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  • azabob
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 15385

    Re: Assistant Coaches

    Originally posted by G-Mo77
    Players haven't been able to run out games all year. Is he a fall guy for this trend?
    I’m thinking he left his own accord? How often does a fall guy land on his feet like Innes has?
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44942

      Re: Assistant Coaches

      Originally posted by G-Mo77
      Players haven't been able to run out games all year. Is he a fall guy for this trend?
      I don't think he was pushed in anyway, his appointment to West Coast would have taken a bit of time to get done.
      The fact we've had to train away from an elite playing surface for so long and having to make do with a temporary gym etc all played it's part with some of our struggles through the season. Prior to this year I think we were at the least competitive with other teams in terms of fitness and conditioning.

      What a great time for Mat's successor to come in with access to the new facilities so close. I would imagine it will be a sort after position.
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      • Grantysghost
        Bouncing Strong
        • Apr 2010
        • 19081

        Re: Assistant Coaches

        Or maybe we told him he wasn't getting renewed and he had time to find another gig.
        BT COME BACK!​

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        • kruder
          Coaching Staff
          • May 2011
          • 3905

          Re: Assistant Coaches

          It's interesting that WCE were going to leave no stone unturned/global search etc and came up with Matt. Congrats to him.

          I have been keen for change in this area for a few years now I hope we haven't just started looking we should be well and truly underway in locking in new fitness/coaching staff. From day 1 of preseason we want to have everything in place or will be starting on the back foot again.

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34289

            Re: Assistant Coaches

            Originally posted by kruder
            It's interesting that WCE were going to leave no stone unturned/global search etc and came up with Matt. Congrats to him.

            I have been keen for change in this area for a few years now I hope we haven't just started looking we should be well and truly underway in locking in new fitness/coaching staff. From day 1 of preseason we want to have everything in place or will be starting on the back foot again.
            I wonder if the AFEL is ready to let ‘the weapon’ back into AFEL circles. His teams ran out games better than any ones I remember. I can’t remember exactly why, but they were all, how do you say, muy bueno.
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            • 1eyedog
              Hall of Fame
              • Mar 2008
              • 13305

              Re: Assistant Coaches

              Matt definitely got the tap on the shoulder. We haven't stuck a tackle all year let's be honest. Bullet dodged 2024.
              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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              • jeemak
                Bulldog Legend
                • Oct 2010
                • 21976

                Re: Assistant Coaches

                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                Or maybe we told him he wasn't getting renewed and he had time to find another gig.
                He'd have known for months. Probably after round two of the season proper.
                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                • The bulldog tragician
                  Senior Player
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 1975

                  Re: Assistant Coaches

                  There hasn’t been much commentary on Varcoe’s departure. From the outside he appeared to be doing well in making our club more attuned to Indigenous boys. Any thoughts on why he’s left?
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                  • Vred
                    Senior Player
                    • Nov 2018
                    • 1294

                    Re: Assistant Coaches

                    Originally posted by 1eyedog
                    Matt definitely got the tap on the shoulder. We haven't stuck a tackle all year let's be honest. Bullet dodged 2024.
                    Was a very mutual separation.

                    He wanted out, Dogs wanted him out, was agreed that he'd leave at the end of the season a few weeks ago, very much a 50/50 breakup.

                    Bev's new contract that kicks off next year is on significantly less money so the football department could bring in the people needed.
                    Spang will be staying on, different role.
                    Sounds like Martin and Maddocks will also be staying on, same development roles.
                    I'm still being told that Dew is 90% over the line, and we're also working on another very-seasoned and experienced coach.
                    Clay Smith is still very much on the cards to come in at some capacity as well, he just got Point Cook into the grand final as head coach.

                    There will be a bit of a shuffling of board members, at least 2 leaving and 2 new ones being appointed.

                    The original plan of ''Bevo is the boundary line hype man and the assistants run the game from the coaching box'' that I posted about weeks ago, is still very much on the cards as our setup next year.

                    Internal review is still running, how Grant has survived it I don't know, not alot of love for him from either players or staff.

                    (this is all second hand information - as always, grain of salt)
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                    • ledge
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 14449

                      Re: Assistant Coaches

                      If that’s all true . I find two things strange about it .
                      1. Getting a suburban side in a GF doesn’t equate to being a good coach, I love Clay he definitely would know how to play the game hard but going to VFL level first or a few more years around the traps would be needed.
                      2 Grant, would he have much to do with the playing group and if this is the case about not getting on with quite a few, sounds like he is the problem and would be first gone.
                      Bring back the biff

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                      • Bullies
                        WOOF Member
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 1808

                        Re: Assistant Coaches

                        Originally posted by kruder
                        It's interesting that WCE were going to leave no stone unturned/global search etc and came up with Matt. Congrats to him.

                        I have been keen for change in this area for a few years now I hope we haven't just started looking we should be well and truly underway in locking in new fitness/coaching staff. From day 1 of preseason we want to have everything in place or will be starting on the back foot again.
                        He is good mates with Justin Langer as well and was targeted once WCE let go their fitness guy before seasons end. He is very well respected in the industry and it is good for both teams to make a new start and change it up.

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                        • MrMahatma
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 3973

                          Re: Assistant Coaches

                          Originally posted by ledge
                          .
                          1. Getting a suburban side in a GF doesn’t equate to being a good coach, I love Clay he definitely would know how to play the game hard but going to VFL level first or a few more years around the traps would be needed.
                          Lot's of guys go straight from playing to being an AFL assistant. You could argue Clay has a greater combination of coach and life experience than many of the first time assistants.

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                          • Axe Man
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 11272

                            Re: Assistant Coaches

                            Originally posted by MrMahatma
                            Lot's of guys go straight from playing to being an AFL assistant. You could argue Clay has a greater combination of coach and life experience than many of the first time assistants.
                            If he does come in I doubt it would be an AFL assistant's role anyway, more likely some sort of development role/VFL. Perhaps Varcoe's position?

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                            • mjp
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 7443

                              Re: Assistant Coaches

                              Originally posted by ledge
                              1. Getting a suburban side in a GF doesn’t equate to being a good coach.
                              It doesn't equate to NOT being a good coach either.

                              One thing about being an 'expert' in something (as Bevo is undoubtedly) - it can compromise your decision making because you have seen the worst happen so many times...when you are just beginning, you have a little more enthusiasm for trying stuff...

                              I wouldn't be against taking a chance on someone like Smith in a line role - put an experienced head around him to help with player one-on-ones, editing vision etc and go for it.

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                              • Topdog
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 7471

                                Re: Assistant Coaches

                                Originally posted by Vred
                                Was a very mutual separation.

                                He wanted out, Dogs wanted him out, was agreed that he'd leave at the end of the season a few weeks ago, very much a 50/50 breakup.
                                But the question is WHY we wanted him out

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