Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

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  • Mofra
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 14868

    #76
    Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

    Playing the dead zone at half forward and providing a genuine option.

    I like Sam but I'm thinking it will be hard to continue to play Lloyd and Dickson in the same side. He's a genuine goal kicker which we lack.
    Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66094

      #77
      Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

      Originally posted by Go_Dogs
      I was worried when he snapped around his body and hit the post. Go back and kick that one Sam!

      He's been solid and I think he's going to be tough to dislodge now.
      Why in the world players like to kick around the body. That was really disappointing, but overall I think he was a little nervous against his old team
      FFC: Established 1883

      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • EasternWest
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Aug 2009
        • 9993

        #78
        Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

        Originally posted by bornadog
        Why in the world players like to kick around the body. That was really disappointing, but overall I think he was a little nervous against his old team
        I get it if kicking isn't your strong point, but Sam is a good kick.

        For once that screaming lady was right: "kick it properly".
        "It's over. It's all over."

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        • Bulldog Joe
          Premiership Moderator
          • Jul 2009
          • 5498

          #79
          Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

          Originally posted by Go_Dogs
          I was worried when he snapped around his body and hit the post. Go back and kick that one Sam!

          He's been solid and I think he's going to be tough to dislodge now.
          When I watched that, I thought he had blown the game. The kick in was rebounded for a direct shot by Martin. Fortunately Martin missed, but it had the potential to be a game changer the wrong way.

          It was irresponsible and a supposedly good goal kicker should merely have gone back and taken his time to slot the goal.

          At that moment he was in my drop next week list.
          Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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          • Twodogs
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 27654

            #80
            Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Why in the world players like to kick around the body. That was really disappointing, but overall I think he was a little nervous against his old team
            Technique. There is a theory that you expose more of the goalmouth if you turn your face away from the goal and kick it across your body. Especially if you are on the 'wrong' side for the foot you are kicking with. I get why they do it and sometimes it is the right thing to do. But a lot of players who don't understand the technique properly go with it every time they have a shot and just muck it up.


            A lot of the time it's simpler to not turn and just straighten up and kick through the ball properly.
            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66094

              #81
              Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

              Originally posted by Twodogs
              Technique. There is a theory that you expose more of the goalmouth if you turn your face away from the goal and kick it across your body. Especially if you are on the 'wrong' side for the foot you are kicking with. I get why they do it and sometimes it is the right thing to do. But a lot of players who don't understand the technique properly go with it every time they have a shot and just muck it up.

              A lot of the time it's simpler to not turn and just straighten up and kick through the ball properly.
              I can understand if you are on a very acute angle, but Sam was dead in front
              FFC: Established 1883

              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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              • AshMac
                Senior Player
                • Aug 2018
                • 1714

                #82
                Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

                Say what you want about tigers fans - I’ve sat near some horrendous ones over the years - I did notice they didn’t boo Lloyd.

                The irony for his situation is he would almost certainly be playing games for ten this year.
                The dam wall has busted!

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                • Twodogs
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 27654

                  #83
                  Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  I can understand if you are on a very acute angle, but Sam was dead in front
                  Yep, players are using it as their normal kick to shoot at goal now. I can only think that they don't actually fully understand what circumstances they should use the kick around the body under. It's a really difficult maneuver to pull off and hit your foot with the footy in the right time and space to get it to bend properly. A lot of times the player would be better off straightening up, facing the goalmouth and kicking through the ball properly.

                  Bloody South Australians started it with their reverse screw kicks.
                  They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66094

                    #84
                    Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

                    Originally posted by Twodogs
                    Bloody South Australians started it with their reverse screw kicks.
                    Check side
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                    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                    • Twodogs
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 27654

                      #85
                      Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Check side
                      That's the one. Blight was the first one I can remember kicking it across his body from the opposite pocket regularly.
                      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                      • ledge
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 14116

                        #86
                        Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

                        Played a really good game Saturday, was up and about and all over the place , laid a great tackle, only downside I saw was his pace in chasing at one stage.
                        Bring back the biff

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                        • 1eyedog
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 13186

                          #87
                          Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

                          Originally posted by ledge
                          Played a really good game Saturday, was up and about and all over the place , laid a great tackle, only downside I saw was his pace in chasing at one stage.
                          Agreed but he's smart enough to cover his lack of pace ala Gia
                          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34316

                            #88
                            Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

                            15 Games

                            25 Goals (1.7 per game, club leading)
                            18 Behinds
                            8 Goal Assists

                            Ranked 15th for total goals kicked in the entire comp
                            Ranked 13th for total marks inside 50 in the entire comp



                            Traded for pick 64
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66094

                              #89
                              Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

                              Has been a great addition
                              FFC: Established 1883

                              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                              • whythelongface
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 4381

                                #90
                                Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Sam Lloyd

                                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                                15 Games

                                25 Goals (1.7 per game)
                                18 Behinds
                                8 Goal Assists

                                Ranked 15th for total goals kicked in the entire comp
                                Ranked 13th for total marks inside 50 in the entire comp
                                Great stats. He has been fantastic for us. The vision and kick to Naughton was terrific, followed by the goal from 45m out.

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