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  • Mofra
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    • Dec 2006
    • 15115

    #1

    Round 11 Dogs vs Lions

    Western Bulldogs vs Brisbane Lions, Saturday 14th June, MCG 2:10pm
    (Yes, a day early however I may be busy tomorrow)


    FORM THIS SEASON:
    Bulldogs: 9 wins, 1 draw, 1 Loss (3rd)
    Lions: 7 wins, 4 losses (6th)

    The Bulldogs second win in 7 weeks against the Saints (a bogey team of recent times) proves the new-look Bulldogs outfit to be a genuine contender (despite what Grant Thomas thinks). Although the Saints did pretty up the scoreboard with a number of junk time goals, this was in part due to Eade's plan at 3 quarter time to play all the kids in different positions to offer some genuine gametime to the pups. All the more pleasing was reaching the 100 point margin for the 11th straight time this season, and doing so without (arguably) our real best mid-sized forward, Robert Murphy. Akermanis lifted in his absence, with 11 shots on goal (6.4, 1 not making the distance) which included some tight angle set shots that he duly iced. Boyd showed his late 2007 form was no fluke, with 34 touches in his 101st game, whilst Gia's 4 goals from limited gametime showed just how important he is as an impact player.
    This was a win on the back of perhaps a season defining victory against ladder-leaders Hawthorn, who, despite injuries to a few key runners, looked out of sorts against a ferocious Bulldog outfit. The Bulldogs have lifted their intensity in the past two weeks, noticeably in their attack on the ball after a smarting loss to North Melbourne two weeks ago and appear to again be on the improve.

    Meanwhile the Lions with 20 fit players cruised to 22 point victory against a Dockers side which has clearly lost it's mojo. Black continued his brilliant season with a BOG performance, whilst silky midfielder Travis Johnstone (3 goals) and the designated Brisbane quarterback Joel McDonald (30 touches) were influential. Big Jon Brown (15 marks, 22 possies) also kicked 3 for the Lions as the major focal point after Bradshaw left the field in the 3rd quarter with a hamstring injury. Brisbane have now put together 3 wins in a row and appear to be in some serious form heading into the clash with the mighty Doggies.


    PLAYERS MISSING - TEAM SELECTION:

    The Bulldogs will miss Shaun Higgins for a few more weeks at least, along with some bloke called Scott who is rumoured to have played a game or two. Lake hurt his knee against the Saints but played on after quarter time and is expected to play on Saturday. Murphy should be back after having a week's holiday due to Xavier Ellis head-butting his shoulder, although he would have missed the Saints clash anyway with gout.

    The Lions have their own injury worries with Bradshaw carrying a hamstring (a common occurrence for players coming back from ACLs, as Bulldogs fans are sadly all too aware of). Scott Harding didn't play after 3 quarter time as well, although he continued to cycle and warm up on the sidelines.
    Brown is carrying an injured knee however it seems even an amputation wouldn't be enough to stop him from playing these days. Nigel Lappin & Colm Begley are at least a fortnight away, whilst Ash McGrath, Jason Fishegg and Josh Drummond all a chance to return.


    LAST MEETING:

    Round 11 2007, Gabba (Night Match)
    Apologies - no official match report available.

    Bulldogs 6.8 7.12 13.15 13.17.95
    Lions 2.3 2.7 7.8 10.12.72

    Johnno bagged 4 (all in the first half)
    Notting & Brennan both kicked 3 for the lions

    Ash McGrath being a late withdrawal for the game, this match marked the return of Aker to the Gabba, and the locals let him know all about it, although an Aker mark & goal in the first quarter silenced the crowd somewhat. Johnno starred early with 4 first-half goals, whilst Hahn kicked a contender for goal of the week early in the 3rd. The Bulldogs stopped dead in the last quarter with injuries to Griffen (a season-ending owie with a bad knee) and Cross restricting our run on the night, and eventually our season as losing runners began to take it's toll on our 2007 fortunes. Jared Brennan (rated highly by Clayton) kicked a brilliant goal for the home team but at the end of the night the most enduring image was of Aker's handstand in the centre circle to the rousing boos of the Lions faithful.


    KEY DUELS:

    Backline:
    HF: Johnstone, Brown, Selwood
    HB: Addison, Lake, Gilbee
    F: Hooper, Clark, Rischitelli
    B: Shaggy, Williams, Morris

    Jon Brown vs Brian Lake - The big one. Lake should come up with a knee whilst the pressure will be on Brown to lead the team as Bradshaw is likely to miss. Brown may try to lead up the ground to take Lake away from his goalrectangle (the natural habitat of Lakus Brawnus) and if he does so Tommygun may be switched onto him

    Addison vs Johnstone - Johnstone has been sent forward as well as playing on the wing, DFA can run with a player in both positions.

    Rhan Hooper vs Shaggy Hargrave - Hargrave has been playing on smalls this season, and after flogging both Mark Williams (the Hawthorn chocker, not the coach of the Port chockers) and Farmer in successive weeks, should be able to contain the only Lion with a first name as bad as Farren.

    Mitch Clark vs Tom Williams - Young KPP prospects, Clark should play forward in the absence of Bradshaw as well. Williams would feel more comfortable at home in defence. Without Clark in the Lions forward line, Williams should look to go to a resting Leunburger

    Selwood may try to play a negating role on Gilbee, Morris to take Rischitelli who has been in fine form. Should a Leunberger or Charman rest forward, Morris to go to Clark and Williams to go to the resting ruckman.


    Midfield:
    Sherman vs Cooney - The Sherminator has been handed some serious tagging jobs this year, and although he struggled against first year wonder Rhys Palmer last week, would be expecting a big week against (arguably) our best midfielder for 2008 in the Coondog.

    Boyd vs Black - Both are in steller form, Black possibly leading the B&F at the Lions whilst Boyd is in career best form, racking up 34 touches whilst beating Dal Santo last week.

    Charman vs Hudson - Huddo looks like he should be okay to play, will need to be on his game against the aggressive Charman. The Burger may be a little too mobile around the ground for our rucks however it is our power at the stoppages that would worry Lethal most. Interstingly the Burger is only 1 clearance behind Charman at this stage of the season.

    Would expect Cross to go with Power whilst Griffen & Adcock to run together where rotations allow, although the spped of interchange rotations in teh mdifield these days makes direct match-ups hard to predict.

    Forwards:
    Tiller vs McDonald - Tiller may be asked to play a defensive forward role on the dangerous McDonald whose rebound has sparkled many a forward Lion thrust.

    Brennan vs Murphy - Brennan has been playing in defence this year, and his mobility and overhead ability should make this a cracking contest.

    Minson vs Merrett - The big ranga is a genuine top line FB, and is probably the only Lions big enough to go with Wilbur

    Johnson vs Drummond/Roe - One of the Lions should return this week, leaving Patful for Aker. Both can play a taller role which means they can match Johnno overhead.


    WHO WILL WIN AND WHY:

    Whilst only Hawthorn have the better 1 & 2 tall forward combo in the AFL, the loss of Bradshaw is massive for the Lions. The key will be in the midfield, where the Lions have a strong contested gameplan based on Lethal's team rules which reward hard efforts. The Bulldogs should be able to match them in this area, with Cooney, Griffen, Cross, Boyd, Eagle, Ray & Gia in the centre rotations comparing favourably with Power, Adcock, Black, Corrie, Notting and perhaps Rischitelli & Johnstone.
    The Lions have had an (arguably) tough draw so far this year although the Bulldogs have played 4 of the 7 other teams in the 8, with away wins against the Hawks & Swans being highlights showing interstate travel isn't a huge problem for the pups.
    The larger MCG should help the run of the Bulldogs who almost doubled the running bounce total of the Saints last week.

    With an unpredictable forwardline, Cooney having a quiet game by his standards last week due to bounce back and Aker is sparkling form (and extra motivation against his old side), I'm predicting a 17 point win to the doggies.
    Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers
  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 45529

    #2
    Re: Round 11 Dogs vs Lions

    This should be a great game.

    The Lions midfield can really test ours plus they have Jonathon Brown who is a difficult one for us to cover. I'm sure there will also be a heap made of another return bout between Akermanis and his former team mates as well.

    Mofra, I think you have the match-ups about right but I can't see Brennan lining up on Murphy. If he plays forward who would you pit against him?
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    • dog town
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2007
      • 1925

      #3
      Re: Round 11 Dogs vs Lions

      The lions are a really good side. Just well drilled around the contests and keep things pretty simple. They would have been looking forward to a challenge like this as well. Should be a cracker of a game. Bradshaw being out probably sways the game in our favour. They will be hunting us so we cant afford to have an off day.

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      • Mofra
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 15115

        #4
        Re: Round 11 Dogs vs Lions

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        Mofra, I think you have the match-ups about right but I can't see Brennan lining up on Murphy. If he plays forward who would you pit against him?
        I initially had him forward for some X-Factor with Morris on him, however the Lions fans I've seen (or have posted on other sites) can't wait to see him vs Murphy go head to head.
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        • Mantis
          Hall of Fame
          • Apr 2007
          • 15547

          #5
          Re: Round 11 Dogs vs Lions

          Will be our last game at the G before the finals, if we make them.

          Would have loved the Lions to be at full strength for this one, because if we do get over them there will still be excuses made for them as they will be missing players, much like our win over Hawthorn.

          Our midfield will have to be right on the game, Brisbane as we all know have a very talented midfield group so we will have to be accountable through the middle.

          An area of improvement for Brisbane has been the inclusion and improvement in Hooper and Corrie who have added some much needed forward pressure. It is almost a neccessity to have a couple of small aboriginal players in your forwardline to help to create some pressure inside your F50.

          The game will come down to if we can get enough clean supply to our multi dimensional and multi talented forwardline. As Aker stated in the papers this morning we rely on few and get contributions from many. If Aker is quiet (which he hasn't been for a while) Johnson might bop up, same with Hahn, Murf, Welsh, the list goes on.

          By the way Mofra who is Jason Fishegg?

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          • Sockeye Salmon
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 6365

            #6
            Re: Round 11 Dogs vs Lions

            Originally posted by Mantis
            An area of improvement for Brisbane has been the inclusion and improvement in Hooper and Corrie who have added some much needed forward pressure. It is almost a neccessity to have a couple of small aboriginal players in your forwardline to help to create some pressure inside your F50.

            You mean like Gia, Aker and Hahn? Why do they have to be aboriginal as long as they chase and tackle?


            Originally posted by Mantis
            By the way Mofra who is Jason Fishegg?
            Roe

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            • Mofra
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 15115

              #7
              Re: Round 11 Dogs vs Lions

              Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
              You mean like Gia, Aker and Hahn? Why do they have to be aboriginal as long as they chase and tackle?
              I take his point - the strong goalsneak-tackling-X factor type forward pockets are almost always aboriginal kids.
              Aker is a freak who provides all this - yet has a special relationship with the brothers.
              Perhaps we should widen the group to include those of us with Greek heritage (I dips my lid to my grandmother and Zeno Tzatsaris)

              Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
              Roe
              Yup - heard someone yell it out at a pub
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              • Dry Rot
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 6471

                #8
                Re: Round 11 Dogs vs Lions

                Great preview Mofra. Lots of good contests there with Murphy v Brennan one of the best.

                It's live on TV up here but I've got to go to a bloody wedding. Hope there's a tele at the reception....
                The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                • Sockeye Salmon
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6365

                  #9
                  Re: Round 11 Dogs vs Lions

                  Originally posted by Dry Rot
                  Great preview Mofra. Lots of good contests there with Murphy v Brennan one of the best.

                  It's live on TV up here but I've got to go to a bloody wedding. Hope there's a tele at the reception....
                  Unless it's your wedding I'd tell them you're sorry and give it a miss.

                  If it is your wedding tell her to stop being so bloody silly and put it off until October.

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                  • The Doctor
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 3709

                    #10
                    Re: Round 11 Dogs vs Lions

                    Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                    If it is your wedding tell her to stop being so bloody silly and put it off until October.
                    that's what I did!
                    Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                    • Sockeye Salmon
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6365

                      #11
                      Re: Round 11 Dogs vs Lions

                      Originally posted by The Doctor
                      that's what I did!
                      I got married Anzac day because I knew we wouldn't be playing.

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                      • Mantis
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 15547

                        #12
                        Re: Round 11 Dogs vs Lions

                        Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                        You mean like Gia, Aker and Hahn? Why do they have to be aboriginal as long as they chase and tackle?
                        The aboriginal player's seem to have the acceleration off the mark that few other's have.

                        Our forward pressure has certainly improved this year without the help of an aboriginal player, but I think he could be better, a player like Harbrow or a switched on Lynch would certainly add something.

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                        • Go_Dogs
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 10251

                          #13
                          Re: Round 11 Dogs vs Lions

                          Brisbane are pretty underrated, (although starting to get some plaudits) and we should be worried imo. Bradshaw out is a big help if he doesn't pull up, which at this stage is looking to be the case.

                          The thing they do so well is that they have all these guys who do their jobs, and do them well. Players like Roe, who has been mentioned, and Patfull whom I saw a lot of during his time at Norwood and on the Power rookie list. I wouldn't be surprised to see one of those kids given a big job on perhaps a Murphy, Johnson or Welsh.

                          They still have a quality on ball unit, and a few potential match winners. Their run and carry, contested ball and skill level are all pretty good, plus they can play dour football in their back half.


                          With Bradshaw going out, do we drop a tall or 2 and bring in some more runners?
                          Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                          • The Doctor
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 3709

                            #14
                            Re: Round 11 Dogs vs Lions

                            Originally posted by Mofra
                            Jon Brown vs Brian Lake - The big one. Lake should come up with a knee whilst the pressure will be on Brown to lead the team as Bradshaw is likely to miss. Brown may try to lead up the ground to take Lake away from his goalrectangle (the natural habitat of Lakus Brawnus) and if he does so Tommygun may be switched onto him
                            If Brown leads up the ground I'll be very happy, especially with Bradshaw out. That would mean their best 2 forwards are not in the scoring zone.

                            Brown likes to lead straight or to the 2 o'clock position inside the 50m arc. He will often mark around 40 - 50m in this area meaning he has a fairly straight shot at goal or on a slight angle. This is the space we need to protect because this where Brown does most of his scoring damage. If we can do this it will take him from his comfort zone forcing to either lead wider to the boundary or to the left side which he doesn't seem to like doing.

                            How we protect that space will be interesting. In the old days the ruckman would drop into the hole. Perhaps we drop a few numbers back into the lead space.
                            Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                            • Mofra
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 15115

                              #15
                              Re: Round 11 Dogs vs Lions

                              Originally posted by The Doctor
                              Brown likes to lead straight or to the 2 o'clock position inside the 50m arc. He will often mark around 40 - 50m in this area meaning he has a fairly straight shot at goal or on a slight angle. This is the space we need to protect because this where Brown does most of his scoring damage. If we can do this it will take him from his comfort zone forcing to either lead wider to the boundary or to the left side which he doesn't seem to like doing.
                              Interesting you mention this because whenever DFA isn't glued to his man, that is pretty much where he is (often being ignored by his teamates standing by himself on the opposition turnovers).

                              It is also interesting because when the Saints played a man behind the ball last week, we didn't seem to have the extra man sitting in the opposition F50; we had someone who could run forward or at least provide a contest in the centre of the ground, basically followed the opposition extra backman to make them accountable.

                              Will be keen to see how Eade lines the boys up this week. FWIW Herald Sun have Lake in doubt which would put pressure on Tommygun to step up again in a big way.
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