Jack Macrae

[1eyedog]

Re: Jack Macrae

Leaking like a sieve.

Where does he go, what can we get and how much do we have to pay someone else to take him?

lol.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Jack Macrae

Leaking like a sieve.

Where does he go, what can we get and how much do we have to pay someone else to take him?

lol.

Depends on the club he chooses and the salary we may or may not contribute. Maybe a third rounder or small pick upgrade. But it opens up a huge amount of cap space if Power can find players worth of big price tags to agree to join us.

[Rocket Science]

Re: Jack Macrae

Ah jeez.

Rationalise this one all you like but unlike the grifter in #6 this one stings and feels like we're discarding some genuine heart and soul.

Great to know there's still a place for Harmes though.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Re: Jack Macrae

Depends on the club he chooses and the salary we may or may not contribute. Maybe a third rounder or small pick upgrade. But it opens up a huge amount of cap space if Power can find players worth of big price tags to agree to join us.

We've got cap space we can't use because noone of note wants to come here. We're also usually not desperate enough like the saints to throw it at a b-grader.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Jack Macrae

We've got cap space we can't use because noone of note wants to come here. We're also usually not desperate enough like the saints to throw it at a b-grader.

Can’t quite agree. We outbid for the services of Croz & Keath. Put up good money for Josh Bruce too. Took on Lobb’s full salary. It’s a matter of picking the right mark. We’ve had strong media reporting of offering Max Holmes & Barrass a million a year. So we are obviously happy to throw the cash around. I wonder if we are going hard at other targets the media haven’t got wind of? No idea.

But we can bank the cap, also there may be opportunities for salary dump trades of some ok players potentially. So we should keep an eye out for those. Also for free agency next year.

Not a bad situation to be in.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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Can’t quite agree. We outbid for the services of Croz & Keath. Put up good money for Josh Bruce too. Took on Lobb’s full salary. It’s a matter of picking the right mark. We’ve had strong media reporting of offering Max Holmes & Barrass a million a year. So we are obviously happy to throw the cash around. I wonder if we are going hard at other targets the media haven’t got wind of? No idea.

But we can bank the cap, also there may be opportunities for salary dump trades of some ok players potentially. So we should keep an eye out for those. Also for free agency next year.

Not a bad situation to be in.

I mean Holmes and Barrass both turned us down. As soon as another bigger club gets interested in a player of worth, said player chooses the bigger club.

The likes of Croz, Keath, Bruce and Lobb are not exactly what I would call players of note and likely chose us as no other big club was as interested. Keath is probably the only exception as he was of note at the time but thats borderline. We need some a-grade talent in the midfield and down back. I don't see us getting that any other way than high picks in the draft which will take a few years to bear fruit. We don't even have those picks and won't get them this year despite losing a former pick 6 who's 23 and entering his prime. The whole system is geared towards big clubs.

[bulldogtragic]

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I mean Holmes and Barrass both turned us down. As soon as another bigger club gets interested in a player of worth, said player chooses the bigger club.

The likes of Croz, Keath, Bruce and Lobb are not exactly what I would call players of note and likely chose us as no other big club was as interested. Keath is probably the only exception as he was of note at the time but thats borderline. We need some a-grade talent in the midfield and down back. I don't see us getting that any other way than high picks in the draft which will take a few years to bear fruit. We don't even have those picks and won't get them this year.

You said we don’t throw cash at B graders. I think we have recently. That’s just by the by. I tend to agree about not getting A-graders from trade/free agency but you need to have the cap room to at least be a chance. If take the picks to the draft personally. I’d throw the money at next years free agents, of which there’s some good ones, and bank the cap next year. I think we have the talent to still make finals next year with a bunch of kids at the draft. But then aiming to have replacements ready to promote in 2026-2027.

I think we still have some pretty interesting draft trade opportunities this year if we get some points in and look to move up the order.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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You said we don’t throw cash at B graders. I think we have recently. That’s just by the by. I tend to agree about not getting A-graders from trade/free agency but you need to have the cap room to at least be a chance. If take the picks to the draft personally. I’d throw the money at next years free agents, of which there’s some good ones, and bank the cap next year. I think we have the talent to still make finals next year with a bunch of kids at the draft. But then aiming to have replacements ready to promote in 2026-2027.

I think we still have some pretty interesting draft trade opportunities this year if we get some points in and look to move up the order.

Oh I see. Yeah but I'm not sure we offer the type of contracts the saints do. I don't actually know though. But the saints seem to go all out for the likes of Hill, Henry etc as though they're A-grade stars. I'm glad we keep out of that sort of stuff.

[bulldogtragic]

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Oh I see. Yeah but I'm not sure we offer the type of contracts the saints do. I don't actually know though. But the saints seem to go all out for the likes of Hill, Henry etc as though they're A-grade stars. I'm glad we keep out of that sort of stuff.

They’ve gotten desperate. From memory we outbid them directly on Croz & Keath on salary and years. So to get guys through the door they’re offering silly money. Not sure it’s the greatest strategy though. We have some good options so I’m optimistic about what we can do with lots of picks and plenty of cap.

[Bornadog]

Re: Jack Macrae

Leaking like a sieve.

Where does he go, what can we get and how much do we have to pay someone else to take him?

lol.

he has a contract and if we want to keep him, we have to convince him he is still wanted.

[DOG GOD]

Re: Jack Macrae

The way he was treated this year what would you expect.

[Mantis]

Re: Jack Macrae

The way he was treated this year what would you expect.

Do you feel he was treated poorly?

[SonofScray]

Re: Jack Macrae

Didn?t have a problem with him being challenged to find a role and thought the impact of that approach from Bevo was one of the few positives he?s put up strategically.

Flip side, it?s another highly valued club man prepared to walk away. The commentary around Roughead and his relationship with footy and the club when he left was sad and problematic and I?d be curious if Macrae?s thoughts were along a similar vein.

Not prepared to say him leaving is inherently bad, or indicative of a toxic environment, however, it is incongruent with the type of culture and environment that is espoused publicly.

What?s happening that a player of his calibre isn?t prepared to find a way? Matty Boyd did.

Could be part of a salary cap dump. I suppose.

[DOG GOD]

Re: Jack Macrae

Do you feel he was treated poorly?

In parts I do.
I see the problem that the game was getting past him, but he was ELITE. I just feel he was given the hard talk about earning his spot. I have no doubt he was dropped from the VC coz it’s hell of a lot easier to drop someone NOT the VC. That was the first nail in the coffin. Having to “prove” himself at start of the year in the VFL was the 2nd nail. And then being “managed” later in the year and multiple “subs” was probably the final nail for him.
He certainly didn’t seem himself the majority of the year…his enthusiasm on field after goals etc just seem a little diluted. It doesn’t surprise me at all he’s asked for a trade. This one hurts more than Smith. Macrae always seemed to me he’d want to be like Bont/Libba and be a one club player.
I wish him all the best though.

[angelopetraglia]

Re: Jack Macrae

Do you think the club is happy or sad that he has asked for a trade?

If you are not playing someone in your 22 of his experience, surely you are not surprised he is asking for a trade?

Did the club tell him, you are going to struggle to be in the best 22 again?

Without knowledge of his exit meeting we are all jumping to conclusions.