Jack Macrae

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Jack Macrae

Do you think the club is happy or sad that he has asked for a trade?

If you are not playing someone in your 22 of his experience, surely you are not surprised he is asking for a trade?

Did the club tell him, you are going to struggle to be in the best 22 again?

Without knowledge of his exit meeting we are all jumping to conclusions.

I think if the proposed trade is ok, the club will be happy from an objective pick/salary perspective. There wasn’t a huge output this season. If say Sanders could replicate this low-mid output next year then we get a pick and save a huge amount of cash.

Being that we managed finals without Smith too. Getting some picks and saving huge amounts of cap is an ok situation. He will get good time at say the Saints so it’s win-win-win potentially.

[Scorlibo]

Re: Jack Macrae

Very sad to know we've seen the last of Jacko in Dogs colours, but happy for him - it's clearly the right call for his career. If you were his manager you'd be screaming 'trade' to him daily. He's a champion on baller who has taken on the responsibility the last two years to play half forward and done it pretty well, especially in 2023.

Did we forget how good this guy was? We might get a reminder next year in another team's colours.

[soupman]

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I think this is the best outcome for all parties, particularly the club that picks him up real cheap.

I like him but he hasn't really shown an ability to get back into our midfield and if we aren't picking him there I'd rather we reinvest those resources into something more suited to the roles that are left.

[FrediKanoute]

Re: Jack Macrae

Do you think the club is happy or sad that he has asked for a trade?

If you are not playing someone in your 22 of his experience, surely you are not surprised he is asking for a trade?

Did the club tell him, you are going to struggle to be in the best 22 again?

Without knowledge of his exit meeting we are all jumping to conclusions.

That is what I suspect. I suspect he asked what are my chances and he will have been told he is behind a number of players, but they want him to fight for his spot. He has responded What if a seek a trade and the club has said we will try to make it happen.

[Scorlibo]

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That is what I suspect. I suspect he asked what are my chances and he will have been told he is behind a number of players, but they want him to fight for his spot. He has responded What if a seek a trade and the club has said we will try to make it happen.

I mean... does it even need to be said? He's been fighting for a spot all year.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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That is what I suspect. I suspect he asked what are my chances and he will have been told he is behind a number of players, but they want him to fight for his spot. He has responded What if a seek a trade and the club has said we will try to make it happen.

No Bevo hates Macrae and it's his fault Macrae is leaving. Honestly, I've been a big Bevo critic but he can't win a lot of the time. Fans want him to be more ruthless, which has happened this season and now a fan favourite is on the outer due to performance and he wants a trade for more opportunity but fans point the finger at Bevo saying he's slighted Jack somehow. To me it's pretty obvious why Jack wants out.

[Mantis]

Re: Jack Macrae

In parts I do.
I see the problem that the game was getting past him, but he was ELITE. I just feel he was given the hard talk about earning his spot. I have no doubt he was dropped from the VC coz it’s hell of a lot easier to drop someone NOT the VC. That was the first nail in the coffin. Having to “prove” himself at start of the year in the VFL was the 2nd nail. And then being “managed” later in the year and multiple “subs” was probably the final nail for him.
He certainly didn’t seem himself the majority of the year…his enthusiasm on field after goals etc just seem a little diluted. It doesn’t surprise me at all he’s asked for a trade. This one hurts more than Smith. Macrae always seemed to me he’d want to be like Bont/Libba and be a one club player.
I wish him all the best though.

He was an elite player, but the last time he was in that category was 3-4 years ago.

The way I read it is that our core midfield in 22-23 of Jack, Bont, Libba and Treloar were not getting the job done, all have absolute elite qualities, but as a group the lack of pace and defensive pressure they apply had us very much in the average team bracket.

The MC rightly, have tried to refresh the group and whilst it was an extremely difficult choice on who drops out, they have probably chosen correctly in reducing Jack's time in the middle.

Unfortunately, Jack hasn't been influential in other roles which leaves him on the edge of our best team, which is a spot Jack doesn't feel comfortable with hence his want to seek other opportunities.

[ReLoad]

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We've got cap space we can't use because noone of note wants to come here. We're also usually not desperate enough like the saints to throw it at a b-grader.

Adam Treloar says Hi.

[ReLoad]

Re: Jack Macrae

What i do wonder is if we don't have Jack take Libbas role. There is an absolute need for a player like Jack in any side, the trick is you cant have more than 1 of him, we have multiple.

As it stands as much as i love Libba, id rather keep jack than Libba.

[Danjul]

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He was an elite player, but the last time he was in that category was 3-4 years ago.

The way I read it is that our core midfield in 22-23 of Jack, Bont, Libba and Treloar were not getting the job done, all have absolute elite qualities, but as a group the lack of pace and defensive pressure they apply had us very much in the average team bracket.

The MC rightly, have tried to refresh the group and whilst it was an extremely difficult choice on who drops out, they have probably chosen correctly in reducing Jack?s time in the middle.

Unfortunately Jack hasn?t been influential in other roles which leaves him on the edge of our best team, which is a spot Jack doesn?t feel comfortable with hence his want to seek other opportunities.

I have to apologise for comments about Macrae after I attended the GWS game.

That was the last time we won and I argued that Macrae played well. After reading what independent commentators have written I realise that I have misled WOOF. The last article I read said he was outstanding.

Outstanding when we win and sub when we lose.

Actually my view of the final was that he was outstanding when we lost. More influential in a quarter than many players in a whole game.

[Mantis]

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I have to apologise for comments about Macrae after I attended the GWS game.

That was the last time we won and I argued that Macrae played well. After reading what independent commentators have written I realise that I have misled WOOF. The last article I read said he was outstanding.

Outstanding when we win and sub when we lose.

Actually my view of the final was that he was outstanding when we lost. More influential in a quarter than many players in a whole game.

I feel you need to find an alternative source of information if the scribe as stated called Macrae's game vs GWS outstanding. He was on the better side of serviceable as referenced by him only drawing 1 vote from the 27 WOOF posters who vote on the game. However, over the course of the year his impact on the game in the role he has been asked to play (a high HF), which is a role he probably isn't suited to in the modern game has been negligible.

I listened to SEN this morning and both Kane & Tim were really struggling to find a club that would be suited to Jack and really struggled to pick that club. Both suggested that his lack of leg speed is prohibitive to him playing a key role in most team's midfields as the game is now all about pace and you can't have too many ''one pacers', which is a position we find ourselves in.

[G-Mo77]

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Adam Treloar says Hi.

Bit of a gift that one. He didn't want to leave and was forced out. I think we were opportunistic with Treloar, which is fine. I hope something like that falls into our lap again soon.

[Mofra]

Re: Jack Macrae

I feel you need to find an alternative source of information if the scribe as stated called Macrae's game vs GWS outstanding. He was on the better side of serviceable as referenced by him only drawing 1 vote from the 27 WOOF posters who vote on the game. However, over the course of the year his impact on the game in the role he has been asked to play (a high HF), which is a role he probably isn't suited to in the modern game has been negligible.

I listened to SEN this morning and both Kane & Tim were really struggling to find a club that would be suited to Jack and really struggled to pick that club. Both suggested that his lack of leg speed is prohibitive to him playing a key role in most team's midfields as the game is now all about pace and you can't have too many ''one pacers', which is a position we find ourselves in.

The other factor is the game is now more "front stoppage" so teams are happy to move the ball to the front of the stoppage and back their burst mids to take territory. Hawks did that brilliantly last Friday.

Macrae is a brilliant "handball club" player but that game style is now dead. Bevo knows it, we have to evolve, and as much as I like Macrae he's a victim of this evolution.

[Mitcha]

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Interestingly still nothing on the club website, fake news?

[GVGjr]

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Interestingly still nothing on the club website, fake news?

Perhaps something later today but a good call out.