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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #76
    Re: Jack Macrae

    Originally posted by macca
    In terms of salary cap space we would want to trade him if he is not getting enough games.
    This. We ain’t getting overs. Best case from the Aints is maybe their pick 43 and best case a swap of F4’s. It’s about all about the cap. In terms of the role he now plays, his salary costs just way too much for the output. Clearly the club isn’t going to change its mind about his role. So it just it what it is.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • Hotdog60
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Aug 2009
      • 5908

      #77
      Re: Jack Macrae

      What if we had his contract front end loaded and he is currently on peanuts.
      Don't piss off old people
      The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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      • Axe Man
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2008
        • 11186

        #78
        Re: Jack Macrae

        Originally posted by Hotdog60
        What if we had his contract front end loaded and he is currently on peanuts.
        Highly unlikely. He's only 2 years into a 5 year deal and the HUN list has him on $650-$750K this season.

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34289

          #79
          Re: Jack Macrae

          Originally posted by Hotdog60
          What if we had his contract front end loaded and he is currently on peanuts.
          He’s only two years into a five year deal. That’s highly improbable.
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • G-Mo77
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Apr 2007
            • 9876

            #80
            Re: Jack Macrae

            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
            This. We ain’t getting overs. Best case from the Aints is maybe their pick 43 and best case a swap of F4’s. It’s about all about the cap. In terms of the role he now plays, his salary costs just way too much for the output. Clearly the club isn’t going to change its mind about his role. So it just it what it is.
            I think people are a little confused on this. I saw on socials some really poor takes and saying around 43 is not enough or a 3rd round is not close. Yes it is. Those that are open to moving him remember we'll be virtually giving him away. He's worth a lot to us but not worth much at all in the open market.

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            • 1eyedog
              Hall of Fame
              • Mar 2008
              • 13236

              #81
              Re: Jack Macrae

              Originally posted by Axe Man
              Highly unlikely. He's only 2 years into a 5 year deal and the HUN list has him on $650-$750K this season.
              Terrible management locking him away for 5. Outrageous the club should be getting more heat. We're basically doing an Adam Treloar type scenario. Shithouse.
              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34289

                #82
                Re: Jack Macrae

                Originally posted by G-Mo77
                I think people are a little confused on this. I saw on socials some really poor takes and saying around 43 is not enough or a 3rd round is not close. Yes it is. Those that are open to moving him remember we'll be virtually giving him away. He's worth a lot to us but not worth much at all in the open market.
                Yep. It’s closer to a salary dump trade than not. Look at the value of those. Their Pick 43 without researching the shit out of them all seems about what I expect from studying trades.
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • Axe Man
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 11186

                  #83
                  Re: Jack Macrae

                  Originally posted by 1eyedog
                  Terrible management locking him away for 5. Outrageous the club should be getting more heat. We're basically doing an Adam Treloar type scenario. Shithouse.
                  It's easy to say in hindsight but he signed that deal off the back of his 2021 which was excellent. I looked back at the contract thread out of interest and there was not a single negative comment about Jack's re-signing at the time, everyone was rapt.

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                  • G-Mo77
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9876

                    #84
                    Re: Jack Macrae

                    Originally posted by 1eyedog
                    Terrible management locking him away for 5. Outrageous the club should be getting more heat. We're basically doing an Adam Treloar type scenario. Shithouse.
                    It is shithouse but not the same. Worst comes to worst we can keep Jack. Collingwood did not have that luxury, it was an absolute mess.

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34289

                      #85
                      Re: Jack Macrae

                      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                      Yep. It’s closer to a salary dump trade than not. Look at the value of those. Their Pick 43 without researching the shit out of them all seems about what I expect from studying trades.
                      Further to that. Say we take 43.

                      43 & our 44 = Pick 22 in Draft Points

                      With plenty of clubs with options ahead of this there’s an opportunity to then trade up the order, not to 22, but say maybe 30 if we decide to do that with the back to back picks.

                      It’s not necessarily just the pick, it’s what we can turn it into. That might get lost on social media as opposed to Jack being worth what he was 3 years ago.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44661

                        #86
                        Re: Jack Macrae

                        Originally posted by Axe Man
                        Highly unlikely. He's only 2 years into a 5 year deal and the HUN list has him on $650-$750K this season.
                        We might even have to contribute 150K a season to the club that chases him.
                        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                        • Grantysghost
                          Bouncing Strong
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 18968

                          #87
                          Re: Jack Macrae

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          We might even have to contribute 150K a season to the club that chases him.
                          That makes sense, although does that happen when the player requests the trade?

                          I assume that he would only do that because there's been an offer?
                          BT COME BACK!​

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                          • 1eyedog
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 13236

                            #88
                            Re: Jack Macrae

                            Originally posted by G-Mo77
                            It is shithouse but not the same. Worst comes to worst we can keep Jack. Collingwood did not have that luxury, it was an absolute mess.
                            Either way it's gonna cost us a shit ton of money for nothing.
                            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                            • Uninformed
                              Draftee
                              • Jan 2023
                              • 826

                              #89
                              Re: Jack Macrae

                              Jack has been such a great player for us. Will be forever revered at our club.

                              I enjoyed seeing something of his personality in the media when vice-captain.

                              Important for us to balance and renew our list to reflect changes in the game and in our approach though.

                              Go well Jack!

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 44661

                                #90
                                Re: Jack Macrae

                                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                                That makes sense, although does that happen when the player requests the trade?

                                I assume that he would only do that because there's been an offer?
                                It depends on the pick involved in the trade. We wouldn't contribute a cent if it was for a latish pick ie a salary cap dump but we might if we got a more favorable selection.
                                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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