Always Right Match Committee Round Two v Carlton at Marvel

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  • angelopetraglia
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Nov 2008
    • 6782

    #16
    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Two v Carlton at Marvel

    Who are the possible ins?

    JUH - definitely need another target
    Wallis - has to be a chance with the limited showing of our small forwards
    Martin - would give forward time for Tim?
    O'Brien - we need a marking defender
    JJ - His speed and tricks could be handy

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    • soupman
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Nov 2007
      • 5091

      #17
      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Two v Carlton at Marvel

      It's our round 1 side from a squad that is basically fully fit, if you immediately make mass changes to what you were confident was going to produce the goods to open the season it's not an inspiring start.

      It is an awkward one as usually a lot of the squad would've earnt their spot with great pre-season form either in game or on the training track, but as far as i can tell barely anybody has really demanded selection through that manner. Add that to the fact no one on the fringe seems to be hard done by through their non selection, so who are we dropping guys for?

      As an example Vandermeer was no good, but who do we bring in? JUH who was terrible in one practice game and didn't even get a look in in another? McComb who will make zero difference and was poor in the praccy? Garcia or Scott who I don't even know if they are fit atm because the AFL/the club have released nothing more than a vague paragraph about injuries?

      We stick with this lineup for the most part and make some slight adjustments. We can bring maybe 2 players in at most off the back of no form, and instead challenge the rest to redeem themselves. It's not fun or sexy but it's logical.

      JJ will come in, that's the only thing I'm confident of.
      I should leave it alone but you're not right

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      • Bullies
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2014
        • 1807

        #18
        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Two v Carlton at Marvel

        Originally posted by angelopetraglia
        Roarke had so many terrible moments with bad turnovers. Really costly ones too. Very poor tonight.
        If Roarke is on our best 22 we are in all sorts. His skills and decision making are non existent. I guess he skates with Bevo though which may help.

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        • merantau
          Coaching Staff
          • May 2015
          • 3974

          #19
          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Two v Carlton at Marvel

          Originally posted by Bullies
          If Roarke is on our best 22 we are in all sorts. His skills and decision making are non existent. I guess he skates with Bevo though which may help.
          A bit of light-hearted cynicism never goes astray if it brings a wry smile, or a belly laugh, to the reader.

          Sadly, have to agree with you re his performance last night. His first 'disposal' was 'Nightmare on Barkly St.' And that was just the trailer for a horror show of decision making and skill errors by a number of players. Bont even seemed to drop a chest mark and he also turned the ball over.

          Roarke has been on the list a long time now. It is clear the writing is on the wall for him this year. Does he have the attributes to become a negator - mongrel and pace? I don't think so. He's a player who falls between the gaps. I don't see him appearing much this year so it will be another year of plugging a hole, binding a bare wire with 'Roarkefix', I fear.

          Vanders is another who will be looked at. He has pace and has shown aggression but hasn't got the size to do any damage with it. So, what's the point. He is prone to giving away free kicks, he doesn't get enough of the ball and he makes poor decisions. He is yet to convince me.

          Schache's signature tune should be a variation on that Stones hit: (can you hear it?) "Si - i - i - ize, is on my side. Yes it is. Si-i-i-ize is on ...) Plus he's a good kick for goal. But, once again, he's been on the list for quite a while and is yet to establish himself. But he's worth persevering with because when he's good he can be very good.

          For mine, Wally comes back into the side. He's a proven goal kicker and only needs to get 4 or 5 looks from 45 mt range and we've got a couple of goals.
          Do we miss Josh Bruce? Is the Mufti of Jerusalem a Muslim? With Bruce in the side we are a lot more of a threat in the forward half. Let's hope he has a perfect 110% recovery.
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          • Mofra
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 14868

            #20
            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Two v Carlton at Marvel

            Originally posted by Scraggers
            Schache has to go. His decision making, disposals and marking ability tonight was disgraceful. He looked like a deer in the headlights at times.
            I like Schache but his 12-point turn around in a couple of minutes (silly handball in the F50 then the missed mark in the B50) means he just has to spend a week in the magoos.
            VDM and Williams had a shocker as well, and Roarke was 'just ok' in the second half but had a mare in the first

            A lot will depend on the injury report though - I expect JJ to be fit, not sure where Duryea's at and Marra might be closer than we think as the sub.
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            • The Bulldogs Bite
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 11115

              #21
              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Two v Carlton at Marvel

              Marra has to play.

              Cordy as a key forward is pretty ridiculous, which I've stated a few times.

              Not saying Marra is ready, but we need to fast track him.
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              • westbulldog
                Senior Player
                • Sep 2009
                • 1765

                #22
                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Two v Carlton at Marvel

                Ins
                O'Brien, Ugle-Hagan, Wallis, JJ

                Outs
                Cordy, Hannan, Schache, Hunter

                ( And as an aside I would play Sweet, Khamis, Jones, Garcia and Bedendo before recycling Cordy, Schache and Hannan)

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66094

                  #23
                  Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Two v Carlton at Marvel

                  Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                  Marra has to play.

                  Cordy as a key forward is pretty ridiculous, which I've stated a few times.

                  Not saying Marra is ready, but we need to fast track him.
                  Marra would do more than Cordy up forward.

                  I am hoping O'Brien is right to go in the backline.
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                  • Mantis
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 15319

                    #24
                    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Two v Carlton at Marvel

                    Originally posted by bornadog

                    I am hoping O'Brien is right to go in the backline.
                    From the messaging coming out of the club it sounds like he will miss at least 1 more game.

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                    • soupman
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 5091

                      #25
                      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Two v Carlton at Marvel

                      Originally posted by Mantis
                      From the messaging coming out of the club it sounds like he will miss at least 1 more game.
                      And surely he has a week in the reserves seeing as he has been out for months.
                      I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                      • Scorlibo
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 3073

                        #26
                        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Two v Carlton at Marvel

                        Like everyone else, I was left shaking my head with Roarke's errors in the first quarter, but I was impressed with the way he turned it around in-game, and he does have some runs on the board from late last season.

                        Our forward line should be the subject of selection attention imo. They were given good opportunity out of the centre bounce but (with the exception of Naughton) failed to capitalise. I like what Hannan brings and he played a great second quarter, but was MIA for the remainder of the game. Vandermeer is a chaos merchant, sometimes that works in our favour, it didn't last night. Cordy had one brilliant goal-assist and brought the ball to ground on occasion but three touches of the leather is just not enough. Weightman as others have mentioned needs to do the basics much better, these all-or-nothing marking attempts where he doesn't even give himself a chance to retain his feet cannot become a regular feature of his game. You'd be loathe to drop him because he's a natural goal kicker, but another display like that and the MC are left with no choice.

                        I'm not sure who makes way out of the forwards, but I'd expect at least one change to bring Johannisen back into the team.

                        Then there's Schache who had a diabolical game playing every position on the field. Based on Bevo's comments post-match, he'll be given a second chance and perhaps given a dedicated role, which may help.

                        When O'Brien is fit he comes straight in for Gardner, who had some bizarre moments handicapping himself with unnecessarily late arrivals to aerial contests.
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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14868

                          #27
                          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Two v Carlton at Marvel

                          Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                          Marra has to play.

                          Cordy as a key forward is pretty ridiculous, which I've stated a few times.

                          Not saying Marra is ready, but we need to fast track him.
                          I think one of Cordy, Stef or Schache plays. English can't ruck solo and at least needs a chopout from someone who can at least take pressure of Naughton forward,.
                          Stef can't go back but that becomes irrelevant once TOB is fit as Gards, TOB & Keath are enough

                          The problem is Cordy is a KPP in a flanker's body, and Schache is a flanker in a KPP's body.
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                          • Vred
                            Senior Player
                            • Nov 2018
                            • 1297

                            #28
                            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Two v Carlton at Marvel

                            OUT: Schache, Hannan, Roake, VDM, Weightman, Hunter
                            In: O'Brian, JUH, Scott, Sweet, Garcia, Wallis,

                            I wish, but we'll be lucky to make 2 changes at this rate.
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                            • SonofScray
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 4214

                              #29
                              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Two v Carlton at Marvel

                              Out:
                              VDM, Schache

                              Im: JUH, Garcia
                              Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 66094

                                #30
                                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Two v Carlton at Marvel

                                Originally posted by SonofScray
                                Out:
                                VDM, Schache

                                Im: JUH, Garcia
                                Not sure how bad JJ is, but you think he might play. The other one is Steph, I wonder why he was left out.
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