Can someone (please) explain to me the reason we would trade for Stef Martin (or another ruck only player).

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  • comrade
    Hall of Fame
    • Jun 2008
    • 18027

    #46
    Re: Can someone (please) explain to me the reason we would trade for Stef Martin (or another ruck only player).

    Originally posted by bornadog
    Interesting reading back on this thread. Was the question asked by the OP answered? Was Martin the right person considering all his injuries ( including historical)?
    We played Martin at every opportunity and our forward line never looked better. Martin might not have been the right option specifically, but it has proven that a big bodied ruck that can do 70-8-% in the ruck can work for us.
    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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    • Ghost Dog
      WOOF Member
      • May 2010
      • 9404

      #47
      Re: Can someone (please) explain to me the reason we would trade for Stef Martin (or another ruck only player).

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      We could have and should used that option. Suggest the Bevo Doghouse was in full swing
      Is the Bevo Doghouse when you do something Bevo doesn't like and end up in the Magoos for your career?
      JT was a confusing one. Why get him and not play him? He wasn't that bad.
      You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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      • Mofra
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 14945

        #48
        Re: Can someone (please) explain to me the reason we would trade for Stef Martin (or another ruck only player).

        Originally posted by bornadog
        Interesting reading back on this thread. Was the question asked by the OP answered? Was Martin the right person considering all his injuries ( including historical)?
        A cheap player to advance English and Sweet without harming the soft cap?
        Off field it's a huge success, on field it's so-so. If he gets back for finals then it will be amazing.
        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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        • jeemak
          Bulldog Legend
          • Oct 2010
          • 21817

          #49
          Re: Can someone (please) explain to me the reason we would trade for Stef Martin (or another ruck only player).

          Originally posted by Ghost Dog
          Is the Bevo Doghouse when you do something Bevo doesn't like and end up in the Magoos for your career?
          JT was a confusing one. Why get him and not play him? He wasn't that bad.
          It's not like we never played him. There was a line put through his name last year though, for whatever reason.
          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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          • DOG GOD
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jul 2007
            • 6544

            #50
            Re: Can someone (please) explain to me the reason we would trade for Stef Martin (or another ruck only player).

            Originally posted by Mofra
            A cheap player to advance English and Sweet without harming the soft cap?
            Off field it's a huge success, on field it's so-so. If he gets back for finals then it will be amazing.
            We certainly need him for finals…as much as dunks and Treloar are an important part, Martin is THE part that structures us beautifully, as seen in the first part of the year.
            I will never see #16 the same!!

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            • 1eyedog
              Hall of Fame
              • Mar 2008
              • 13235

              #51
              Re: Can someone (please) explain to me the reason we would trade for Stef Martin (or another ruck only player).

              The gamble was worth it because it has shown how valuable a mature, experienced ruck is to our structure. If we can eek out anything from him moving forward it will still be worth it he makes us a different team.

              I'm amazed just how well we've done this year without a ruckman, Dunkley and Treloar but we are getting tired in the middle.
              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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              • Bumper Bulldogs
                Coaching Staff
                • Apr 2008
                • 2966

                #52
                Re: Can someone (please) explain to me the reason we would trade for Stef Martin (or another ruck only player).

                So we all now agree that the MC have the right balance when Martin is playing.

                Turn to 2022 and do we go against with Martin or go out and chase another mature age Ruckman like a Goldstein
                BB.

                Looking forward - Naughton, Darcy and JUH. It will be the envy of everyone.

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                • Hotdog60
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 5904

                  #53
                  Re: Can someone (please) explain to me the reason we would trade for Stef Martin (or another ruck only player).

                  Originally posted by Bumper Bulldogs
                  So we all now agree that the MC have the right balance when Martin is playing.

                  Turn to 2022 and do we go against with Martin or go out and chase another mature age Ruckman like a Goldstein
                  Don't get Happy Days started again. He'll remove the R.I.P from he's signature.
                  Don't piss off old people
                  The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                  • comrade
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 18027

                    #54
                    Re: Can someone (please) explain to me the reason we would trade for Stef Martin (or another ruck only player).

                    Originally posted by Hotdog60
                    Don't get Happy Days started again. He'll remove the R.I.P from he's signature.
                    I'm on the Ben McEvoy for 2 years train now.

                    Clarko on the way out, Hawks years away from contending. I think we can sell him on a flag shot and get him in for a few years.
                    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                    • Mofra
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 14945

                      #55
                      Re: Can someone (please) explain to me the reason we would trade for Stef Martin (or another ruck only player).

                      I'd prefer a longer term solution. Ladhams, Max Lynch.
                      Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                      • Grantysghost
                        Bouncing Strong
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 18959

                        #56
                        Re: Can someone (please) explain to me the reason we would trade for Stef Martin (or another ruck only player).

                        Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                        Is the Bevo Doghouse when you do something Bevo doesn't like and end up in the Magoos for your career?
                        JT was a confusing one. Why get him and not play him? He wasn't that bad.
                        Off thread but JT related he's going to be the Barooga senior coach next season.

                        On thread I like the McEvoy idea, Goldstein would be better.
                        BT COME BACK!​

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                        • comrade
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 18027

                          #57
                          Re: Can someone (please) explain to me the reason we would trade for Stef Martin (or another ruck only player).

                          Originally posted by Grantysghost
                          Off thread but JT related he's going to be the Barooga senior coach next season.

                          On thread I like the McEvoy idea, Goldstein would be better.
                          I think McEvoy is more gettable which is strange given he is captain. They have Ceglar and Reeves as options moving forward, plus all the Clarko stuff.

                          North have basically no one else to take on the number 1 role unless they want to give BTC the gig and well...yeah.
                          Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66688

                            #58
                            Re: Can someone (please) explain to me the reason we would trade for Stef Martin (or another ruck only player).

                            Originally posted by Mofra
                            I'd prefer a longer term solution. Ladhams, Max Lynch.
                            THIS ^^

                            We need a long term solution. Timmy is a great second ruck.

                            I like Ladhams of the two above.
                            FFC: Established 1883

                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • Happy Days
                              Hall of Fame
                              • May 2008
                              • 10139

                              #59
                              Re: Can someone (please) explain to me the reason we would trade for Stef Martin (or another ruck only player).

                              Originally posted by comrade
                              I think McEvoy is more gettable which is strange given he is captain. They have Ceglar and Reeves as options moving forward, plus all the Clarko stuff.

                              North have basically no one else to take on the number 1 role unless they want to give BTC the gig and well...yeah.
                              I know there's no chance given who his dad is, but I really like Reeves. He's absolutely huge and has that thing where he can dominate a pack marking contest that Dean Cox had (and Timmy has too).
                              - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                              • Twodogs
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 27654

                                #60
                                Re: Can someone (please) explain to me the reason we would trade for Stef Martin (or another ruck only player).

                                Originally posted by Happy Days
                                I know there's no chance given who his dad is, but I really like Reeves. He's absolutely huge and has that thing where he can dominate a pack marking contest that Dean Cox had (and Timmy has too).
                                Who is his dad?
                                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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