Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

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  • 1eyedog
    Hall of Fame
    • Mar 2008
    • 13222

    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

    Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
    I know it won't happen, but the best way to win matches is not to concede first possession to your opposition. With our expected ruck set up it won't matter who we keep forward, because they will mostly be spectators.

    I hope I'm wrong but Tim English is not competitive enough to be any threat to NicNat.
    It should be avoided at all costs. We need Naughton to be injury free for the rest of the year and putting him in the ruck against NN in the hope that he can nullify him enough to give us a chance of winning one game is too high risk as far as our season is concerned.

    I see what you're getting at and agree that if Martin doesn't play we're stuffed (we may be stuffed even if he does play), but I reckon Stevo has neglected the 'Martin being present detail', and he was actually on that plane.
    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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    • 1eyedog
      Hall of Fame
      • Mar 2008
      • 13222

      Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      Or could he be saying he could be available to play...for Footscray?
      If Stefan Martin plays VFL this week I'll do a Lou Richards to Ted Whitten bet that he won't and if I lose I'll come over to your house and do your lawn with nail clippers.
      But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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      • Bumper Bulldogs
        Coaching Staff
        • Apr 2008
        • 2955

        Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

        Originally posted by DOG GOD
        I think Bevo will go in knowing NN will win every tap, and if he thinks English is a better option fwd, then I reckon that’s where he will play. Don’t be surprised if we see the likes of Hannan etc up against NN. Yep, it would not surprise me one bit.
        I wouldn’t mind seeing Young have a crack at Nic Nat. He will burn him across the ground and could also go forward and stretch them.
        Last edited by Bumper Bulldogs; 22-06-2021, 09:29 PM.
        BB.

        Looking forward - Naughton, Darcy and JUH. It will be the envy of everyone.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66564

          Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

          Originally posted by KT31
          Ruckman Stefan Martin is also expected to be available to play this week, after being a late withdrawal on Friday night.

          “He was close to playing but didn’t quite tick all our boxes in the final fitness test,” Bell said.

          “Stef will return to training this week and if he gets through like I expect, he’ll return to availability.”


          Quite confusing that this was posted on the Bulldogs website a couple of hours ago, is there a loophole we can still fly a player up?
          Well no one can confirm whether he flew up...... maybe separately
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          • KT31
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jul 2008
            • 5454

            Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Well no one can confirm whether he flew up.
            That would have really tested his shoulder.

            Ba-Dum Tish : I’m here all week, try the veal.
            It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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            • boydogs
              WOOF Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 5842

              Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

              Schache is a 4th quarter specialist with his fitness coming to the fore

              Just need someone to insult his girlfriend or something to make him physical at the start
              If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

              Formerly gogriff

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              • Axe Man
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 11118

                Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

                Originally posted by boydogs
                Schache is a 4th quarter specialist with his fitness coming to the fore

                Just need someone to insult his girlfriend or something to make him physical at the start

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                • mjp
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 7342

                  Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

                  Originally posted by MrMahatma
                  Examples would help.
                  Cool.

                  Rd 21 2015 - 77 point loss.
                  Rd 18 2018 - 54 point loss.
                  Rd 11 2019 - 61 point loss.

                  It's harder to tank against Freo because they are generally terrible and 4x easy points...but if ever a player needs a rest they simply don't get on the plane. I think he figures the chances of winning are diminished so why not save them for another day?

                  I've commented on this before. Team selection can be hard to follow but team selection in Perth can be REALLY hard to follow!
                  What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                  • Nuggety Back Pocket
                    WOOF Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 2064

                    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

                    Originally posted by Bumper Bulldogs
                    I wouldn’t mind seeing Young have a crack at Nic Nat. He will burn him across the ground and could also ho forward and stretch them.
                    Young and English appeals as the best option but cannot see it happening.

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                    • MrMahatma
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 3967

                      Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

                      Originally posted by mjp
                      Cool.

                      Rd 21 2015 - 77 point loss.
                      Rd 18 2018 - 54 point loss.
                      Rd 11 2019 - 61 point loss.

                      It's harder to tank against Freo because they are generally terrible and 4x easy points...but if ever a player needs a rest they simply don't get on the plane. I think he figures the chances of winning are diminished so why not save them for another day?

                      I've commented on this before. Team selection can be hard to follow but team selection in Perth can be REALLY hard to follow!
                      You genuinely think Bevo says “this will be tough… why bother, let’s save the best squad for next week”

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                      • DOG GOD
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 6518

                        Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

                        One thing that Schache has to offer is a good tank. Bevo will know we have no one in the ruck that will contend with Nic Nat. Not even English. So who is better fwd, English or Schache ?. I say English. So we have our 3 headed monster if Naughton gets up. Schache takes the ruck duties and runs Nic Nat off his feet. One thing NN doesn’t do well is defend, so Schache needs to exploit that. Give Josh a run around the ground. Let him utilise what he’s best at. Great tank, and quality field kicking skills. Even his marking, when not on 2 opponents just might come to the fore. We HAVE to make NN accountable away from the centre bounce. Schache might be the best chance of this.
                        I will never see #16 the same!!

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                        • Bulldog Joe
                          Premiership Moderator
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 5536

                          Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

                          Originally posted by MrMahatma
                          You genuinely think Bevo says “this will be tough… why bother, let’s save the best squad for next week”
                          We have seen it happen and not just in Perth.

                          Also happened round 18 2015 against Brisbane.

                          It also happened in Launceston in round 3 2015.
                          Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                          • Topdog
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 7471

                            Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

                            Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                            We have seen it happen and not just in Perth.

                            Also happened round 18 2015 against Brisbane.

                            It also happened in Launceston in round 3 2015.
                            Yep and Bevo and the Dogs certainly aren't on our own.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66564

                              Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

                              Originally posted by DOG GOD
                              One thing that Schache has to offer is a good tank. Bevo will know we have no one in the ruck that will contend with Nic Nat. Not even English. So who is better fwd, English or Schache ?. I say English. So we have our 3 headed monster if Naughton gets up. Schache takes the ruck duties and runs Nic Nat off his feet. One thing NN doesn’t do well is defend, so Schache needs to exploit that. Give Josh a run around the ground. Let him utilise what he’s best at. Great tank, and quality field kicking skills. Even his marking, when not on 2 opponents just might come to the fore. We HAVE to make NN accountable away from the centre bounce. Schache might be the best chance of this.
                              One of the best games Schache played was in early 2019 against the Hawks at the G. He kicked 3 or 4 goals and all when he was second ruck. I found him much better as a second ruck that day than as a FF. I have a feeling he did the same at Ballarat that year.
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                              • DOG GOD
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 6518

                                Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                One of the best games Schache played was in early 2019 against the Hawks at the G. He kicked 3 or 4 goals and all when he was second ruck. I found him much better as a second ruck that day than as a FF. I have a feeling he did the same at Ballarat that year.
                                Absolutely. Josh needs to be moving and needs to be involved. We need to use him as a link and he could be damaging with his kicking.
                                I will never see #16 the same!!

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