Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

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  • comrade
    Hall of Fame
    • Jun 2008
    • 17876

    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

    My side for this game would be something like this:

    Richards Keath Duryea
    Williams Gardner Dale
    Daniel Macrae Hunter
    Vandermeer JUH Garcia
    English Naughton Weightman
    Sweet Bont Libba
    Dunkley Treloar Schache Roarke

    Will 100% never happen but is structured up so much better than the rubbish we sent out last week.

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    Garcia could be replaced by any of McNeil, Hannan or JJ but I'm off JJ entirely.

    Schache could be replaced by Young.

    We have too many one way mids so the worst of the bunch (Baz) gets dropped.
    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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    • Rocco Jones
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jun 2008
      • 6923

      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

      Originally posted by comrade
      I'd have Richards in ahead of Wood in a heart beat.

      Our best, most dynamic back 6 is this, imo:

      Richards Keath Duryea
      Williams Gardner Dale

      With one of Young or Schache on the bench as coverage.

      Will never happen though. Our finals team will 100% feature both Wood and Cordy.
      I don't know if both Zaine and Wood get in actually. Keath and Gardy I think are actually Bevo's 1-2. Wood in the 4 spot? Look you're probably right but I think Zaine is droppable to Bevo.

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44050

        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

        Originally posted by Mantis
        Wood doesn't have lots of footy IQ either.. he was a wonderful player as he was athletic and had a great ability to intercept, but he hasn't been able to do that for a long time and he doesn't have any other tricks.

        Like you I liked the look of our defence with Richards down there who was doing a great job in that role until he was concussed against Melb.

        We need more dare and run from behind and the defence on Saturday lack the ability to defend as well as little attacking flair and that isn't going to cut it.
        Wood has been a limited player for a while now and while I get the sentimentality of him being our 2016 flag captain and player I think there are a few ahead of him for the position he can play now.
        Duryea for example can be a lock down defender but he uses the ball so much better.
        Williams could also play that role and is another who is typically a very good user of the footy and Dale is having a great season.
        Then we have Daniel and Richards to consider.

        If we need more dare and run from the back half as you have suggested then Wood doesn't provide a lot of that we we do have a number of players who seem to be more natural at moving the ball quickly.

        Having said all that, he won't be dropped.
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        • comrade
          Hall of Fame
          • Jun 2008
          • 17876

          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          Wood has been a limited player for a while now and while I get the sentimentality of him being our 2016 flag captain and player I think there are a few ahead of him for the position he can play now.
          Duryea for example can be a lock down defender but he uses the ball so much better.
          Williams could also play that role and is another who is typically a very good user of the footy and Dale is having a great season.
          Then we have Daniel and Richards to consider.

          If we need more dare and run from the back half as you have suggested then Wood doesn't provide a lot of that we we do have a number of players who seem to be more natural at moving the ball quickly.

          Having said all that, he won't be dropped.
          You can’t hang a bloke on one moment but that hack hick from the boundary line straight into the dangerous space was what you’d expect from a rookie, not an experienced leader. He’s not giving us enough defensively to make up for the odd howler and general unproductivity he’s providing
          Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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          • Scorlibo
            Coaching Staff
            • Oct 2007
            • 3073

            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

            B - Wood, Keath, Duryea
            HB - Dale, Gardner, Williams
            C - Daniel, Liberatore, Hunter
            HF - B. Smith, Bontempelli, Garcia
            F - Weightman, Naughton, English

            Foll - Sweet, Macrae, Dunkley
            I - Treloar, R. Smith, Scott, Richards

            In: Sweet, Gardner, R. Smith, Scott, Richards
            Out: Vandermeer, Cordy, Johannisen, Young, Hannan


            Key points:

            - For mine we simply have to try and address the centre square situation. Bring Sweet in, see what he can do with that mongrel attitude he's got going on. That enables us to swing Tim forward, where he looks most dangerous anyway.
            - Get Bontempelli out of the centre square, he's been well short on form in this area. We need some genuine threats forward to make opposition defenders accountable, and Bont we know can hit the scoreboard.
            - Bailey Smith for me is too good to be dropped but he's not been influential enough through the middle. Send him forward with the clear direction to use his pace with the ball, draw defenders and make space for others. We know he can do that.
            - Dunkley and Treloar to take on higher midfield minutes. Time to step up.
            - I'm really at a loss to reconcile what is going on with our small forwards, all of them are struggling to get a touch. Garcia is the one who I think can at least continue to bring effort and possibly have an out-of-the-box game if the stars align for him, so I have him staying in the side.
            - Can't believe I'm advocating bringing Gardner in without any match practise but that's how desperate we are down back.
            - Anthony Scott to play a negating forward role, Roarke to rotate onto the wings.
            - Vandermeer unlucky, wouldn't be surprised or alarmed to see him stay in the side given the pressure he can bring.
            'And the Western suburbs erupt!'

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 65805

              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

              In Stef, Gardner

              Out Young, Hannan,
              FFC: Established 1883

              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34316

                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                Port KPF: Dixon, Georgiades, Marshall, Ladham (+ ruck)

                Our KPD: Keath, Gardner/Cordy, Schache (+ ruck if needed) with Wood & Williams support


                In: Stef, Gardner, Schache, Jamarra

                Out: Young, Cordy, JJ, Hannan



                B: Duryea Gardner Schache
                HB: Williams Keath Dale
                C: Hunter Macrae Daniel
                HF: Treloar Bontempelli Garcia
                F: Weightman Naughton Jamarra
                R: Martin Dunkley Libba
                I: Wood VDM B. Smith English


                Bont could easily kick a bag. Give him some time off the bash and crash for a week before finals.
                Jamarra & Hannan output is similar. But Jamarra could do something insane too. So him.
                Bont, Naughton, Jamarra & Weightman would be as much X Factor as we’ve put in a forward line.
                We cover their big forwards with varied KPDs.
                Stef back. English #2 with licence to drop back if we need it. Realisticly he’s still going to have to do a lot of minutes in the ruck still. Schache a third ruck if it’s needed, or D50 ruck.
                B. Smith lucky. He’s on ball or not at all and clearly understands he needs to perform now. Right now. If Lipinski had showed anything on ball I’d have looked at that change. But that’s a moot point. Now or never Bailey.

                There’s way more than enough talent in all our predicted teams. If the work rate flows as much as the natural talent and executing skills to an acceptable standard, then let’s go and see what happens. A win is as good as Second, a loss Fifth. Fight like you want it, use it to slingshot form into the finals.
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • Axe Man
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 10956

                  Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                  Lycett was subbed out with some sort of knee injury on the weekend. It certainly wouldn't hurt our cause if he was to miss.

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34316

                    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                    Originally posted by Axe Man
                    Lycett was subbed out with some sort of knee injury on the weekend. It certainly wouldn't hurt our cause if he was to miss.
                    With no bye, now is the only time to rest some of their sore guys. I get they could possibly finish first by going all out with selections this week. If they rest em up, and worst case lose, they finish 4th. Who knows, first week could be in Adelaide anyway. I think I’d rest up any really sore guys. Lycett is important to them. Ladhams smashed Tim last time, so he just needs that kind of performance against minutes from Stef and Tim.

                    Hopefully they’re a very conservative medicos and fitness staff feeding into their MC.
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • comrade
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 17876

                      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                      Port KPF: Dixon, Georgiades, Marshall, Ladham (+ ruck)

                      Our KPD: Keath, Gardner/Cordy, Schache (+ ruck if needed) with Wood & Williams support


                      In: Stef, Gardner, Schache, Jamarra

                      Out: Young, Cordy, JJ, Hannan



                      B: Duryea Gardner Schache
                      HB: Williams Keath Dale
                      C: Hunter Macrae Daniel
                      HF: Treloar Bontempelli Garcia
                      F: Weightman Naughton Jamarra
                      R: Martin Dunkley Libba
                      I: Wood VDM B. Smith English


                      Bont could easily kick a bag. Give him some time off the bash and crash for a week before finals.
                      Jamarra & Hannan output is similar. But Jamarra could do something insane too. So him.
                      Bont, Naughton, Jamarra & Weightman would be as much X Factor as we’ve put in a forward line.
                      We cover their big forwards with varied KPDs.
                      Stef back. English #2 with licence to drop back if we need it. Realisticly he’s still going to have to do a lot of minutes in the ruck still. Schache a third ruck if it’s needed, or D50 ruck.
                      B. Smith lucky. He’s on ball or not at all and clearly understands he needs to perform now. Right now. If Lipinski had showed anything on ball I’d have looked at that change. But that’s a moot point. Now or never Bailey.

                      There’s way more than enough talent in all our predicted teams. If the work rate flows as much as the natural talent and executing skills to an acceptable standard, then let’s go and see what happens. A win is as good as Second, a loss Fifth. Fight like you want it, use it to slingshot form into the finals.
                      If we win and Melbourne wins, we play Geelong first week without Tom Stewart. If that’s not enough motivation to come out absolutely breathing fire this week, we were never winning shit anyway.

                      Make us believe again Dogs.
                      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34316

                        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                        Originally posted by comrade
                        If we win and Melbourne wins, we play Geelong first week without Tom Stewart. If that’s not enough motivation to come out absolutely breathing fire this week, we were never winning shit anyway.

                        Make us believe again Dogs.
                        It has to sting surely. All year the players have been fighting for the respect of the footy world and once they finally got it, in six days the footy world is thinking that they were maybe wrong about this group of players. That should sting and I have to believe the players now have a point to prove to themselves as much as the footy world. Make a big statement this week and impose some fear into future opponents. To the Tom Stewart-less Geelong, apart from the bad last minute, he was the difference when we played them last. Get them after a statement vs Port, we can be a finals wrecking ball. Have to make that statement vs Port first.
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • kruder
                          Coaching Staff
                          • May 2011
                          • 3749

                          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                          It sounds like Martin and Gardner are a lock.

                          One thing that has hurt us is no VFL and no bye prior to finals, we have a number of players coming back through injury late on that has left us vulnerable going into our biggest game of the year.

                          I think for that reason I would leave out VDM this week with JJ, and Garcia getting the nod with continuity on their side.

                          Wood V Richards is right on top of the agenda now it looks like we will be playing three tall defenders.

                          JUH V Hannan is another that comes to mind. Who is best to play the role on Aliir Ailir?

                          I think Bevo will go,


                          In Martin Gardner

                          Out Young VDM

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                          • dog town
                            Senior Player
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 1895

                            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                            Originally posted by kruder
                            It sounds like Martin and Gardner are a lock.

                            One thing that has hurt us is no VFL and no bye prior to finals, we have a number of players coming back through injury late on that has left us vulnerable going into our biggest game of the year.

                            I think for that reason I would leave out VDM this week with JJ, and Garcia getting the nod with continuity on their side.

                            Wood V Richards is right on top of the agenda now it looks like we will be playing three tall defenders.

                            JUH V Hannan is another that comes to mind. Who is best to play the role on Aliir Ailir?

                            I think Bevo will go,


                            In Martin Gardner

                            Out Young VDM
                            It has definitely hurt us having to carry several players who are underdone but Butters and Duursma have come good with only an additional game. Dunkley and Treloar really should be starting to find their stride now.

                            Martin is a big risk but we could supplement him with minutes from
                            English and Schache/Young. If Lycett misses then Sweet is an option instead of Martin given he has already done ok against Ladhams.

                            On Martin an underdone ruckmen should only compromise you in that specific role whereas several runners impacts everyone else playing those roles. Probably less likely to get exposed.

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                            • kruder
                              Coaching Staff
                              • May 2011
                              • 3749

                              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                              Can anyone see the sense of Cordy playing as defensive forward on Aliir Aliir and continue the role in the finals? I just think we might need someone to help out Naughty and English to create separation which is when they are at their most dangerous.

                              I have real concern that Hannan/Juh can perform this role effectively. My other concern would then be having to play Young/Schache in defence but I guess as a third tall it would take the pressure off to a degree and it would potentially allow English to stay forward for the majority.

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                              • FrediKanoute
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 3807

                                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

                                Originally posted by kruder
                                Can anyone see the sense of Cordy playing as defensive forward on Aliir Aliir and continue the role in the finals? I just think we might need someone to help out Naughty and English to create separation which is when they are at their most dangerous.

                                I have real concern that Hannan/Juh can perform this role effectively. My other concern would then be having to play Young/Schache in defence but I guess as a third tall it would take the pressure off to a degree and it would potentially allow English to stay forward for the majority.
                                Yes! Move should have been made v the Hawks. He creates mayhem.

                                JUH - too raw and not ready. If Bruce was fit I would carry JUH through the finals (like we did with Dunks);

                                Hannan - needs to get fitter

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