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  • azabob
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 15207

    #16
    Re: Player Contract Status

    Originally posted by The Adelaide Connection
    18 players out of contract at the end of next year seems bloody scary on paper.

    I wouldn't mind seeing a few more locked in, potentially at cheaper prices before we become the powerhouse of the competition and their stocks rise too much more (Schache, Bailey Smith, and Lloyd would have to be the highest priority).
    Im not too worried. It’s a lot, but not many must keeps.

    Only Crozier, Schache and Bailey Smith are must keeps.
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    • Mofra
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 14868

      #17
      Re: Player Contract Status

      Originally posted by azabob
      From the outside looking in it appears we will be conservative and have minimal list changes which is slightly disappointing.
      Young list that are performing ahead of expectations in many respects, I wouldn't want too much movement. As long as we keep who we want to keep.
      We'll lose nobody from our best 22 this season and add 1 or 2 into it for 2020, I'd say we're well positioned.
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      • azabob
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 15207

        #18
        Re: Player Contract Status

        Originally posted by Mofra
        Young list that are performing ahead of expectations in many respects, I wouldn't want too much movement. As long as we keep who we want to keep.
        We'll lose nobody from our best 22 this season and add 1 or 2 into it for 2020, I'd say we're well positioned.
        Good perspective Mofra.

        I will be looking with interest who else we re-sign.
        More of an In Bruges guy?

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66116

          #19
          Re: Player Contract Status

          Originally posted by Mofra
          Young list that are performing ahead of expectations in many respects, I wouldn't want too much movement. As long as we keep who we want to keep.
          We'll lose nobody from our best 22 this season and add 1 or 2 into it for 2020, I'd say we're well positioned.
          Bevo really wants to hold the group together. Smart move if you have the right personnel, which I think we do. A couple of tweaks here and there and we can play finals for a few years.
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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 44304

            #20
            Re: Player Contract Status

            Originally posted by azabob
            From the outside looking in it appears we will be conservative and have minimal list changes which is slightly disappointing.
            Standard fare however, once the confusing selection process was sorted out we have played vastly better football which of course results in fewer list changes

            Assuming we don't add Gardiner then potentially it's looking like Boyd, Picken, Morris, Roberts, R. Smith, Webb and Williams are unlikely to be playing next season and there might even be a question mark on Jong for next season and Dickson
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            • Bumper Bulldogs
              Coaching Staff
              • Apr 2008
              • 2926

              #21
              Re: Player Contract Status

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              Assuming we don't add Gardiner then potentially it's looking like Boyd, Picken, Morris, Roberts, R. Smith, Webb and Williams are unlikely to be playing next season and there might even be a question mark on Jong for next season and Dickson
              I wouldn't be surprised to see Boyd, Pickin, Morris, Roberts, R. Smith, Webb and Jong all moved on. I still think that we will add Gardiner and keep Dickson & Williams for another year. That would be IMO a huge turn over of personal with such a young list. With all of these guys only playing a hand full of games between them we will miss nothing from turning them over.
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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66116

                #22
                Re: Player Contract Status

                Originally posted by Bumper Bulldogs
                I wouldn't be surprised to see Boyd, Pickin, Morris, Roberts, R. Smith, Webb and Jong all moved on. I still think that we will add Gardiner and keep Dickson & Williams for another year. That would be IMO a huge turn over of personal with such a young list. With all of these guys only playing a hand full of games between them we will miss nothing from turning them over.
                According to Hun

                BAILEY WILLIAMS (Western Bulldogs)
                Talks will ramp up with his management next week but all signs are now pointing to him re-signing at the Kennel. Had been keen to assess whether he was part of the Dogs’ future after only nine games this year and none since round 17.
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                • comrade
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 17921

                  #23
                  Re: Player Contract Status

                  Happy to keep Williams. He’s shown enough at the highest level to prove he has a place.
                  Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34316

                    #24
                    Re: Player Contract Status

                    That's an interesting turn around with Williams. He's not in a strong bargaining position salary wise. Maybe a two year extension on something like the money he is on.

                    If he and Dale sign we need 6 list movements out to cover three draft selections and three trades in:

                    1. Boyd
                    2. Picken
                    3. Morris (ret)
                    4. Webb
                    5. Roberts
                    6. Dickson or a contracted player traded or retired early
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                    • Throughandthrough
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 3203

                      #25
                      Re: Player Contract Status

                      I believe that Bailey Williams wants to stay at the dogs.

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                      • jeemak
                        Bulldog Legend
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 21579

                        #26
                        Re: Player Contract Status

                        What do you mean he doesn't want to join the dumpster fire that is Adelaide, or not get paid playing at Port?
                        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                        • westbulldog
                          Senior Player
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 1765

                          #27
                          Re: Player Contract Status

                          Originally posted by comrade
                          Happy to keep Williams. He’s shown enough at the highest level to prove he has a place.
                          I agree, I think he has talent and should be retained.

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                          • Bulldog4life
                            WOOF Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 9607

                            #28
                            Re: Player Contract Status

                            I think Williams' best footy is still in front of him. Would be a shame to lose him.

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                            • KT31
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 5454

                              #29
                              Re: Player Contract Status

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              That's an interesting turn around with Williams. He's not in a strong bargaining position salary wise. Maybe a two year extension on something like the money he is on.

                              If he and Dale sign we need 6 list movements out to cover three draft selections and three trades in:

                              1. Boyd
                              2. Picken
                              3. Morris (ret)
                              4. Webb
                              5. Roberts
                              6. Dickson or a contracted player traded or retired early
                              I think Dicko may have shown enough for another season, I can see us moving on Jong.
                              It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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                              • choconmientay
                                WOOF Member
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 1312

                                #30
                                Re: Player Contract Status

                                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                                That's an interesting turn around with Williams. He's not in a strong bargaining position salary wise. Maybe a two year extension on something like the money he is on.

                                If he and Dale sign we need 6 list movements out to cover three draft selections and three trades in:

                                1. Boyd
                                2. Picken
                                3. Morris (ret)
                                4. Webb
                                5. Roberts
                                6. Dickson or a contracted player traded or retired early

                                Watching Williams at Footscray, he seemed to be happy and quite engaged. If a player is unhappy, the output even at VFL level wouldn't be any good but he is a class above.

                                If we need to roll-over more spots, do we need to look at the next tier of players and have them exploring opportunity somewhere else even if they have a contract for 2020?

                                These are players who are with us for few seasons already:

                                Billy Gowers: 2020 (Depth player)
                                Fergus Greene: 2020 (Where is he at now?)
                                Lin Jong: 2020 (Depth player)
                                Brad Lynch: 2020 (Where is he at now?)
                                Roarke Smith: 2019 (Rookie)

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