Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

[comrade]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Bailey's got this weird thing with his kicking where he's like the opposite of Daniel and Macrae, he can only kick it really straight so he has this Redpath sized turning circle because he can't kick around the corner. He will banana it or use his left if he doesn't have time to turn because he can't kick it inside out or with a bent leg. If you apply frontal pressure to him he tries to use his pace to sort of run around then kick back to his target on an angle which he miskicks a lot

He's really good with low kicks to a leading player and accurate long kicks though

Yeah, it’s a good point and it’s frustrating. I don’t know whether he lacks agility or he doesn’t trust his kicking depth to cut back inside on the angle but he’s basically a straight line footballer only and opposition have worked out how to pressure him into making mistakes.

[comrade]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

I think composure will come with experience. I don't think he has disposal issues I think he has issues with composure under pressure and I think these will be ironed out in the next 12 months. He's an out and out super star and while he's not untouchable talk of trading him is bordering on ludicrous.

Collingwood says they'll trade Darcy Moore in exchange for Baz, what do you say?

[Bornadog]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Collingwood says they'll trade Darcy Moore in exchange for Baz, what do you say?

Done

[soupman]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Collingwood says they'll trade Darcy Moore in exchange for Baz, what do you say?

I'd throw them a draft pick as well to secure it.

[Grantysghost]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Collingwood says they'll trade Darcy Moore in exchange for Baz, what do you say?

The Pies would never entertain a Moore trade. But yes.

[1eyedog]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Collingwood says they'll trade Darcy Moore in exchange for Baz, what do you say?

Sam Power is already signing the paperwork.

Like I said he's not untouchable but Moore really would be the perfect player for us.

[comrade]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Cool, so everyone is on the same page as me.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Cool, so everyone is on the same page as me.

So a straight swap?

Smith about $350,000-$400,000 next year
Moore on $825,000 next year

Clubs swapping contract. Or you pay Moore, we pay Smith ($400,000 difference)

[jeemak]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Baz is definitely tradeable, like pretty much anyone. Just has to be a super sexy offer.

I can start a trade Baz thread any time anyone wants me to. It's almost a year ago to the day that I started that other trade thread.

[Axe Man]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

So a straight swap?

Smith about $350,000-$400,000 next year
Moore on $825,000 next year

Clubs swapping contract. Or you pay Moore, we pay Smith ($400,000 difference)

Even Ned Guy after a week long bender wouldn't do that deal. Maybe throw in Will Hayes as a sweetener?

[comrade]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Baz is definitely tradeable, like pretty much anyone. Just has to be a super sexy offer.

I can start a trade Baz thread any time anyone wants me to. It's almost a year ago to the day that I started that other trade thread.

Baz is our most tradeable asset by far, imo, in terms of being able to get a substantial return AND not having a significant impact on our performance if we lost him.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Even Ned Guy after a week long bender wouldn't do that deal. Maybe throw in Will Hayes as a sweetener?

It was a question. The word ‘Or’ tends to indicate multiple options given to the contributor. Along with the preceding question about straight swap. I wanted to understand the terms of a proposed trade. You can keep Hayes.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Baz is our most tradeable asset by far, imo, in terms of being able to get a substantial return AND not having a significant impact on our performance if we lost him.

Still a chance he becomes our best mid in 2 years though.

I think he gets lost in space which is why he isn't effective as a winger. He's best used in the heat of the battle, using his pace to break away from stoppage. Unfortunately his disposal by hand is awful, so he's prone to errors which can be costly. I think his kicking is fine, but his decision making is average.

For mine he won't catch Sam Walsh, Sam's just a better and more complete player. But Smith can still become a top line mid in the game.

Smith is at his best playing on edge - he took this out of his game after Derm's comments earlier in the year and it took him a long while to find it again. Post bye he's been very good, last week he was poor.

I want to see him keep working on his positioning (it can be really bad defensively at times) and ball handling (needs to improve his hands).

[jazzadogs]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

I think if Baz was in a team where he wasn't the fifth or sixth best midfielder (almost any other team in the competition), he would be shining a lot brighter. Walsh has had an amazing year as Carlton's #1 - I wonder how Baz would have looked with the same opportunity and consistency of role?

Baz for Moore, maybe Weitering, I would consider - but I would also be disappointed. I think our long-term future will benefit from having Baz in the side, he is a genuine A-grade talent.

[Grantysghost]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Baz is our most tradeable asset by far, imo, in terms of being able to get a substantial return AND not having a significant impact on our performance if we lost him.

I'm not sure about that. He has speed that not many of our mids possess. Treloar now yes, but he only has a couple of years left. I wouldn't be trading him.