Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

[Ozza]

Re: Nearly Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

He's been passed by the likes of Rioli, Butler, Castangna, Higgins & Bolton.

There's also a game style element to it. Richmond's manic, handball and forward pressure type style suits the players above more than it does Lloyd.

If the last few rounds of our season are anything to go by, a higher kick/mark game may be more suitable for Lloyd to fit into (which is how Hardwick had the Tigers play in 2015/16 when Lloyd played the majority of games.

[Happy Days]

Re: Nearly Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

Of Richmond in Premiership year, then a preliminary final year. Sure.

Of our squad. He's probably best 22.

Not every acquisition can be a big exciting one. Sometimes a Hamling or a Biggs wins you a premiership.

There's deeper analysis to it than that though. Biggs and Hamling weren't necessarily picked up because they were outside of good 22s, but were identified as players of a particular skill set and talent that we thought could add something to the side.

Not to say that this isn't why Lloyd has identified, but just stating that its a hard side to break into and leaving the justification there isn't sufficient. That's how you end up with Tim Callan.

[SquirrelGrip]

Re: Nearly Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

There's deeper analysis to it than that though. Biggs and Hamling weren't necessarily picked up because they were outside of good 22s, but were identified as players of a particular skill set and talent that we thought could add something to the side.

Not to say that this isn't why Lloyd has identified, but just stating that its a hard side to break into and leaving the justification there isn't sufficient. That's how you end up with Tim Callan.

Yes, I agree. Plus if you look at the big changes made psychologically by Nathan Buckley his year and Hardwick last year, it was about focusing on the 95% positives rather than negatives. Watching Sam Lloyd’s highlights videos has made me a lot more excited than I had been. He has serious upside with his attacking and goal kicking ability, as long as we have others who compliment his down side. Biggs and Hamling too weren’t great players but we were able to focus on what they were good at and get them to do that as well as possible.

Lloyd has forward nouse and knows where the goals are. Let’s maximise that part of his game.

[ledge]

Re: Nearly Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

Yes, I agree. Plus if you look at the big changes made psychologically by Nathan Buckley his year and Hardwick last year, it was about focusing on the 95% positives rather than negatives. Watching Sam Lloyd’s highlights videos has made me a lot more excited than I had been. He has serious upside with his attacking and goal kicking ability, as long as we have others who compliment his down side. Biggs and Hamling too weren’t great players but we were able to focus on what they were good at and get them to do that as well as possible.

Lloyd has forward nouse and knows where the goals are. Let’s maximise that part of his game.

Not sure about serious upside you do realise he is 29

[lemmon]

Re: Nearly Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

Overview career stats:

28yo
180cm
83kg

57 Games
69 Goals
33 Behinds (Better than 66%)

Averages, give or take:

14 disposals
4 marks
3 tackles
2.5 inside 50's
.5 goal assists
2 shots at goal (going at 66% conversion)

Wonder how those average stats compare to a guy like Nathan Hrovat?

[SquirrelGrip]

Re: Nearly Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

Not sure about serious upside you do realise he is 29

What I mean is that he can play better for us than he did at Richmond. Whether that’s AFL or VFL, who knows. But 2 years from him at a decent level is about the right expectation for a small forward of his age.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Nearly Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

Wonder how those average stats compare to a guy like Nathan Hrovat?

Hrovat has more games, 64
35 goals
27 behinds (not a heap better than a 50/50 goal accuracy)

16 disposals
3 marks
2.5 tackles
2.2 I50
.4 GA
Less than 1 shot on goal a game, not much over 50% accuracy

Lloyd has Hrovat covered by virtually all stat measures.

[Mofra]

Re: Nearly Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

Costs nothing but likely to play plenty of football with us. God knows we need some quality forward of the ball.
On his career averages he'd finish in the top 3 for our goalkicking award.

[Bornadog]

Re: Nearly Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

Costs nothing but likely to play plenty of football with us. God knows we need some quality forward of the ball.
On his career averages he'd finish in the top 3 for our goalkicking award.

That won't be hard, last two years our goal kicking award was won by 24 goals and 26 this year

[ReLoad]

Re: Nearly Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

Any chance we can get Kretiuk to whack him in the hands a few times just for ol' times sake?

[lemmon]

Re: Nearly Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

Don't think he's quite what we need - would prefer a quick, pressure forward - but if he adds some maturity and hits the scoreboard it's a win

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Nearly Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

Seems paperwork is being lodged.

Best drop the nearly out mods!

[GVGjr]

Re: Nearly Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

Seems paperwork is being lodged.

Best drop the nearly out mods!

Asked and answered

[GVGjr]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

For pick 64 apparently.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

For pick 64 apparently.

Must not think we need those 100 draft points.