Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

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  • Rocco Jones
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jun 2008
    • 6923

    #91
    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

    Originally posted by bornadog
    That is another 5 changes.

    I would say that JJ, Wood won't be dropped, and Hannan is on thin ice and may or may not be dropped.
    Yeah, I hear you. I really hope JJ and Woody can turn it around. Don't want to see them dropped. Get that just making changes won't help in isolation. The balance of the side just seems out of whack. Maybe that's more a playing crap thing though.

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 65805

      #92
      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

      Originally posted by Rocco Jones
      Yeah, I hear you. I really hope JJ and Woody can turn it around. Don't want to see them dropped. Get that just making changes won't help in isolation. The balance of the side just seems out of whack. Maybe that's more a playing crap thing though.
      If Stef and Gardner come in do you think Lew gets dropped?
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      • Rocco Jones
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jun 2008
        • 6923

        #93
        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

        Originally posted by bornadog
        If Stef and Gardner come in do you think Lew gets dropped?
        I would prefer we go with him as a 3rd tall rather than play Wood in the side but I don’t think Bevo will see it that way. Not really strong on it though. I really hope Woody can find a grove and add value. I just don’t see it at the moment.

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        • boydogs
          WOOF Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 5842

          #94
          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

          In: Martin, Gardner
          Out: English, Cordy
          If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

          Formerly gogriff

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          • Mantis
            Hall of Fame
            • Apr 2007
            • 15271

            #95
            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

            Originally posted by Rocco Jones
            I would prefer we go with him as a 3rd tall rather than play Wood in the side but I don’t think Bevo will see it that way. Not really strong on it though. I really hope Woody can find a grove and add value. I just don’t see it at the moment.
            How long has it been since Woody added value?... he's been able to play some good shut-down roles on small forwards, but is a liability with ball in hand, has lost his athletic prowess which means he is no longer an aerial threat and when we group in the same defence as Cordy it gives us 2 players who shit the bed with ball in hand.

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            • bulldogsthru&thru
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • May 2011
              • 7680

              #96
              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

              This game will tell us everything. We’ll either bounce back and prove we’re still a legit contender. Or we’ll roll over and capitulate to continue our recent form. Finals start early for us.

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              • comrade
                Hall of Fame
                • Jun 2008
                • 17878

                #97
                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                This game will tell us everything. We’ll either bounce back and prove we’re still a legit contender. Or we’ll roll over and capitulate to continue our recent form. Finals start early for us.
                Pretty much.
                Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                • Mantis
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 15271

                  #98
                  Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                  Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                  This game will tell us everything. We’ll either bounce back and prove we’re still a legit contender. Or we’ll roll over and capitulate to continue our recent form. Finals start early for us.
                  Whilst I get your point and understand the point your making as we are going to make it harder if we don't win this week, but I'm judging us on our performance in the finals... we've let ourselves down in our last 2 finals appearances and need to give a much better account of ourselves this time around.

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                  • Danjul
                    WOOF Member
                    • Apr 2019
                    • 1601

                    #99
                    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    If Stef and Gardner come in do you think Lew gets dropped?
                    Young had as many possessions as Garcia and Hannan combined.

                    He can step up if Martin or Gardner breaks down. He can be the third tall forward.

                    On what basis would he be dropped?

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 65805

                      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                      Originally posted by Danjul
                      Young had as many possessions as Garcia and Hannan combined.

                      He can step up if Martin or Gardner breaks down. He can be the third tall forward.

                      On what basis would he be dropped?
                      The reason I say that is we would be too top heavy with all those ins.
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                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • Rocco Jones
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 6923

                        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                        Originally posted by Mantis
                        How long has it been since Woody added value?... he's been able to play some good shut-down roles on small forwards, but is a liability with ball in hand, has lost his athletic prowess which means he is no longer an aerial threat and when we group in the same defence as Cordy it gives us 2 players who shit the bed with ball in hand.
                        Yeah I think we think pretty much the same thing with Woody and Zaine.

                        I really want to see value in Wood and sentimentally, hope he is there. I just don't see the value of him over another option.

                        Wood has sure hands under a high ball (can't really jump), a mature body and adds leadership. Thing is I'd rather play a tall or a small in his place. Truck in the medium role, Doc is big to the team defence. Play the 3 talls, Easton is no surer with ball in hand than them. Dale, Caleb and I even liked Richards down back. Woody isn't a tall but I think he is competing with them.

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                        • Mantis
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 15271

                          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                          Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                          Yeah I think we think pretty much the same thing with Woody and Zaine.

                          I really want to see value in Wood and sentimentally, hope he is there. I just don't see the value of him over another option.

                          Wood has sure hands under a high ball (can't really jump), a mature body and adds leadership. Thing is I'd rather play a tall or a small in his place. Truck in the medium role, Doc is big to the team defence. Play the 3 talls, Easton is no surer with ball in hand than them. Dale, Caleb and I even liked Richards down back. Woody isn't a tall but I think he is competing with them.
                          Wood doesn't have lots of footy IQ either.. he was a wonderful player as he was athletic and had a great ability to intercept, but he hasn't been able to do that for a long time and he doesn't have any other tricks.

                          Like you I liked the look of our defence with Richards down there who was doing a great job in that role until he was concussed against Melb.

                          We need more dare and run from behind and the defence on Saturday lack the ability to defend as well as little attacking flair and that isn't going to cut it.

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                          • Danjul
                            WOOF Member
                            • Apr 2019
                            • 1601

                            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            The reason I say that is we would be too top heavy with all those ins.
                            But the smalls are not delivering.
                            We are pushing games into them but not getting an acceptable return.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 65805

                              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                              Originally posted by Danjul
                              But the smalls are not delivering.
                              We are pushing games into them but not getting an acceptable return.
                              We have to balance the team and can't have Stef, Young, Gardner, Keath, Cordy, Naughton, English or even Schache in the same team.
                              FFC: Established 1883

                              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                              • comrade
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 17878

                                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                                Originally posted by Mantis
                                Wood doesn't have lots of footy IQ either.. he was a wonderful player as he was athletic and had a great ability to intercept, but he hasn't been able to do that for a long time and he doesn't have any other tricks.

                                Like you I liked the look of our defence with Richards down there who was doing a great job in that role until he was concussed against Melb.

                                We need more dare and run from behind and the defence on Saturday lack the ability to defend as well as little attacking flair and that isn't going to cut it.
                                I'd have Richards in ahead of Wood in a heart beat.

                                Our best, most dynamic back 6 is this, imo:

                                Richards Keath Duryea
                                Williams Gardner Dale

                                With one of Young or Schache on the bench as coverage.

                                Will never happen though. Our finals team will 100% feature both Wood and Cordy.
                                Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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