season. Meanwhile we're consistently near the top.

    Originally posted by Bulldog4life
    There is a 5 year partnership from last October. There won't be any sackings.
    You do realise this is a sponsorship arrangement right?

    You don't seriously believe we'd have locked in all members of a critical department for a 5 year block?
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    • 1eyedog
      Hall of Fame
      • Mar 2008
      • 13190

      #47
      Re: If you were Peter Gordon, who would you move on first in a post season review?

      Originally posted by azabob
      Because other teams have extensive injury lists doesn’t mean we shouldn’t conduct a review of the medical and fitness department.

      Surely improvements can be made. Four major structural foot injuries points to a pattern we are doing something wrong.
      100% agree
      But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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      • Bulldog4life
        WOOF Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 9607

        #48
        Re: If you were Peter Gordon, who would you move on first in a post season review?

        Originally posted by Greystache
        They also haven't consistently had injury plagues over past seasons, which kind of gets lost in the injuries are purely a luck thing defence. Adelaide for example barely had an injury last season.



        And as mentioned Adelaide barely had an injury last season. Meanwhile we're consistently near the top.



        You do realise this is a sponsorship arrangement right?

        You don't seriously believe we'd have locked in all members of a critical department for a 5 year block?
        I realize it is a sponsorship as well. As to how much influence the Vic Uni has over our sports science division, I know it is hard to believe, but even you wouldn't know.

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #49
          Re: If you were Peter Gordon, who would you move on first in a post season review?

          Originally posted by Bulldog4life
          There is a 5 year partnership from last October. There won't be any sackings.

          The Western Bulldogs and Victoria University have today announced an AFL first, with VU becoming the branded partner for the Bulldogs’ high performance team.


          Members of the Western Bulldogs High Performance Team pictured at Victoria University Whitten Oval: [L-R] Senior Strength Coach Andy Barnett, Physical Performance Manager Dr Mat Inness, Sports Scientist Dr Alice Sweeting, Physical Performance Coach Calvin Philip, GPS Analyst Dave Corbett, Dietitian Claire Saundry. Photo: Liz Vagg.

          The Western Bulldogs and Victoria University have today announced an AFL first, with VU becoming the branded partner for the Bulldogs’ High Performance team.

          Led by VU alumni and Bulldogs’ Physical Performance Manager Dr Mathew Inness, the Club’s High Performance team contains many who have graduated from the University, or are currently studying.

          As of 2017, the team added two PhD graduates, with Dr Inness and Dr Alice Sweeting submitting doctoratal theses examining the effect of altitude training on performance and exploring data mining techniques to analyse team-sport athlete match activity, respectively.

          Dr Inness and his team are responsible for the overall physical performance of the players, which is achieved through nutrition, load monitoring and strength and conditioning training.

          Dr Sweeting is a Research Fellow (Sport Science) with VU and the Bulldogs. Along with Associate Professor Sam Robertson, the High Performance team is further supported by a number of PhD, Honours and undergraduate students through the partnership with VU.

          “I am incredibly proud that the strong connection between Victoria University and the Western Bulldogs will be reinforced through this AFL first,” said Victoria University Vice Chancellor and President Professor Peter Dawkins (AO).

          “Over the years, VU sports scientists and students have helped the Western Bulldogs hone their performance and supported the high performance team’s activities, and to have them formally identified on match day is a great acknowledgement of VU’s contribution to the Club.

          “I am particularly proud that the team will be led by Dr Inness, who was awarded his PhD in 2017 and exemplifies the amazing pathways this partnership presents for our students.”

          In October this year, the Bulldogs and VU announced a five-year extension to their partnership.

          “VU have been a long-term partner of the Club and as leaders in Sport Science, not just in Australia but globally, it made complete sense that VU became the partner of our Hgh Performance team,” said Bulldogs’ Director of Football, Chris Grant.

          “With so many VU alumni and students working at our football club, it’s great to be able to showcase this link with a partnership such as this.”

          The announcement caps off a strong commercial year for the Club, with other significant announcements made during 2017 including the expansion of AFLW partner Bob Jane T-Marts to platinum partner of the men’s team, the renewal of Cape Grim, and the addition of Mercedes-Benz Vans to its portfolio of partners
          Using the term 'High performance' in reference to our sports science program seems to be the very essence of oxymoronic.

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34316

            #50
            Re: If you were Peter Gordon, who would you move on first in a post season review?

            Originally posted by Red White Blue
            Using the term 'High performance' in reference to our sports science program seems to be the very essence of oxymoronic.
            Funny!

            Perhaps 'no performance' would be more apt. There's 15 professional footballers at our club, owing to injury, giving no performance this week.
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            • 1eyedog
              Hall of Fame
              • Mar 2008
              • 13190

              #51
              Re: If you were Peter Gordon, who would you move on first in a post season review?

              Originally posted by Greystache
              Correct. Those closer to the inner sanctum are also very conscious of not being seen to have failed badly in their role. I do love a good "those in the inner sanctum know best" and "I'll take the expert's opinion over someone else" line of discussion however, because none of them have ever gotten it wrong before. So thanks for that.
              Correct, really? Tell us more of this robust assessment you've undertaken. Looked at medical data sheets,
              spoke to players / interviewed the medical team / thoroughly reviewed rehab programs or have you just scoured injury lists and heard Chinese whispers from others? Or just lashing out because you don't understand what's happening? Seriously, I certainly have faith in upper management to get it as right as possible. There are too many internal and external specialists constantly monitoring injuries.

              Tristan Tweedie came to the club with a serious leg injury and he has told me direct the clubs management and on going rehabilitation was exemplary. I'm not saying they don't get things wrong but they do mitigate injuries as much as possible, and club medicos are always talking to other club medicos and when an injury occurs you can be sure the rehabilitation program is not solely devised by the club. Every injury goes through Epworth where numerous independent specialists provide professional advice back to the club.

              I'm not looking through rose coloured glasses I acknowledge our injury list is deplorable and our practices must be reviewed. I just need all the facts in order to make an informed decision. Especially when peoples jobs / relationships are on the line.
              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66188

                #52
                Re: If you were Peter Gordon, who would you move on first in a post season review?

                Originally posted by Red White Blue
                Using the term 'High performance' in reference to our sports science program seems to be the very essence of oxymoronic.
                Come on - you are now just being another troll.
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                • Greystache
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 9775

                  #53
                  Re: If you were Peter Gordon, who would you move on first in a post season review?

                  Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                  I realize it is a sponsorship as well. As to how much influence the Vic Uni has over our sports science division, I know it is hard to believe, but even you wouldn't know.
                  So what point were you trying to make by posting that old article? That we have a sponsorship with VU? They also sponsor the ground by the way, does that influence the type of grass we can use?
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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66188

                    #54
                    Re: If you were Peter Gordon, who would you move on first in a post season review?

                    Originally posted by Greystache
                    So what point were you trying to make by posting that old article? That we have a sponsorship with VU? They also sponsor the ground by the way, does that influence the type of grass we can use?
                    Isn't more than just sponsorship with VU? I thought we worked with their sports science department. To what extent I am not sure.
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                    • Greystache
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 9775

                      #55
                      Re: If you were Peter Gordon, who would you move on first in a post season review?

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Isn't more than just sponsorship with VU? I thought we worked with their sports science department. To what extent I am not sure.
                      They provide resources and access to equipment at no cost. We provide their students access to elite athletes for education purposes, plus they throw in some sponsorship money on top for branding. It's a mutually beneficial arrangement arrangement that's particularly helpful to a less wealthy club like ours. We however decide the training, strengthening, rehab, and injury prevention programs, VU offer us support in doing it.
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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #56
                        Re: If you were Peter Gordon, who would you move on first in a post season review?

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        Come on - you are now just being another troll.
                        Come back when you can explain how 3 BSIs and recurring ST injuries like Wood and Dickson is 'high performance'. And its not like its a one off bad yr either. And maybe try discussing without name calling.

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                        • Missing-Dog
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 3102

                          #57
                          Re: If you were Peter Gordon, who would you move on first in a post season review?

                          Injuries and reviews aside, Peter Gordon's first job in the post season should be a complete overhaul of the hospitality staff in the Victory Room .

                          The slow service of alcohol message gets confused with the responsible service of alcohol message. All jokes aside, it does take far too long to get a beer at the bar.

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                          • Twodogs
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 27654

                            #58
                            Re: If you were Peter Gordon, who would you move on first in a post season review?

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            Isn't more than just sponsorship with VU? I thought we worked with their sports science department. To what extent I am not sure.
                            Originally posted by Greystache
                            They provide resources and access to equipment at no cost. We provide their students access to elite athletes for education purposes, plus they throw in some sponsorship money on top for branding. It's a mutually beneficial arrangement arrangement that's particularly helpful to a less wealthy club like ours. We however decide the training, strengthening, rehab, and injury prevention programs, VU offer us support in doing it.
                            I think they called it a co-partnership when it was announced.
                            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                            • Axe Man
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 11028

                              #59
                              Re: If you were Peter Gordon, who would you move on first in a post season review?

                              Originally posted by craigsahibee
                              Injuries and reviews aside, Peter Gordon's first job in the post season should be a complete overhaul of the hospitality staff in the Victory Room .

                              The slow service of alcohol message gets confused with the responsible service of alcohol message. All jokes aside, it does take far too long to get a beer at the bar.
                              Agreed. Last week a woman gave another a mouthful after she let about 5 of her friends/family cut in the very long bar line.

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 66188

                                #60
                                Re: If you were Peter Gordon, who would you move on first in a post season review?

                                Originally posted by Red White Blue
                                Come back when you can explain how 3 BSIs and recurring ST injuries like Wood and Dickson is 'high performance'. And its not like its a one off bad yr either. And maybe try discussing without name calling.
                                Oxymoronic - that is great way to discuss this subject matter.
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