Jamarra - How excited are YOU???

[Grantysghost]

Re: Jamarra - How excited are YOU???

The Swans put their best defender on him, so there's a vote of confidence.

It was underwhelming but about what I'd expected. Shame he couldn't snag that goal in the goal square.

Enough to be excited about, some good positioning, nice hand and foot skills. Big future.

[GVGjr]

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When have you ever seen a kid come in and run a seasoned player all over the place? Rampe has had probably 10 pre-seasons, is a high quality AFL player who uses his body as well as any defender in the competition... You're dreaming if a kid who has been in the system for 5min is going to out run a veteran... and given the reports from our posters regarding his performances for Footscray it was pretty clear that his fitness isn't where it needs to be just yet.

As far as worst ever debut.. yeah, nah. Jono Brown didn't touch the ball in his debut, Nick Riewoldt had 3 touches and Luke Darcy looked like he learnt to run the day before he strode across the luscious Waverley turf. Sure he didn't set the world on fire, but he did about as well as his more experienced team-mates, but maybe that says more about them than him.

The experienced players also know how to be efficient with their running patterns which helps minimise the distance they cover.

We were all hoping that JUH would be on the receiving end of a pinpoint kicks so that he could grab a couple of marks snare a couple of goals but his team mates really didn't help him.
The biggest lesson he may have learned is that he know knows how much harder he needs to work.

We just need to be patient.

[comrade]

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Some of the marks were so close to sticking, in 20 games or so he'll be clunking them and it'll be pretty exciting.

Like a lot of things in life, the first time is usually pretty lacklustre. Best to get it out of the way and improve on it the next time

[MrMahatma]

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I guess the question is, are we better putting 6 games into JUH or Hannan before finals? I wouldn’t be doing too much “developing” for future years - we need to be trying to win this one - but is it out of the question that he could be kicking a few in a final? I’d back him to before Hannan.

[The Adelaide Connection]

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His numbers pretty much are on par with a lot of KPFs on debut (Buddy had 9 touches no goals in his first game, Riewoldt 3 disposals and no goals, Carey 7 touches, etc).

He's very undeveloped but you don't draft a 195cm kid for his first year, you draft him for his output when developed.

A lot of these are from an era where players were left on the pine longer, but here are a few other blokes that had underwhelming starts:

Andrew McLeod v Melbourne at Football Park, round six, 1995
Stats overview: One kick, three handballs, two tackles

Jonathan Brown v Adelaide at the Gabba, round five, 2000
Stats overview: Zero kicks, zero handballs, one tackle

Kade Simpson v Geelong at Docklands, round 11, 2003
Stats overview: Zero disposals, two tackles, one clanger

Jobe Watson v Geelong at Docklands Stadium (now Marvel Stadium) round 13, 2003
Stats overview: Two handballs, zero kicks, two tackles

Jack Martin v Richmond at Metricon Stadium, round one, 2014
Stats overview: Zero kicks, three handballs, zero marks

Jeremy Cameron v Sydney at ANZ Stadium, round one, 2012
Stats overview: Eight disposals, five marks, no goals

Sam Mitchell v Richmond at the MCG, round five, 2002
Stats overview: Four disposals, four tackles

Allen Jakovich v West Coast at Subiaco, round one, 1991
Stats overview: Five kicks, two marks, six disposals, no goals

Brent Harvey v Richmond at the MCG, round 22, 1996
Stats overview: One handball

Warren Tredrea v Essendon at Football Park, round two, 1997
Stats overview: Two kicks, two handballs, one tackle, no goals

Nick Riewoldt v Adelaide at Docklands Stadium (now Marvel Stadium), round 15, 2001
Stats overview: Three disposals, one mark, no goals

Jude Bolton v Carlton at Princes Park (now IKON Park), round 12, 1999
Stats overview: Six disposals, three tackles

Luke Darcy v St Kilda at Waverley Park, round 21, 1994
Stats overview: Two handballs, one tackle, zero kicks, zero hitouts

https://www.afl.com.au/news/68158/great-debuts-and-false-starts-of-the-afl-era

[Bornadog]

Re: Jamarra - How excited are YOU???

Marra meets his idol.

He is still a young boy and will fill out and become a star.

[Grantysghost]

Re: Jamarra - How excited are YOU???

Marra meets his idol.

He is still a young boy and will fill out and become a star.

Must've been a thrill for him. I feel he's going to have a really tough time living up to all the hype that's been generated around him. Not something he's done we need to remember. Just a kid living the dream.

[Danjul]

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A lot of these are from an era where players were left on the pine longer, but here are a few other blokes that had underwhelming starts:

Andrew McLeod v Melbourne at Football Park, round six, 1995
Stats overview: One kick, three handballs, two tackles

Jonathan Brown v Adelaide at the Gabba, round five, 2000
Stats overview: Zero kicks, zero handballs, one tackle

Kade Simpson v Geelong at Docklands, round 11, 2003
Stats overview: Zero disposals, two tackles, one clanger

Jobe Watson v Geelong at Docklands Stadium (now Marvel Stadium) round 13, 2003
Stats overview: Two handballs, zero kicks, two tackles

Jack Martin v Richmond at Metricon Stadium, round one, 2014
Stats overview: Zero kicks, three handballs, zero marks

Jeremy Cameron v Sydney at ANZ Stadium, round one, 2012
Stats overview: Eight disposals, five marks, no goals

Sam Mitchell v Richmond at the MCG, round five, 2002
Stats overview: Four disposals, four tackles

Allen Jakovich v West Coast at Subiaco, round one, 1991
Stats overview: Five kicks, two marks, six disposals, no goals

Brent Harvey v Richmond at the MCG, round 22, 1996
Stats overview: One handball

Warren Tredrea v Essendon at Football Park, round two, 1997
Stats overview: Two kicks, two handballs, one tackle, no goals

Nick Riewoldt v Adelaide at Docklands Stadium (now Marvel Stadium), round 15, 2001
Stats overview: Three disposals, one mark, no goals

Jude Bolton v Carlton at Princes Park (now IKON Park), round 12, 1999
Stats overview: Six disposals, three tackles

Luke Darcy v St Kilda at Waverley Park, round 21, 1994
Stats overview: Two handballs, one tackle, zero kicks, zero hitouts

https://www.afl.com.au/news/68158/gr...of-the-afl-era

Stunning when you consider the criticism Sweet gets. This list makes him look so much better.

[divvydan]

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Iso vision of his debut for anyone interested. Doesn't show every moment, from memory that bad chest mark drop is missing.

https://www.afl.com.au/video/647022/baptism-of-fire-exclusive-iso-vision-of-ugle-hagan-s-debut?videoId=647022

[Mantis]

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Stunning when you consider the criticism Sweet gets. This list makes him look so much better.

Sweet is 23.. Darcy was 19 when he debuted.

[Happy Days]

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Stunning when you consider the criticism Sweet gets. This list makes him look so much better.

A totally unrelated debut nearly 20 years ago means Sweet shouldn't be criticised for getting rolled by twos ruckmen?

[Grantysghost]

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Iso vision of his debut for anyone interested. Doesn't show every moment, from memory that bad chest mark drop is missing.

https://www.afl.com.au/video/647022/...videoId=647022

How many players get the ISO cam treatment? There's certainly a fascination with him. Need to manage it wisely, could be a great marketing opportunity for the club, within the parameters of what's acceptable for the person of course.

[comrade]

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How many players get the ISO cam treatment? There's certainly a fascination with him. Need to manage it wisely, could be a great marketing opportunity for the club, within the parameters of what's acceptable for the person of course.

Good to see Libba getting around him when he had that trip/fumble moment.

[Happy Days]

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How many players get the ISO cam treatment? There's certainly a fascination with him. Need to manage it wisely, could be a great marketing opportunity for the club, within the parameters of what's acceptable for the person of course.

Even if it is a little weird was still a pretty cool thing to see.

[Dancin' Douggy]

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The way the ball was coming into the forward line, and the way the forward line was structured made it impossible for Jamarra to have any impact. It was so crowded there was literally nowhere to move, no time to do anything with a crumb before being tackled. No spread, no room to lead into, 5 or 6 players flying for every mark. I would actually like to see him be given some room to move out an a flank or wing. Hopefully we don't play such a numbskull forward game EVER AGAIN!