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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34316

    #61
    Re: Player Contract Status

    Originally posted by Smads57
    Is anyone else a bit surprised that we didn’t hear of any delistings this week after players had their exit interviews? I would have thought that there would have been at least one ie Webb. Are we holding onto everyone for now as insurance against what might arise as offers to our uncontracted players?
    Yes without over analysing things.

    So now I over analyse things. The uncontracted number is 4. Williams will stay or be traded. So he's not facing delisting. Roberts & Dickson are free agents so they will be re-signed or exercise their free agency status. Also by not delisting them, in the very, very, very unlikely event there's compensation for the player/s we could get a third rounder at best. But not if they're delisted first.

    The obvious ones to me are Webb, and rookies Roarke Smith & Gardner. But if Bevo and Power want to keep them both (by upgrading La Young). So if the club keeps the rookies (I'd cut both), then we are back at delisting only Webb now. If a player or two said they are open to trades (ie Jong, Lynch) maybe there might be a very outside chance Webb could stay? Or maybe Webb has a club offering him a lifeline? Or maybe we are just waiting for a few more to be added to the media release so it doesn't just look like the only bloke fired is Webb?

    But I agree with your post. I checked the club's website yesterday just in case 100 of us missed anything.
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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34316

      #62
      Re: Player Contract Status

      Having said that, it’s interesting that Bailey Williams isn’t signed. 3 weeks from the trade period and he’s uncontracted and the media have reported interest this year from Adelaide & St Kilda. Two clubs we hope to deal with re Bruce/Keath. No real point, but interesting that we haven’t signed him up if that’s what we want.
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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66106

        #63
        Re: Player Contract Status

        Well, Bailey Williams signed.

        Developing utility Bailey Williams has re-signed with the Western Bulldogs.

        The 21-year-old has committed to a two-year contract extension, which will see him stay at VU Whitten Oval until at least the end of 2021.


        Williams averaged more than 15 disposals per game in his nine AFL matches this year, playing primarily as a defender.


        The South Australian product has played 41 AFL matches across four seasons, since joining the Bulldogs with pick 48 in the 2015 NAB AFL Draft.


        General Manager of List and Recruiting, Sam Power, said Williams had shown promise in his first four years at the Kennel.


        “We’ve seen plenty of growth in Bailey’s game over the past couple of years, and we believe he has a bright future as a Bulldog,” Power said.


        “Bailey is a versatile player who has a strong game sense and intercepts the ball well. He’s shown across his career that he can play multiple roles, including down back and through the midfield.


        “He displayed some impressive signs in his AFL opportunities this season and was dominant when playing for Footscray at VFL level.


        “Having now had four years in the AFL system, Bailey will be determined to cement his position in the senior team and help drive us forward in 2020.”


        Williams becomes the 16th player to re-sign with the Western Bulldogs in 2019.
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        • Axe Man
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2008
          • 11016

          #64
          Re: Player Contract Status

          I'm happy to keep Bailey but I have NFI how we are going to make the list room for the 253 players we have been linked to.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66106

            #65
            Re: Player Contract Status

            Originally posted by Axe Man
            I'm happy to keep Bailey but I have NFI how we are going to make the list room for the 253 players we have been linked to.
            I think we will make very little change to the list.

            We are compelled to draft 3 and we will most likely pick up 2 with trades. (just my thoughts)
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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34316

              #66
              Re: Player Contract Status

              Originally posted by Axe Man
              I'm happy to keep Bailey but I have NFI how we are going to make the list room for the 253 players we have been linked to.
              I'm prepared to call 5 - Boyd, Picken, Morris, Roberts & Webb
              I think we may need 7 though (4 trades &/or free agents) - So that leaves main 3 possibles: Dickson (uncontracted), Jong &/or Lynch (traded). Jong & Lynch might want to actually play afl footy, so maybe something moves here.

              If we have Bruce, Naughton, Schache, Dale, Lloyd and say we bring in a small pressure forward. Plus Gowers, Greene and Cavarra. With the signing of the likes of Porter done already, Dickson might be up against it.

              It's really tough now. I would've held Porter back, but good for him.
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              • Cyberdoggie
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 2859

                #67
                Re: Player Contract Status

                Perhaps they waited this long on Williams because they now realized they couldn't get the targets they were after.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66106

                  #68
                  Re: Player Contract Status

                  Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                  I'm prepared to call 5 - Boyd, Picken, Morris, Roberts & Webb
                  I think we may need 7 though (4 trades &/or free agents) - So that leaves main 3 possibles: Dickson (uncontracted), Jong &/or Lynch (traded). Jong & Lynch might want to actually play afl footy, so maybe something moves here.

                  If we have Bruce, Naughton, Schache, Dale, Lloyd and say we bring in a small pressure forward. Plus Gowers, Greene and Cavarra. With the signing of the likes of Porter done already, Dickson might be up against it.

                  It's really tough now. I would've held Porter back, but good for him.
                  Still scratching my head why we signed Porter. Why do you think 7? Do we need 7 new faces.
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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34316

                    #69
                    Re: Player Contract Status

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Still scratching my head why we signed Porter. Why do you think 7? Do we need 7 new faces.
                    I can't recall whether it was Bevo or a statement from the club indicating we are looking to be active with a focus on KPDs and ruck. We've been linked to Keath & Howard as a KPD, and Zak Smith as a cheap ruck option and with Josh Bruce as a KPF.

                    So that's three new faces and I'd like a small pressure forward. I'd take in two live draft picks and upgrade La Young.

                    In the passed couple of years:

                    We haven't replaced Boyd, Redders & Cloke (Boyd this year)
                    We haven't replaced Roughed & Campbell
                    We haven't replaced Adams, Morris, Collins & Roberts (two this year)

                    I think the club appears on the right track. One KPD, one KPF, one cheap ruck and keep an eye out for gettable talent up to and including a small pressure forward. Plus the three draft selections (inc. upgrades). So a turnover of 7 players seems about right to me, and get the balance and depth better in the big man areas.
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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66106

                      #70
                      Re: Player Contract Status

                      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                      I can't recall whether it was Bevo or a statement from the club indicating we are looking to be active with a focus on KPDs and ruck. We've been linked to Keath & Howard as a KPD, and Zak Smith as a cheap ruck option and with Josh Bruce as a KPF.

                      So that's three new faces and I'd like a small pressure forward. I'd take in two live draft picks and upgrade La Young.

                      In the passed couple of years:

                      We haven't replaced Boyd, Redders & Cloke (Boyd this year)
                      We haven't replaced Roughed & Campbell
                      We haven't replaced Adams, Morris, Collins & Roberts (two this year)

                      I think the club appears on the right track. One KPD, one KPF, one cheap ruck and keep an eye out for gettable talent up to and including a small pressure forward. Plus the three draft selections (inc. upgrades). So a turnover of 7 players seems about right to me, and get the balance and depth better in the big man areas.
                      We can use the rookie draft for some of those. if La Young upgraded I would also look at delisting Roarke - that is two spots for backup ruck, and maybe a small forward.

                      I wonder if there are any players wanting to leave?
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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34316

                        #71
                        Re: Player Contract Status

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        We can use the rookie draft for some of those. if La Young upgraded I would also look at delisting Roarke - that is two spots for backup ruck, and maybe a small forward.

                        I wonder if there are any players wanting to leave?
                        That’s a good question. No media outlet has hinted at anything.

                        We are moving to a ‘window’. Hoping in three year time kpps make it is not my idea of getting to and staying in the window longer. We have heaps of picks and salary cap right now, with heaps of kids to develop also next year. 7 isn’t an excessive number if it’s done right. I have no problem parting with Roarke & Gardner.
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                        • Axe Man
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 11016

                          #72
                          Re: Player Contract Status

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          I wonder if there are any players wanting to leave?
                          Nobody wants to leave, nobody wants to join. We are like some kind of weird cult.

                          All hail supreme leader Bevo.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66106

                            #73
                            Re: Player Contract Status

                            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                            That’s a good question. No media outlet has hinted at anything.

                            We are moving to a ‘window’. Hoping in three year time kpps make it is not my idea of getting to and staying in the window longer. We have heaps of picks and salary cap right now, with heaps of kids to develop also next year. 7 isn’t an excessive number if it’s done right. I have no problem parting with Roarke & Gardner.
                            Hold on, what is the status of Gardner? Is he taking up a spot?
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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34316

                              #74
                              Re: Player Contract Status

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              Hold on, what is the status of Gardner? Is he taking up a spot?
                              He's now uncontracted, but if we want to retain him, yes. Say Roarke goes &/or Young is elevated we can put him in one of those vacancies. I see no reason to keep him especially with the types of players we are hoping to bring in. I'd rather a rookie draft selection or SSP option.
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                              • Doc26
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 3087

                                #75
                                Re: Player Contract Status

                                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                                He's now uncontracted, but if we want to retain him, yes. Say Roarke goes &/or Young is elevated we can put him in one of those vacancies. I see no reason to keep him especially with the types of players we are hoping to bring in. I'd rather a rookie draft selection or SSP option.
                                Hey BT, do you know that this is actually the term of the contract that Gardner negotiated with the Club?
                                The mid-season draft as far as I’m aware permitted a short term contract option to 31Oct this year, or the option to 31Oct2020, with the option to be re-signed based on existing rookie rules.

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