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  • AshMac
    Senior Player
    • Aug 2018
    • 1714

    #76
    Re: Our game plan / style / tactics are solid

    just going back to our game plan.

    Read an article on fox footy about Port Adelaide - there is a nice summary of thier shifting game plan over last last 4 years.

    Here it is:

    PORT’S SHIFTING GAME STYLE

    2016: Fast and direct

    2017: Strong forward half press

    2018: Slow and controlled

    2019: Fast, corridor and strong press


    I’m wondering for the more astute observers of the game, how would you describe our game plan in 2019?
    The dam wall has busted!

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    • hujsh
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2007
      • 11843

      #77
      Re: Our game plan / style / tactics are solid

      Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
      I see what danjul is saying. The ruck is an ongoing issue for us - there’s no disputing that, particularly against strong first rucks. The best we can hope for most weeks is to break even.

      I don’t like Schache going into the ruck just like I didnt like Boyd rucking as much as he did. Schache in particular is no ruck; if he needs to get into the game he should play as a high forward but rucking him doesn’t achieve much.

      Naughton can play anywhere with his leap but putting him in the ruck to get smashed around is a poor long term move. Simply must play FF or CHB.

      We don’t have the answer yet - can we recruit a first ruck and use English more forward or can we recruit a second ruck who plays multiple positions? The former seems a more likely option.

      At some stage this year we should give Sweet a taste though - despite how far off he may be - he needs to find out what it takes at AFl level and we need to find out how far off he actually is.
      Is that pretty much Trengove? Unless the idea isn’t to get a more Westoff type or a Jarred Brennan type with a huge leap?
      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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      • Mofra
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 14873

        #78
        Re: Our game plan / style / tactics are solid

        Originally posted by hujsh
        Is that pretty much Trengove? Unless the idea isn’t to get a more Westoff type or a Jarred Brennan type with a huge leap?
        Trengove spent most of pre-season as a ruck, not a defender.
        The plan was to share ruck duties with the club reportedly 'excited' by what English could show forward (repeating a pre-season fluff piece).

        Given the plans we abandoned during the JLT (a repeat from last year) I'm starting to think Bevo is a great match day and intra-season coach, but not as good pre-season.
        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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        • Danjul
          WOOF Member
          • Apr 2019
          • 1601

          #79
          Re: Our game plan / style / tactics are solid

          Originally posted by Mofra
          Trengove spent most of pre-season as a ruck, not a defender.
          The plan was to share ruck duties with the club reportedly 'excited' by what English could show forward (repeating a pre-season fluff piece).

          Given the plans we abandoned during the JLT (a repeat from last year) I'm starting to think Bevo is a great match day and intra-season coach, but not as good pre-season.
          Trengove couldn’t get a game at the start of the season.

          The match day plan was:

          backline - Cordy and some little blokes.
          ruck - English and some little blokes.
          forward - Schache and some little blokes.

          If anything goes wrong use Naughton.

          I don’t think this justifies use of the word GREAT. The plan hasn’t improved much.

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          • Topdog
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 7471

            #80
            Re: Our game plan / style / tactics are solid

            Originally posted by Danjul
            .

            I don’t think this justifies use of the word GREAT. The plan hasn’t improved much.
            And yet here we are with 3 wins from our last 4, beating 5th and 1st in the past 2 weeks.

            Our game plan must be doing pretty well

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            • comrade
              Hall of Fame
              • Jun 2008
              • 17933

              #81
              Re: Our game plan / style / tactics are solid

              Originally posted by Topdog
              And yet here we are with 3 wins from our last 4, beating 5th and 1st in the past 2 weeks.

              Our game plan must be doing pretty well
              We need more hit outs though
              Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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              • ledge
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2007
                • 14140

                #82
                Re: Our game plan / style / tactics are solid

                Originally posted by comrade
                We need more hit outs though
                I would like to see Sweet as our tap ruck and English as around the ground or up forward.
                Sweet did his ankle today though at the end of the Third quarter or I think he would have been pushing , two great games in a row.
                Bring back the biff

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                • jeemak
                  Bulldog Legend
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 21614

                  #83
                  Re: Our game plan / style / tactics are solid

                  When everyone plays with intensity and we cover defencively our game plan hides our clear personnel deficiencies.

                  The problem is it's hard to bring every week, though we seem to have hit a good patch over the last few weeks. However, when you have the under developed key position format that we have it's going to result in some inconsistent output game to game. Let's enjoy it when it's good, and maybe not be so bloody rabid when it isn't.
                  TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                  • SonofScray
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 4219

                    #84
                    Re: Our game plan / style / tactics are solid

                    Winning cures plenty of ailments, goals too.

                    There is enough talent in the 22 to produce those type of results, we are entirely capable on our day. Can we have enough days? I'm not as certain as I was in 15/16.

                    Selection seems to be settling down and offering continuity. I dare say Bevo has as close to his preferred side out there in the past 3 weeks as he has since the flag. Less bat shit crazy deployment of certain players. His mood has shifted too, it was really noticeable last week and carried in to tonight. Something has lit a fire underneath him. It's pleasing to see, because like our squad, he has been capable of much better.

                    I liked that Geelong defensive press couldn't be utilised to launch a counter punch. We were pretty concise with where the ball went when they were set up behind it. Put in into fairly safe spots, with numbers at the source. The pressure on the deck and aerial efforts of Wood, English, Crozier, Shache, Naughton and Bont were really important.

                    we made some good tactical adjustments last night and it pulled their pants down.
                    Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                    • Danjul
                      WOOF Member
                      • Apr 2019
                      • 1601

                      #85
                      Re: Our game plan / style / tactics are solid

                      Originally posted by Topdog
                      And yet here we are with 3 wins from our last 4, beating 5th and 1st in the past 2 weeks.

                      Our game plan must be doing pretty well
                      The last 2 weeks have weakened my argument, and I hope the next few beat it up further.

                      I did hear people at the game say they thought there have improvements in the match decisions.

                      Williams, Lipinski and Schache, were all brought into the team for that winning streak. As many here suggested.

                      They, and Trengove, were missing in earlier (unnecessary) losses.

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                      • Happy Days
                        Hall of Fame
                        • May 2008
                        • 10097

                        #86
                        Re: Our game plan / style / tactics are solid

                        Originally posted by Danjul
                        The last 2 weeks have weakened my argument, and I hope the next few beat it up further.

                        I did hear people at the game say they thought there have improvements in the match decisions.

                        Williams, Lipinski and Schache, were all brought into the team for that winning streak. As many here suggested.

                        They, and Trengove, were missing in earlier (unnecessary) losses.
                        The selections of Hayes, Gardner and even Lachie Young were egregious at the time and even more mind-boggling in hindsight. At least the players impacted have responded positively and improved since being demoted.
                        - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                        • azabob
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 15211

                          #87
                          Re: Our game plan / style / tactics are solid

                          Interesting commentary from Bevo how in the last quarter we played a 6 man forward line and it worked as it allowed Naughton and co time and space to lead into.

                          Will be interesting to see how it plays out over the next few weeks.
                          More of an In Bruges guy?

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                          • ledge
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 14140

                            #88
                            Re: Our game plan / style / tactics are solid

                            Who sees a lot of 2015 in us at the moment ? I do.
                            Bring back the biff

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                            • Danjul
                              WOOF Member
                              • Apr 2019
                              • 1601

                              #89
                              Re: Our game plan / style / tactics are solid

                              Originally posted by azabob
                              Interesting commentary from Bevo how in the last quarter we played a 6 man forward line and it worked as it allowed Naughton and co time and space to lead into.

                              Will be interesting to see how it plays out over the next few weeks.
                              A friend chose to sit where he gets a good overview of the game. Sent this text late in the match:

                              Bev made some moves. 6 forwards on the last quarter. What a surprise

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                              • Mofra
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 14873

                                #90
                                Re: Our game plan / style / tactics are solid

                                In the past few weeks it seems like we've caught up with tactics this year and ditched the super-fast 2016 gameplan for a slower ball movement gameplan and it's worked.

                                It's amazing just how different playing styles are from just two years ago. Maintaining possession is now more important than fast transition.
                                Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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