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  • kruder
    Coaching Staff
    • May 2011
    • 3790

    Re: Assistant Coaches

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    I'd be okay with us being linked again with King. He would have learned a lot in his time at the Suns.
    On how not to make the 8? Surely we are crying out for a new voice?

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66215

      Re: Assistant Coaches

      Originally posted by kruder
      On how not to make the 8? Surely we are crying out for a new voice?
      I would prefer new voices
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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34316

        Re: Assistant Coaches

        Originally posted by kruder
        On how not to make the 8? Surely we are crying out for a new voice?
        Harsh…

        …How to have heaps of highly talented players on a list and not win games.

        Couldn’t agree more on the new voice. Why are we always linked to ex players or coaches? This off season I’ve seen King, Gia, Boyd, Murphy, Cameron etc. Are we that incapable or unwilling to find new people?
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        • Grantysghost
          Bouncing Strong
          • Apr 2010
          • 18912

          Re: Assistant Coaches

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          Harsh…

          …How to have heaps of highly talented players on a list and not win games.

          Couldn’t agree more on the new voice. Why are we always linked to ex players or coaches? This off season I’ve seen King, Gia, Boyd, Murphy, Cameron etc. Are we that incapable or unwilling to find new people?
          Lade, Spangher, Webb?
          BT COME BACK!​

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          • 1eyedog
            Hall of Fame
            • Mar 2008
            • 13191

            Re: Assistant Coaches

            Originally posted by kruder
            On how not to make the 8? Surely we are crying out for a new voice?
            That club is doomed I tell ya. Reckon King still has good connections at the club. We did well when he was around we could do far worse imo.

            Obviously works well with Bevo.
            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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            • kruder
              Coaching Staff
              • May 2011
              • 3790

              Re: Assistant Coaches

              My biggest concern at the club is Grant, if anyone has heard his interview on SEN post season it was far from convincing. I'd be stunned if we haven't got a senior assistant lined up since the review began mid year, knowing some of the coaching staff were moving on and also the fact the Bevos wage was freeing up cap space. If we have not and left it last minute then It's the definition of incompetence.

              I'm not going to panic yet lets see what happens over the next month and as we have said many times the first handful of games next year will answer many questions.

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44369

                Re: Assistant Coaches

                Originally posted by kruder
                On how not to make the 8? Surely we are crying out for a new voice?
                It's an interesting perspective if the assumption is only people from successful clubs can help a team.

                The Collingwood assistants haven't necessarily come from successful coaching appointments and it's about working with and supporting the head coach and I think King has some of those qualities. You might be right and perhaps it's just too early to consider him returning but I'm not sure why you discrediting him for his 2 years at the Suns.
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                • Grantysghost
                  Bouncing Strong
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 18912

                  Re: Assistant Coaches

                  Originally posted by GVGjr
                  It's an interesting perspective if the assumption is only people from successful clubs can help a team.

                  The Collingwood assistants haven't necessarily come from successful coaching appointments and it's about working with and supporting the head coach and I think King has some of those qualities. Perhaps it's just too early to consider him returning but I'm not sure why you discrediting him for his 2 years at the Suns.
                  Two ex senior coaches at Pies. Could Bevo absorb that?
                  BT COME BACK!​

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44369

                    Re: Assistant Coaches

                    Originally posted by Grantysghost
                    Two ex senior coaches at Pies. Could Bevo absorb that?
                    They've had to curb their ambitions and have jumped in behind their now premiership coach.
                    I wonder if Grant thinks that's the sort of experience we need but we will start to get linked to some names soon enough.
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                    • jazzadogs
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 5587

                      Re: Assistant Coaches

                      I heard a comment from McRae today "I'm not arrogant, but I'm a winner. I'm in the business of winning. Every day I'm looking at ways I can get better, so that I win".

                      I think Bevo and Bont are winners. I'm not sure how many others we have with that attitude. I think that's a priority for this off season, on and off field.

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                      • Sedat
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 11152

                        Re: Assistant Coaches

                        Originally posted by kruder
                        My biggest concern at the club is Grant, if anyone has heard his interview on SEN post season it was far from convincing. I'd be stunned if we haven't got a senior assistant lined up since the review began mid year, knowing some of the coaching staff were moving on and also the fact the Bevos wage was freeing up cap space. If we have not and left it last minute then It's the definition of incompetence.

                        I'm not going to panic yet lets see what happens over the next month and as we have said many times the first handful of games next year will answer many questions.
                        Agreed unfortunately. Granty doesn't compare well with his counterpart at Collingwood, Graham Wright. A high quality head of footy can make a big difference in a short space of time, as Wright has done.
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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34316

                          Re: Assistant Coaches

                          Is working for Bevo is a selling point or a drawback? I would’ve thought the former, but there’s no apparent queue to get here. I didn’t think we’d be in October with three assistants down, a fitness boss down and still no Maple replacement. When other clubs are signing them up by the day, I’m starting to wonder why assistants aren’t wanting to work here under a premiership coach.
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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 44369

                            Re: Assistant Coaches

                            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                            Is working for Bevo is a selling point or a drawback? I would’ve thought the former, but there’s no apparent queue to get here. I didn’t think we’d be in October with three assistants down, a fitness boss down and still no Maple replacement. When other clubs are signing them up by the day, I’m starting to wonder why assistants aren’t wanting to work here under a premiership coach.
                            It should be seen by assistant coaches as a real positive. Bevo's a premiership coach, we are about to have an excellent training facility and we have a playing list that has under-performed but with some very exciting talent. I'd imagine most assistant coaches would would think it's a good destination
                            Ambitious assistant coaches might be put off by having the experienced Brendan Lade in front of them but if you look at the Pies set-up being part of a united coaching team has worked well for Bolton and Leppa.

                            Lets see what starts to jump off by the end of the week.
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                            • Grantysghost
                              Bouncing Strong
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 18912

                              Re: Assistant Coaches

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              It should be seen by assistant coaches as a real positive. Bevo's a premiership coach, we are about to have an excellent training facility and we have a playing list that has under-performed but with some very exciting talent. I'd imagine most assistant coaches would would think it's a good destination
                              Ambitious assistant coaches might be put off by having the experienced Brendan Lade in front of them but if you look at the Pies set-up being part of a united coaching team has worked well for Bolton and Leppa.

                              Lets see what starts to jump off by the end of the week.
                              Plus could be a bit of dead man walking too.
                              BT COME BACK!​

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 44369

                                Re: Assistant Coaches

                                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                                Plus could be a bit of dead man walking too.
                                Agreed, that point would not be lost on a few of the more ambitious types.
                                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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