Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

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  • bulldogsthru&thru
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • May 2011
    • 7680

    #76
    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

    Well yeah. If Gardner is our 2nd best KPD then we’re in a lot of trouble. Sadly that’s indeed the case.

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    • Scraggers
      Premiership Moderator
      • Jun 2008
      • 3541

      #77
      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

      All season I’ve had my rose-coloured glasses on regarding JJ. He’s not going that bad, he’s getting the touches and making the pressure acts. Yesterday, not even the glasses could hide the atrocities. I’m not sure he hit a target all day. His pressure acts were not there. He didn’t stick a tackle.

      He doesn’t play again this year. Feign an injury or something, but his name is off the whiteboard. Mitch Wallis comes in for him. He’s hard at it and shows the intensity that JJ lacked.

      In saying all that, he stays next year. He has to find the 2015 JJ over the off-season. So very disappointed in the 2021 JJ

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      • Vred
        Senior Player
        • Nov 2018
        • 1295

        #78
        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

        Originally posted by Scraggers
        All season I’ve had my rose-coloured glasses on regarding JJ. He’s not going that bad, he’s getting the touches and making the pressure acts. Yesterday, not even the glasses could hide the atrocities. I’m not sure he hit a target all day. His pressure acts were not there. He didn’t stick a tackle.

        He doesn’t play again this year. Feign an injury or something, but his name is off the whiteboard. Mitch Wallis comes in for him. He’s hard at it and shows the intensity that JJ lacked.

        In saying all that, he stays next year. He has to find the 2015 JJ over the off-season. So very disappointed in the 2021 JJ
        Scott shows more then JJ up forward. Wallis should be in for Hannan.
        [I][B]"Its always good to win the Ashes test match'' - Libba, AFL Grand Final, 2016[/B][/I]

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        • Bullies
          Senior Player
          • Sep 2014
          • 1802

          #79
          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

          I want to see Gardner come in as he has to play now. The other teams have big forwards and he is our best close checking defender. I would also like to Schache play forward. I think he would have gained some confidence playing down back and taking marks. I'm not sold on Garcia at this stage. If he is in as a pressure forward then i think Scott or MacNeill should get the role. Just not sure what to think with our latest performances can only hope we have been doing the increased training loads. First few minutes will tell Friday as you can usually pick early when we are on.

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          • Bullies
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2014
            • 1802

            #80
            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

            Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
            Well yeah. If Gardner is our 2nd best KPD then we’re in a lot of trouble. Sadly that’s indeed the case.
            Gardner was in our top 3 players for the last 6 games in 2020 in the B & F. He also did well until getting injured against North. I think you will find he will be picked for his closing speed and close checking on the big boys. Bevo had him in against the Hawks. He wont get 20 p's but will do a job that he wont get credit for as everyone looks at the stats sheets.
            Last edited by Bullies; 15-08-2021, 02:04 PM.

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            • Vred
              Senior Player
              • Nov 2018
              • 1295

              #81
              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

              Out:
              Cordy (suspended)
              JJ
              Hannan
              Garcia
              Easton
              VDM
              Young (maybe)

              IN:
              Gardner - Straight swap for Cordy
              Scott - Shows way, way WAY more up forward then JJ does
              Wallis - Straight upgrade on Hannan
              Ed Richards - Have him play the wing, two way running is great, replaces Garcia who needs to see some more development time
              JUH - Straight replacement on VDM
              Sweet - An actual ruck

              If Martin can't get up, keep Young in as a floating Ruck/Defender, have Sweet / Young swap duties in the ruck, if Martin can get up, Sweet / Martin is the combo you play.

              This way we keep 3 big men up forward ALL game, 3 big men down back, and a ruck duo who might actually be able to feed our midfield somewhat decently.
              [I][B]"Its always good to win the Ashes test match'' - Libba, AFL Grand Final, 2016[/B][/I]

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              • The Bulldogs Bite
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 11090

                #82
                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                At this point it's mostly shuffling deck chairs, it is largely up to the players selected to find some pride in performance. Starts and ends with the whole midfield but we need more right across the ground.

                With that said, Sweet has to play. Do I rate him? Not particularly, no. But English is the worst ruck in the league and the fact we continue to play him as a number one ruck is negligent arrogance by our MC. Does anyone actually think we lose anything by playing English predominantly as a forward and Sweet as the ruck? Young as a ruck doesn't work either (and he's not a forward), so what are we actually giving up by taking English out of the #1 ruck spot a d playing Sweet?

                If Martin is fit then play him but he was bloody awful for Brisbane last year after coming back from a long layoff. It's a pipe dream he comes in and contributes.

                I don't think Marra is remotely ready for a finals series but of we play Naughton and English forward, there's more reason to play Marra as the third tall. If we're hellbent on keeping our structure as is, we might as well play Wallis over Marra.

                In: Sweet/Martin, Richards, Gardiner, Marra
                Out: Cordy, Garcia, JJ, Hannan
                W00F!

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                • Go_Dogs
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 10098

                  #83
                  Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                  Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                  Dixon, Marshall, Ladhams, Georgiades

                  We need three KPD. Hopefully Schache & Gardner back with Keath.
                  With how little run we’ve got, I hope Bevo goes Bevo and we are a bit shorter/quicker.
                  Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                  • bulldogsthru&thru
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • May 2011
                    • 7680

                    #84
                    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                    Originally posted by Bullies
                    Gardner was in our top 3 players for the last 6 games in 2020 in the B & F. He also did well until getting injured against North. I think you will find he will be picked for his closing speed and close checking on the big boys. Bevo had him until against Hawks. He wont get 20 p's but will do a job he wont get credit for as everyone looks at the stats sheets.
                    I’m not looking at the stat sheet. It’s short sighted to assume anyone critiquing Gardner is simply looking at the stats sheet. I’m not against Gardner. I don’t think he’s useless. He’s got good closing speed and discipline. He’s our 2nd best KPD. But THAT’S the problem. As a KPD you either need to be quite good at intercepting or one on one to be really useful. Unfortunately Ryan isn’t great at either. I think he’d make an excellent option as a 3rd KPD if we needed one against sides with big forwards.

                    None of this is really anything against Gardner. It’s against Cordy and our woeful KPD stocks.

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                    • The Bulldogs Bite
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 11090

                      #85
                      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                      Side note - imagine translating English's position as first ruck to a workplace scenario.

                      Work experience kid gets appointed as the lead sales manager, because he showed plenty of promise. You let go the bit of experience you had to support him. He under performs against your competitors year in and year out, but dabbles in marketing where he shows some creative flair. You like the idea of using him as part of the marketing team because he really contributes to improving your business in an area it lacked, but you keep him as your lead sales manager because you are convinced he'll come good. Meanwhile, new competition pops up and they out perform him almost immediately. You finally decide to hire support - he's a retired but knowledgeable lad and agrees to come in 1 day a week. Results improve until the old lad decides it's time for a 6 month caravan trip around the country and you're back to junior under performing as the lead sales manager.

                      Good times
                      W00F!

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                      • The Pie Man
                        Coaching Staff
                        • May 2008
                        • 3498

                        #86
                        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                        Been told there was match simulation for everyone left behind this weekend and Stef got through unscathed.

                        He has to play if ready
                        Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                        • Grantysghost
                          Bouncing Strong
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 18813

                          #87
                          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                          Originally posted by The Pie Man
                          Been told there was match simulation for everyone left behind this weekend and Stef got through unscathed.

                          He has to play if ready
                          All part of the master plan.
                          BT COME BACK!​

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                          • The Pie Man
                            Coaching Staff
                            • May 2008
                            • 3498

                            #88
                            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                            Originally posted by Grantysghost
                            All part of the master plan.
                            Yeah, let’s say that
                            Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                            • Rocco Jones
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 6923

                              #89
                              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                              I am not feeling as worried as some, but I want a few changes. This is what I want/would do, not think will happen.

                              In
                              Stef
                              Gardner
                              Marra
                              Roarke
                              Richards

                              Out
                              Garcia
                              JJ
                              Cordy
                              Wood
                              Hannan

                              Comment

                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 65805

                                #90
                                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                                Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                                I am not feeling as worried as some, but I want a few changes. This is what I want/would do, not think will happen.

                                In
                                Stef
                                Gardner
                                Marra
                                Roarke
                                Richards

                                Out
                                Garcia
                                JJ
                                Cordy
                                Wood
                                Hannan
                                That is another 5 changes.

                                I would say that JJ, Wood won't be dropped, and Hannan is on thin ice and may or may not be dropped.
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