Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

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  • Rocco Jones
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jun 2008
    • 6928

    #76
    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

    I think Sweet is a bad match up for Nic Nat and thought he struggled in the VFL. Maybe having the tallest/mobile options is best. I don't know, I do not like either option.

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    • Rocco Jones
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jun 2008
      • 6928

      #77
      Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

      I am going with
      In: Richards, Schache, Garcia
      Out: Hannan, Crozier, Roarke

      Sub: Crozier

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      • comrade
        Hall of Fame
        • Jun 2008
        • 18004

        #78
        Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

        Originally posted by Rocco Jones
        I think Sweet is a bad match up for Nic Nat and thought he struggled in the VFL. Maybe having the tallest/mobile options is best. I don't know, I do not like either option.
        So you prefer Schache or Macrae going up against him?
        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34316

          #79
          Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

          Originally posted by comrade
          So you prefer Schache or Macrae going up against him?
          Lew Young is at least tall, has practice rucking, is mobile, has good hands and can defend. He’s been tried forward so could swap forward with Tim.

          Alas, we are going to get smashed in this area. Our mids are going to have to work overtime to not allow first tap to dictate clearances.
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • comrade
            Hall of Fame
            • Jun 2008
            • 18004

            #80
            Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
            Lew Young is at least tall, has practice rucking, is mobile, has good hands and can defend. He’s been tried forward so could swap forward with Tim.

            Alas, we are going to get smashed in this area. Our mids are going to have to work overtime to not allow first tap to dictate clearances.
            NicNat will just clear it himself.
            Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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            • Rocco Jones
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jun 2008
              • 6928

              #81
              Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

              Originally posted by comrade
              So you prefer Schache or Macrae going up against him?
              I do not want Macrae there and I am probably with you in wanting Sweet, more as it frees up English to play forward. I just can see why we would go a mobile option. The thing is, Schache was uncompetitive last time around. It is not like we have a solid option with the mobile choice.

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              • G-Mo77
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Apr 2007
                • 9880

                #82
                Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

                Lost already by selections.

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                • azabob
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 15290

                  #83
                  Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

                  Originally posted by G-Mo77
                  Lost already by selections.
                  Is Sweet on the plane?
                  More of an In Bruges guy?

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34316

                    #84
                    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

                    Originally posted by azabob
                    Is Sweet on the plane?
                    Apparently not. No Martin. No Wood. No JUH.
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • comrade
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 18004

                      #85
                      Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

                      Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                      I do not want Macrae there and I am probably with you in wanting Sweet, more as it frees up English to play forward. I just can see why we would go a mobile option. The thing is, Schache was uncompetitive last time around. It is not like we have a solid option with the mobile choice.
                      We're really no more mobile with Schache in the side if he can't get near it.
                      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34316

                        #86
                        Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

                        Originally posted by comrade
                        We're really no more mobile with Schache in the side if he can't get near it.
                        He shouldn’t ruck and he shouldn’t play KPF. I still like him as the (Adel) Tom Lynch circa 2015-2018 as the tall elite runner that is taller than opponents to rack up marks up the ground, who is a good field kick and when getting shots on goal is a very accurate kick. Basically this how he played a fair amount of the weekend against Geelong VFL, still kicked 6 too. Basically the role Hannan isn’t doing. Stay out of the way of Naughton & Bruce & Cody, and use his strengths to advantage. He can do everything that Hannan isn’t it, just taller.
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66573

                          #87
                          Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

                          Schache will only get a game if Naughton still sore.

                          I wonder what is happening with Martin?
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                          • Vred
                            Senior Player
                            • Nov 2018
                            • 1303

                            #88
                            Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

                            No Martin or Sweet? No Lew Young? SCHACHE?

                            BRB putting $1000 On WCE to win
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                            • soupman
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 5107

                              #89
                              Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

                              Honestly if Martin isn't fit do we even have anyone else who can genuinely contest with NicNat? Sweet is just ok but not sure he is equipped to do anything but be badly beaten in the middle. If thats the case is there any benefit in picking someone to get annihilated when we can just let English take the centre bounces and rotate a bunch of guys through there around the ground?

                              I think there is a good chance we don't even bother contested the boundary throw ins and just try and swarm him at ground level.

                              To be clear, I don't think any of this is a good plan, but I'm also not sure we have an option which isn't "get badly beaten in the ruck".
                              I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                              • Mofra
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 14915

                                #90
                                Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 15 Vs West Coast Eagles 2021

                                Originally posted by comrade
                                So you prefer Schache or Macrae going up against him?
                                Nicnat has a lower TOG than any comporable ruckman. The times a second ruckman will be opposed to NicNat will either be minimal or non-existent.

                                I would bring in either Martin, or Sweet if he's unavailable. WCE have played two rucks as long as I can remember so it's not just NicNat, (their) Bailey Williams would murder any no 2 option we have that isn't named Tim English and I want us to revert back to our 3-tall forwardline structure.

                                At this stage I'd have Hannan out Martin in, Crozier (out/inj/rested) and Wood in.
                                Then pray like hell Naughton is ok. Play him deep, Bruce to play Naughton's higher/CHFish role.
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