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  • EasternWest
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Aug 2009
    • 9999

    Re: Assistant Coaches

    Originally posted by angelopetraglia
    My question on Stuart Dew. It is his weight.

    AFL sporting clubs are elite athletic environments where players need to show discipline in all aspects of their life and importantly treat their bodies with respect. In an elite athletic environment do you respect someone who is obese?

    If you can't have self control and disclipline in the most important thing in your life, your overall well being and health (without your own health, you can't help yourself, your family or anyone else) then why should I trust you with anything else?

    Is that too harsh? Is that fair? Or is that an unreasonable view?
    I think it's irrelevant.

    People are flawed, but it's possible to be two (and more) things at once.

    If he's the right footballing guy, then his appearance doesn't matter. In actual fact even if he's the wrong footballing guy his appearance doesn't matter.
    "It's over. It's all over."

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    • hujsh
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2007
      • 11859

      Re: Assistant Coaches

      Originally posted by angelopetraglia
      My question on Stuart Dew. It is his weight.

      AFL sporting clubs are elite athletic environments where players need to show discipline in all aspects of their life and importantly treat their bodies with respect. In an elite athletic environment do you respect someone who is obese?

      If you can't have self control and disclipline in the most important thing in your life, your overall well being and health (without your own health, you can't help yourself, your family or anyone else) then why should I trust you with anything else?

      Is that too harsh? Is that fair? Or is that an unreasonable view?
      Dude was amazing in a GF looking like he was smuggling something through customs. I'd want to know his secrets
      Last edited by hujsh; 30-08-2023, 09:56 AM.
      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34316

        Re: Assistant Coaches

        Originally posted by EasternWest
        I think it's irrelevant.

        People are flawed, but it's possible to be two (and more) things at once.

        If he's the right footballing guy, then his appearance doesn't matter. In actual fact even if he's the wrong footballing guy his appearance doesn't matter.
        I?d love to spend a day out with him. Seems like a good bloke and I reckon he?d bolt out to an early lead on the beers and pies and just never give that lead up. Come to think of it, that?s exactly what this group needs to learn asap!

        He?s our man!

        But moreover he?s being hired for his brain, before the rumours started he had GCS humming with dreams of their first finals after beating them top 8 sides dogs & crows. Then the board backed him about the rumours of Hardwick…

        He can coach, and that?s all I?m interested in.
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • Jasper
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2009
          • 1264

          Re: Assistant Coaches

          Originally posted by EasternWest
          I think it's irrelevant.

          People are flawed, but it's possible to be two (and more) things at once.

          If he's the right footballing guy, then his appearance doesn't matter. In actual fact even if he's the wrong footballing guy his appearance doesn't matter.
          It shouldnt be given the position he is being considered for but there will always be people of judge on other criteria. Id take Mark Williams in a heartbeat but he is no slim jim.
          Doing my best to use emojis more frequently :o

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          • angelopetraglia
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Nov 2008
            • 6828

            Re: Assistant Coaches

            Mark Williams 65

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            • ReLoad
              Senior Player
              • Sep 2009
              • 1455

              Re: Assistant Coaches

              Originally posted by Jasper
              It should be given the position he is being considered for but there will always be people of judge on other criteria. Id take Mark Williams in a heartbeat but he is no slim jim.
              You could also say, is the type of person that loves a solarium and Devinci veneers as their chompers are they the right type of person you want leading?

              We're all flawed.

              Now pass me the donuts.

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              • angelopetraglia
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Nov 2008
                • 6828

                Re: Assistant Coaches

                Stuart Dew 44

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                • angelopetraglia
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 6828

                  Re: Assistant Coaches

                  Adam Kingsley

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66379

                    Re: Assistant Coaches

                    Dew is highly regarded, even by Australian cricket team in recent Ashes series. His weight is irrelevant

                    FFC: Established 1883

                    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                    • ledge
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 14232

                      Re: Assistant Coaches

                      Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                      Adam Kingsley

                      Well Kingsley and Bevo should get on well looking at his muscle . They can talk tactics while working out in the new gym .
                      Bring back the biff

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                      • Sedat
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 11173

                        Re: Assistant Coaches

                        Originally posted by Grantysghost
                        I don't think it matters at all. Who knows why he carries weight it could well be something out of his control.
                        If he's a good coach he's a good coach.

                        Of course there are professional standards to maintain, from what I understand this has never been an issue for Dew. I can only assume he wouldn't get very good references if that were the case.
                        Whilst I agree that his physical condition doesn't really matter in terms of competency, the bolded bit is very much in everybody's individual control.

                        My concern with Dew is not about bringing his sharp mind into the coaches box, it is about the distinct possibility that we will "appoint a senior assistant" and essentially be done with the review of our entire operation - that's just a re-heated version of what we did last year with our pissy internal review and bringing in Brendan Lade. I'm not a fan of the optics coming out of our club post-season so far.
                        "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34316

                          Re: Assistant Coaches

                          Originally posted by Sedat
                          Whilst I agree that his physical condition doesn't really matter in terms of competency, the bolded bit is very much in everybody's individual control.

                          My concern with Dew is not about bringing his sharp mind into the coaches box, it is about the distinct possibility that we will "appoint a senior assistant" and essentially be done with the review of our entire operation. I'm not a fan of the optics coming out of our club post-season so far.
                          A bit Judge Smails so far, “you’ll get nothing and like it”.

                          Hopefully something changes for the better, especially a rethink on an external review.
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • hujsh
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 11859

                            Re: Assistant Coaches

                            Originally posted by Sedat
                            Whilst I agree that his physical condition doesn't really matter in terms of competency, the bolded bit is very much in everybody's individual control.
                            Not always true. There are medical conditions, medications etc that can take that control away. In most circumstances it's something people can control but everyone has different metabolisms and natural body shapes that means it's more work for some than others.

                            I think Dew seems predisposed to packing on pounds pretty quick but doubt he has any medical condition given his history as a professional athlete
                            [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                            • Vred
                              Senior Player
                              • Nov 2018
                              • 1301

                              Re: Assistant Coaches

                              Another name I've heard mentioned (outside of that BF thread) that we're interested in is Jackson Kornberg, yet another Suns coach, but he is doing wonders with their VFL team this season and has a host of development experience.
                              [I][B]"Its always good to win the Ashes test match'' - Libba, AFL Grand Final, 2016[/B][/I]

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 66379

                                Re: Assistant Coaches

                                Originally posted by Sedat
                                I'm not a fan of the optics coming out of our club post-season so far.
                                mmmm - 3 days since end of season????
                                FFC: Established 1883

                                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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