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  • MrMahatma
    Coaching Staff
    • Sep 2007
    • 3966

    Re: Assistant Coaches

    Do we know that we’ve tried to get senior assistants in the past but failed? We got one lady year.

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44410

      Re: Assistant Coaches

      Originally posted by doggies ftw
      Good assistants have only ever walked out of our club under Bevo, not in. I?m not sure if it?s exactly a draw card, on current evidence looks like more the opposite to be completely honest.
      Hansen, Gia and King were ambitious assistant coaches who want to prepare for a chance to be a senior coach. Moving clubs helps them gain a broader experience to hopefully achieve their goals. On the flip side we brought Lade in who also has ambitions.

      I think we are a good destination for assistant coaches.
      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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      • Axe Man
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2008
        • 11056

        Re: Assistant Coaches

        Originally posted by MrMahatma
        Do we know that we’ve tried to get senior assistants in the past but failed? We got one lady year.
        Lay Ladey Lay?

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        • ledge
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2007
          • 14186

          Re: Assistant Coaches

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          Hansen, Gia and King were ambitious assistant coaches who want to prepare for a chance to be a senior coach. Moving clubs helps them gain a broader experience to hopefully achieve their goals. On the flip side we brought Lade in who also has ambitions.

          I think we are a good destination for assistant coaches.
          We have been good at giving coaches their first go .. Bevo , Malthouse , Wallace were successful ones . Hart, McCartney being terrible.
          If you’re looking for a club to take a chance you would look at the dogs.
          Bring back the biff

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          • doggies ftw
            Draftee
            • Dec 2013
            • 607

            Re: Assistant Coaches

            Originally posted by jazzadogs
            To be fair they walked out after 5-6 years, searching for upgraded opportunities, so it can't have been that bad.

            Since then both King and Hansen have coached AFL games haven't they? Probably feeling pretty vindicated.
            They left for similar opportunities, nothing wrong with that. But when a team who has just played in a GFs two best options to replace them are literally a first time coach at any level!! And Webb. Well that says a lot.

            All started with Monty early days who saw the writing on the wall I guess, Monty, Gia, Hansen, King, Corey even Dal who wasn?t even under the same umbrella as Bev didn?t want to work with him, all one way traffic, the one big signing we?ve had under Bev was Lade a guy who has never worked in a successful environment in a decade long coaching career.

            We?ll see what happens this year, but from where I?m standing people are definitely not scrambling to work under a great coach in Bev, quite the opposite. I wonder why?

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            • Vred
              Senior Player
              • Nov 2018
              • 1301

              Re: Assistant Coaches

              Michael Barlow
              Stew Dew
              Andrew McQualter
              Brendan Lade

              Not a shabby panel if you ask me.
              [I][B]"Its always good to win the Ashes test match'' - Libba, AFL Grand Final, 2016[/B][/I]

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              • JanLorMill
                WOOF Member
                • Feb 2023
                • 1646

                Re: Assistant Coaches

                Originally posted by Axe Man
                Lay Ladey Lay?
                Lay across my big brass bed

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                • JanLorMill
                  WOOF Member
                  • Feb 2023
                  • 1646

                  Re: Assistant Coaches

                  Originally posted by Vred
                  Michael Barlow
                  Stew Dew
                  Andrew McQualter
                  Brendan Lade

                  Not a shabby panel if you ask me.
                  Unfortunately only one of them is actually with us atm and his influence was questioned this year.

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44410

                    Re: Assistant Coaches

                    Originally posted by Vred
                    Michael Barlow
                    Stew Dew
                    Andrew McQualter
                    Brendan Lade

                    Not a shabby panel if you ask me.
                    It almost has too many senior assistants but like to get Barlow. Webb's role was stoppages and opposition analysis. That might be a good role for one of them.
                    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                    • jazzadogs
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 5601

                      Re: Assistant Coaches

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      It almost has too many senior assistants but like to get Barlow. Webb's role was stoppages and opposition analysis. That might be a good role for one of them.
                      Can you have too many good assistant coaches? I agree they can't all have the title of 'senior' assistant but if they're getting paid enough they probably don't care.


                      Just as an exercise I looked up other panels from this year and we stack up pretty well on numbers and experience...

                      2023 coaching panels
                      Bulldogs
                      Bevo
                      Lade
                      Webb
                      Smith
                      Spangher
                      + Maddocks, Stef Martin, Varcoe (development)

                      Collingwood
                      McRae
                      Brendan Bolton (director of coaching, defence)
                      Leppitsch (Strategy, Forwards)
                      Hayden Skipworth
                      Scott Selwood
                      + Fraser, Jetta, Roughead (development)

                      Melbourne
                      Goodwin
                      Alan Richardson (General Manager of AFL football performance ???)
                      Yze (mids)
                      Troy Chaplin (backs)
                      Greg Stafford (forwards)
                      Mark Williams (Head of Development)

                      Carlton
                      Voss
                      Hansen (forwards/"offense")
                      Hamill (backs)
                      Tim Clarke (mids)
                      Kreuzer (rucks)
                      Luke Power (development, VFL)
                      Lonergan, Brad Ebert, Torin Baker (development)

                      Note Brisbane has four ex Bulldogs on their coaching panel - Adcock (backs), Ben Hudson (VFL coach), Morris (development), Hahn (academy)

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                      • jazzadogs
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 5601

                        Re: Assistant Coaches

                        Originally posted by Vred
                        Michael Barlow
                        Stew Dew
                        Andrew McQualter
                        Brendan Lade

                        Not a shabby panel if you ask me.
                        Is this a thought, or based on your sources?

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                        • mjp
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 7318

                          Re: Assistant Coaches

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          It almost has too many senior assistants but like to get Barlow. Webb's role was stoppages and opposition analysis. That might be a good role for one of them.
                          I don't think it is the roles below Bevo that are necessarily a problem. I'm pretty sure most of the guys in JD's list can coach and communicate.

                          It 'feels' like covering for the Maple 'role' (whatever that is - pretty sure he just did what he did after being at the club for a long time without everything being spelled out in a JDF) has left not just Bevo but the AC's and Hi-Performance team trying to fill gaps...

                          Again - I don't know but it feels like unity and leadership is the key, not names on a page. And whilst I'm sure the names (Barlow, Dew, McQualter et al being mentioned) impress some people, players wont care. They want people who show through their actions they are willing to support them and help them improve their game...
                          What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                          • Vred
                            Senior Player
                            • Nov 2018
                            • 1301

                            Re: Assistant Coaches

                            Originally posted by jazzadogs
                            Is this a thought, or based on your sources?
                            All coaches we are chasing.
                            [I][B]"Its always good to win the Ashes test match'' - Libba, AFL Grand Final, 2016[/B][/I]

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                            • jazzadogs
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 5601

                              Re: Assistant Coaches

                              Originally posted by Vred
                              All coaches we are chasing.
                              Hopefully we get one or two off the list. If we get none, then the 'nobody wants to work with Bevo' drums start pounding pretty loudly.

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                              • kruder
                                Coaching Staff
                                • May 2011
                                • 3805

                                Re: Assistant Coaches

                                Originally posted by Vred
                                Michael Barlow
                                Stew Dew
                                Andrew McQualter
                                Brendan Lade

                                Not a shabby panel if you ask me.
                                Yze is Richmond's coach so McQualter will be on the market

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