Always Right Match Committee Vs Carlton Round 6 2020

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  • josie
    Coaching Staff
    • Oct 2012
    • 4515

    #31
    Re: Always Right Match Committee Vs Carlton Round 6 2020

    Thinking like for like players.....

    Out: Vander (waiting for opportunity to say “Vander and Young” - not arisen yet though), Smith and Crozier

    In: Hayes, Porter (reckon Bevo might let him debut), Butler or La Young

    Would love Weightman or Greene to have a go but Westy and Dale doing too well

    If Jong does not recover then Butler and La Young
    Josie :)

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    • ratsmac
      Coaching Staff
      • May 2009
      • 3975

      #32
      Re: Always Right Match Committee Vs Carlton Round 6 2020

      Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
      We never challenge and it is the outcome I expected. The only player of ours that could get away with it wears number 4.

      There is a profile element in every MRO decision.

      He did sling and the North player had a cut above the eye from hitting his head on the ground.

      I can't see where we really have anything to challenge.
      Really? Burgoyne exhibit A

      Exibit B would have to be the fact that the north player has both hands free and chose to hang onto the ball instead of protecting his own head.

      That's our case but I doubt we challenge (we never do) if we do we won't be successful because we are the Western Bulldogs.
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      • azabob
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 15326

        #33
        Re: Always Right Match Committee Vs Carlton Round 6 2020

        Is the Burgoyne case relevant since they changed the rules?

        Not exactly sure what rules have been changed.
        More of an In Bruges guy?

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        • Remi Moses
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 14785

          #34
          Re: Always Right Match Committee Vs Carlton Round 6 2020

          I think what’s classified as a sling and what isn’t needs to be clarified
          There’s to many grey areas
          He was tackled while hatching the ball and didn’t have his arms pinned
          All in one motion
          Surely two motions are a sling

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          • Bulldog Joe
            Premiership Moderator
            • Jul 2009
            • 5577

            #35
            Re: Always Right Match Committee Vs Carlton Round 6 2020

            Originally posted by ratsmac
            Really? Burgoyne exhibit A

            Exibit B would have to be the fact that the north player has both hands free and chose to hang onto the ball instead of protecting his own head.

            That's our case but I doubt we challenge (we never do) if we do we won't be successful because we are the Western Bulldogs.
            Burgoyne case is of no precedent value, because the AFL have already stated it was wrong and tightened the rules.

            Burgoyne also benefited from the Profile player discount.

            We also need to acknowledge that the onus is on the tackler and the North player did hit his head on the ground.
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            • Remi Moses
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 14785

              #36
              Re: Always Right Match Committee Vs Carlton Round 6 2020

              So what happens when a player tackled pops a shoulder when tackled into
              The ground ? There’s way to many grey areas here .

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              • Remi Moses
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 14785

                #37
                Re: Always Right Match Committee Vs Carlton Round 6 2020

                It’s a tackle contact sport
                This is going to happen

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                • Mantis
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 15463

                  #38
                  Re: Always Right Match Committee Vs Carlton Round 6 2020

                  Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                  Burgoyne case is of no precedent value, because the AFL have already stated it was wrong and tightened the rules.

                  Burgoyne also benefited from the Profile player discount.

                  We also need to acknowledge that the onus is on the tackler and the North player did hit his head on the ground.
                  The onus needs to be on the player being tackled to protect himself as well.

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                  • Remi Moses
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 14785

                    #39
                    Re: Always Right Match Committee Vs Carlton Round 6 2020

                    He wasn’t slung , I guess that’s the point
                    It was in the tackle while he had the ball .
                    Players will hold on and brace for the tackle as they know they get some leverage
                    So where does this leave any tackle that results in injury

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                    • josie
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 4515

                      #40
                      Re: Always Right Match Committee Vs Carlton Round 6 2020

                      Originally posted by josie
                      Thinking like for like players.....

                      Out: Vander (waiting for opportunity to say “Vander and Young” - not arisen yet though), Smith and Crozier

                      In: Hayes, Porter (reckon Bevo might let him debut), Butler or La Young

                      Would love Weightman or Greene to have a go but Westy and Dale doing too well

                      If Jong does not recover then Butler and La Young
                      Forgot Hunter - in straight away instead of Hayes.
                      Josie :)

                      Our day will come
                      And we'll have everything.
                      We'll share the joy
                      Just like '54 again.

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                      • Ozza
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 6402

                        #41
                        Re: Always Right Match Committee Vs Carlton Round 6 2020

                        I think we need to seriously consider Trengove this week. I know the defence has been functioning very well - but I think Carlton's very tall forward line should mean we consider having JT come in.

                        Hopefully the 8 day break enables a few of the sore or concussed players recover in time. But I'm sure we will also be considering the short break afterwards before the Essendon match.

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44690

                          #42
                          Re: Always Right Match Committee Vs Carlton Round 6 2020

                          Originally posted by Ozza
                          I think we need to seriously consider Trengove this week. I know the defence has been functioning very well - but I think Carlton's very tall forward line should mean we consider having JT come in.

                          Hopefully the 8 day break enables a few of the sore or concussed players recover in time. But I'm sure we will also be considering the short break afterwards before the Essendon match.
                          I'm as concerned about the likes of Martin and Betts in their forward line
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                          • westbulldog
                            Senior Player
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 1826

                            #43
                            Re: Always Right Match Committee Vs Carlton Round 6 2020

                            Crozier's 1 week ban must be challenged, nothing in it. A long time ago some wanker cost Chris Grant a Brownlow, a relative of that wanker is obviously still around the AFL ranks.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66785

                              #44
                              Re: Always Right Match Committee Vs Carlton Round 6 2020

                              Originally posted by Ozza
                              I think we need to seriously consider Trengove this week. I know the defence has been functioning very well - but I think Carlton's very tall forward line should mean we consider having JT come in.

                              Hopefully the 8 day break enables a few of the sore or concussed players recover in time. But I'm sure we will also be considering the short break afterwards before the Essendon match.
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                              • Bulldog Revolution
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 3926

                                #45
                                Re: Always Right Match Committee Vs Carlton Round 6 2020

                                Is Trengrove a possible in to play on Levi Casboult?

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